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Wow. I have always liked Ben Wallace but that is bull . I would imagine that Sheed, Rip and the boys will have something to say about that.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...344/1127/rss13
How would Pop handle this, how will Flip? Personnally I would sit his *&^ one game but then again I coach kids, not pros.
I like Ben as a player and a person, including his story of be undrafted to make the pros in a huge way* (and is an under-rated near superstar) but even he should not pull this rubbish. *Similar to Bowen's story, but with 3 DOPs Wallace is the more accomplished player at least on individual accomplishments, although I like Bowen far better.
Doubt it will have a huge effect on that strong team, but interesting dynamics.
Last edited by Rummpd; 04-09-2006 at 09:46 AM.
Wow. I have always liked Ben Wallace but that is bull . I would imagine that Sheed, Rip and the boys will have something to say about that.
That's BS. I doubt Pop would stand for that, btw, he'd be in the doghouse in a second.
I'm surprised this never happened when Larry Brown was coaching. I would think that Flip would be the more easy going coach and that the players would have clashed more often with Larry. Anyways, that is very childish behavior, especially this late into the season, and especially coming from the captain of the team. Grow up. Pistons biggest asset and downfall is their passion and emotions. Sometimes playing with that kind of emotion is good for the energy of the team, but it also results in too much frustration, techs, and stupid fights like this one.
I wonder what Sheed or Rip would have said to Ben if they were at the game...
Wow. That's garbage. You refuse to re-enter the game, and your team loses by two to the Orlando Tragic? That's ed up. The guys are saying all of the right things, but like that doesn't go away. How monumentally immature, and YES I'd say the same thing about ANY Spur who did such a thing...
Sheed was there. He didn't want to go back in either.
Chemistry problems?
Wheels coming of yet another Detroit vehicle?
And Bowen i kicking his opponents in the back. Is that fair?
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Okay, but we don't know what happened. All we know is that he refuses to come back in the game and his relations with Flip are not so great. we don't know the trainings, we don't know what is going on in the locker rooms...
fatigue is proberly takin a toll on the them, arent teh pisstons starts avg +40mpg....they are leadin us by a few games, they can afford to rest.
I'll wait to hear the story from someone else before I get too pissed at Ben. McCosky is a joke. I bet there is more to the situation.
And as I recall, the last time Ben did something like this (after the Utah game) the team won 9 straight and 22 of their next 24 games.
No, Ben was actually pissed that Flip took him out.
And no, the starters average around 36 minutes each. Ben averages a whopping 0.6mpg more than Tim "Plantar Fascitis" Duncan. The minutes issue is vastly overblown. No one is even close to 40 minutes per game.
Tim didn't ask for plantar fasciitis, would never refuse to play in a game and wouldn't cop at ude with his coach. I think that Ben Wallace is a good basketball player, but he pales in comparison to Tim both on and off the court.
Everyone makes mistakes and Ben made one here, he seems to me to be a man of good character so I'll hope that he apoligized to the team and the coach. I doubt Flip's going to suspend him this late in the season, that would probably add fuel to a small fire.
Joe and Flip will do the right thing.
(Can't we all just get along)
Vaginitis was laying on his other foot, I didn't like it, but Bruce kicking (actually, it was more like a foot push) Vaginitis isn't likely to make his teammmates wonder about his commitment, or his relationship with his coach. TOTALLY different situation.
Joche said it best...I really don't think there will be a suspension. There at least should be a fine. Fine him, give the money to charity and move on. There was no excuse for what he did though.
ben is tryin to be like snaq now, whats next? "pay me"
It is.
But maybe, just maybe people are doing mistakes
(I was defending Bruce in that one btw.)
Actually, yes. Ben's a free agent this summer.ben is tryin to be like snaq now, whats next? "pay me"
Big Ben to the Spurs!
You totally ignored the only point to why I said that. The person I replied to said fatigue with those starters playing "40+ minutes" per game, and implied that the reason why he did this. I was simply pointing out that Ben only plays 0.6 minutes per game more than Tim Duncan, who is injured. People love to talk about the Pistons starters playing so many minutes, but when you look at them individually they don't play any more minutes than other all-star players play. In fact, they play less than most all-stars in the league.
Ben is mad this is a good thing look for a big game today from him.
I always liked Wallace. I can't believe he pulled a pansy bull move like that. Saunders needs to prove he has a pair and suspend him.
After we repeat, trade Nazr + Finley + rights to Scola for Big Ben.
Or, any way we could get him without giving up Tim, Tony, or Many, would be amazing.
Shut up. Ben barley ever does that, and he'll make up for it. There is no chemistry problems he was just frustrated.
wow, that sounded really odd. sounds like there is more to it, i can't believe the article was that long without the linchpin to the situation. something really had to have pissed ben off to make him do that.
Veteran. Captain. Leader.
You don't pull that crap on your team. Even if you have a beef with the coach, you don't do that to your teammates. That's selfish. That's unprofessional. That's disrespectful.
That's something Darius Miles would do.
I'm very disappointed.
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