no.
would you trade any one of the big three for him?
duncan is not getting traded either
He's too injury prone. He's becoming the NBA version of Steve McNair. He can play, even excel, while playing injured (he really impressed me with his performance vs. the Pistons last year) but the thing about racking up nagging injuries is that you never know when it's all finally going to be too much and he can't play. Obviously we've got something similar going on with Manu. But as it stands since most of our overseas projects all are big men I'd be reticent about trading any of the big three for a big.
No one, have you seen how many games he's missed these past two seasons due to injuries? And he hasn't missed just two or three games...he's missed weeks, even months after each injury. No way is he worth anyone on the Spurs.
i trade rasho+barry+draft picks+sean marks+nve expiring contract for him
O'neal is a bad bootleg immitation of Tim Duncan.
I agree that he's too injury-prone. He's also too volatile and unpredictable.
Nope, I wouldn't trade anybody we have for him.
No. Salary cap suicide.
Also, you would have to part with too much of your core - unless of course, you're talking about giving up Duncan.
Don't know if you guys recall, but a funny thing was said during last year's playoffs.
Grant Hill and Bill Walton were guest analysts in the ABC Studios during halftime of Game I of the Pacers/Pistons series.
Jermaine O'Neal was having a good game, and Grant Hill suggested that Jermaine O'Neal was the best player on the court between the 2 teams.
Bill Walton turned to Hill and said, "What? Jermaine O'Neal couldn't even crack the starting line-up in Detroit!"
Grant Hill: "Yes he could!"
Walton: "Over who?"
Grant Hill: "Rasheed!"
Walton: "Please!"
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That's the way I feel about Jermaine O'Neal. He couldn't crack the starting line-up in San Antonio. Yes, that means that I think that Nazr is better than Jermaine O'Neal.
Why? Because its not just about how many points you can put up. By the way, the problem with Jermaine is that he can't put them up when it matters most. And with Nazr, you know what you're gettin' everynight. Plus, Jermaine's childish with faux leadership.
Just trade the whole team while you are at it![]()
i just wish we had signed him a few years ago. (assuming he wasn't injury prone, which he did not seem to be back then)
In all seriousness there is nothing we could offer them outside Tim Duncan to get him. Our foreign big guys all seem to be doing well overseas so I cannot imagine the Spurs giving up the farm for JO. I must be in the minority in thinking that he could be a nice center to tag with Duncan but not at the price it would cost.
I've always considered Jermaine O'Neal a bit overrated. I don't think his game would mesh well with Tim's.
Are you kidding me for all you naysayers who would not want a potential top 10 forward/part-time center in league?
Come on, prior to this year most analysts of the NBA had him as a top 20-25 player and he is still top 30-40 at very worst.
Rights to Nazr (and or trade Rasho), Beno and Barry, drafts choices for whenever and don't look back. A Duncan, Manu, J'Oneil and Parker, Bowen lineup on paper with Finley and Horry mentoring a young Scola or our Lith Center (blanking on name) could not be stopped.
J O'Neal under the right coach and healthy could one day be a top 10 player in the NBA period.
If Amare is assumed to come back at say 85% give me the risk of J. O'Neal over even Stoudemire in the West. He could cover anyone like Dirk, Brand, Stoudemire, Odom, and Garnett better than any big we have other than a fully healthy Duncan.
Come on be serious - Indiana says maybe = get it done!
This guy has the potential to be night in and night out what Robinson was in his later years but with better health (i.e. not the same leadership) but same sort of skills with the potential of on some nights bringing David Robinson defense + a healthy TD on offense. He could easily be a 17/11/3 block player without breaking a sweat.
Ask yourself would you want this guy on any other contender this year like the Mavs, or the Lakers or the Suns = would scare the *&^% of out of me for the Spurs future.
Last edited by Rummpd; 04-11-2006 at 02:47 PM.
Well, let's not go overboard.
I'm not a fan of JO'N's game either. There's no reason for someone with his game to be a 46% shooter. The problem is he's really not a #1 player, more like a 1A. But alongside Duncan, if he were willing to accept the #2 role, he'd be a monster.
Marks
More importantly than his offense, which again for his naysayers is arguebly top 5 big man in the paint in the league, is his defense.
Again, I would trade anyone except the big three and Bowen for him + future draft choices.
Instantly, Spurs younger and better.
04-05 IND 44 41 34.8 .452 .167 .754 1.9 6.9 8.8 1.9 .57 2.00 2.98 3.90 24.3
Look at him in a part-time and injured role last year! 24/9/3 and he hits his FTs. I rest my case.
I would consider trading either Manu or Parker if Granger came back in the deal. The chance to get size and defense would be too much to give up = once in a lifetime to get another top 10 big men in the league to play next to Duncan and might extend his career.
Last edited by Rummpd; 04-11-2006 at 03:04 PM.
I'd trade Rasheed Wallace and a number one pick.
That's a of a lot.
J O'Neal career high suggest an unreal amount of talent.
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