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If you really thought the draft was coming..would some of you look for deferments for your eligible children?
Many talk a tough game but when push comes to shove, they don't want to send their kids.
Will the Bush twins be the first to sign up?
Because of some confusion about the relationship between the Military Draft Alert and HR 163, the so-called Rangel draft bill—which is in reality a “protest bill” with no prayer of passing, here are the differences between the RANGEL PROTEST BILL and the secretive behind-the-scenes activity at the SSS and the DoD, to ready not only a BUSH COMBAT DRAFT in 2005 but also a BUSH SKILLS DRAFT and BUSH MEDICAL DRAFT in 2006 or sooner:
RANGEL PROTEST BILL
Click here for text of HR163
Would replace current draft legislation that drafts only men for combat, retaining current exemptions such as high school and Conscientious Objector status.
Closes loopholes that allow privileged treatment for the wealthy and well-connected; no more college deferments, for example.
Drafts women for combat as well as men, ages 18–34.
Does not draft for skills, this is a combat draft only.
ACTUAL BUSH SSS ACTIVITY TOWARD A 2005 DRAFT
Only men are drafted for combat, 18–25 (current law—no Rangel bill needed)
“Groundwork being laid” (SSS Spokesman Amon) for a non-combat skills draft of men and women age 18–34. The two-year process to gear up SKILLS DRAFT started nearly two years ago, in Feb. 2003, meaning a skills draft would be ready in 2005 (a new law would be passed if Bush gets “re-selected”).
The Medical Draft registration data collection is also going to be readied for operational use in 2005 by use of work already done on the Skills Draft, and by modifying the draft registration card to include a list of medical skills. This means the Medical Draft would be ready in 2005, men and women age 20–44 (this draft, like the current combat draft for men 18-25, is already the law of the land)
The secret Issue Paper actually proposes being able to call a Skills and Medical Draft WITHOUT calling a combat draft.
The biggest difference of course is that the RANGEL PROTEST BILL will NEVER happen and the NEW BUSH DRAFT has already begun gearing up for 2005:
Timeline of activity on Skills and Medical Drafts
Feb. 11 2003—Top-level meeting between the head of the SSS and Deputy Undersecretary Abell in charge of Personnel and Readiness of the DoD on the SKILLS DRAFT. This is the meeting recorded in the unpublicized Issue Paper, revealed by a Freedom of Information Act request in May 2004. The SSS goes back to the drawing board after this meeting, encouraged enough to do some more planning.
Summer 2003—A drive begins to start filling Draft Board vacancies by asking current board members to find new ones.
Fall 2003—DoD announces critical skills shortages in linguists, computer experts and engineers. SSS Director Brodsky orders the designing of the SKILLS DRAFT procedures, the registration card, and the massive database needed to track every young American under the age of 35 AND their skills. Brodsky, who “plays” J. E. McNeil, the head of Center on Conscience & War, a Conscientious Objector support and information group, and other anti-draft leaders by calling them regularly and schmoozing them, lies to McNeil, telling her that in February of 2003 the SSS had to “justify their existence” before a hostile committee—when in reality the SSS and DoD were having the SKILLS DRAFT meeting and he himself had just started designing the new system and making it his top priority.
Sept 2003—Draft board recruitment ad goes up on the Internet.
November 2003—Draft board ad scrubbed!
Dec. 2003—Brodsky announces the Skills Draft to be the “top priority” of the SSS in newsletter and tells of rapid progress to come.
March 13, 2004—Word of Skills Draft leaks out in a SF Chronicle story—the SSS admits it and tells reporters it’s just a “planning contingency.” In an attempt to throw the press off, the SSS also says it would take 2 years to gear up and work the kinks out of a Skills Draft and that there is no funding for it. Eric Rosenberg, the reporter on the story, finds out about the Feb. 11 meeting Issue Paper and files a Freedom of Information Act request to get a copy.
May 1, 2004—An article on the Skills Draft fails to mention several key points: skills conscription would be expanded to fill labor shortages throughout the Dept of Homeland Security, which is 1/3 of the whole government, the Skills Draft can be called without a combat draft, Skills induction will take a mere 90 days of reauthorization, the SSS wanted to “promptly” change the very MISSION of the SSS, and so on. The article does, however, reveal many major points of the sweeping plan.
Sept 13, 2004—Issue Paper agenda memo of key Feb 2003 meeting posted on the Web, including this:
“while a conventional draft may never be needed, a draft of men and women possessing these critical skills may be warranted in a future crisis if too few volunteer.”
2004—MOCK DRAFT LOTTERY HELD, and SAMPLE MEDICAL EXAM REPORT ORDERS ISSUED TO MAILING LIST. Alternative Service is geared up for first time in 31 years! Papers to place Conscientious Objectors with employers are actually drawn up. SSS has been brought up to 95% operational capability, full Medical draft capability is set for 2005, and all DRAFT BOARD vacancies are to be filled by Spring 2005!
March 31, 2005—
SSS Director must report to the Congress that the entire system is primed and ready to open 2,000 draft board offices and to start inducting within 75 days: June 15, 2005.
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If you really thought the draft was coming..would some of you look for deferments for your eligible children?
Many talk a tough game but when push comes to shove, they don't want to send their kids.
Will the Bush twins be the first to sign up?
Yeah, don't count on that happening. The Republicans keep claiming that all this draft talk is a Democratic conspiracy, but yet W has outlined no plans for covering shortages in recruitment goals in the Guard and reserves.Will the Bush twins be the first to sign up?
The ing Selective Service has been in operation for decades. Get a ing clue.
That's been the law since 1980 smegma-breath.
Well no Sherlock.
Then what is your point, if you are able to point out one with your head firmly implanted in your rectum?
So tell me, if W invades Iran were is he gonna get the troops to do it? Not from the Reserves, or the National guard or even the Individual ready reserves. 600 soldiers from one Guard unit alone have failed to meet the call from W to serve in Iraq.
Personally, I don't think an invasion of Iran is in the cards. We may bomb some strategic Command and Control centers and encourage an internal revolution (already on the brink), but, I don't see American troops going into Iran anytime soon.
So tell me, how is it preferable that we wait until we are attacked again. Or did you enjoy seeing nearly 3,000 slaughtered in the continental United States on live TV? Did your boss give you the day off at work? Did you enjoy a cold beer and some snacks while you saw that go down?
The inep ude of the W adminstration not withstanding, I think there are more than adaqute safety measures now in place to protect the nation against another 911 type attack. What I want to know is, what happened to the 5000 Al-quada opperatives that were supposedly in the U.S. already planning attacks?
Could it be that 911 had nothing to do with Al-Queda, as Bin-Laden has said in the past and more to do with the PNAC plan to invade Iraq written during the Clinton administration? Could it be that a secret plan to attack U.S. targets using commercial airliners drawn up by our own intelligence agencies was finally put into action by an administration that needed justification for its invasion of a sovereign country that had nothing to do with 911, or Al-Queda, or any plan to attack the U.S. of U.S. interests?
I surprised Yonivore isn't backing Dubya on a preemptive strike against Iran.
I mean, are they not an immenent threat?
Game over.Could it be that 911 had nothing to do with Al-Queda
eh, ask the 911-families sueing the * adminstration for being complicit in the attacks if they think it's game over. Ask the CIA agents who recently came out and said that the U.S. knew much more about the planned 911 attacks before they happened if its game over. Ask the people who have examined Halliburton stock manipulation between the Aug 6 Presdential Briefing and 911 if it is game over.
Funny thing is that attacking other people doesn't prevent attacks on us. Never has, never will. That's the function of diplomacy. Oh, but you're the one who doesn't like diplomacy, right?
Well at least danny boy is back to his true conspiratorial-wacko roots.
Certainly worked on 9/11, did it not?Funny thing is that attacking other people doesn't prevent attacks on us. Never has, never will. That's the function of diplomacy. Oh, but you're the one who doesn't like diplomacy, right?
Diplomacy certainly stopped the North Koreans from developing nuclear weapons, did it not?
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you spout bull like this?Could it be that a secret plan to attack U.S. targets using commercial airliners drawn up by our own intelligence agencies was finally put into action by an administration that needed justification for its invasion of a sovereign country that had nothing to do with 911, or Al-Queda, or any plan to attack the U.S. of U.S. interests?
Since no real effort was ever made, I guess we'll never get to know.
Indeed. Thank you President Clinton.
I believe I said I was in favor of bombing the out of 'em...
Look, I'm not gonna attack you cause your new. Please do some more reading and get better informed before trying to criticize me.How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you spout bull like this?
The plan was called Operation Northwoods. In 1962, the Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed staging phony attacks to destroy U.S. property and killing Cuban refugees and U.S. citizens, in order to create a wave of indignation and rage, to justify an invasion of Cuba that could have killed hundreds of thousands of people and possibly led to nuclear war.
The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.
Yeah that's great and all, but something that may have happened 40 years ago and was rightfully rejected isn't enough to make me believe (or even consider) that Bush killed 3000 American citizens, crippled the economy, and empowered our enemies all just so he could take out Saddam. If you are going to make such damning accusations you better have some substantial and undeniable evidence (blogs by nutjob conspiracy theorists don't count). The sheer magnitude of such a conspiracy in and of itself pretty much makes it impossible, but don't let the real world stop that vivid imagination of yours.The plan was called Operation Northwoods. In 1962...
like this is why I have distanced myself more and more from the democratic party and will be voting for a republican president for the first time ever in November. There's such hate for the current adminstration that logic has gone right out the window.
When has that ever stopped you?
Yeah, realize that Nbadanallah is a conspiricist extraordinaire and go along or have every bigfoot argument since 1937 thrown at you.
UD has been around longer than danny boy. Not sure why danny thinks he is "new."
I think he was talking about BronxCowboy. Although the way he's started off, I'm thinking he can't be all that new around here.
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