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6
32
Most definitely retire those.
We all know that 00, 13, 44 and 50 hang from the rafters in the SBC Center.
Two years ago, a stink was raised when the Spurs tried to give number 6 to Gino and Don Harris raised a big, rotten stink over giving away "AJ's" number.
What numbers are "sacred" and should not be handed out to new additions to the roster, no matter how good the player may be and the legacy that follows them?
Should the Spurs continue to avoid giving out 6 or 32? Are any other numbers untouchable?
(Please do not say Stephen Jackson's number 3 in sacred, Jack-stalkers)
6
32
Most definitely retire those.
21, 6 and 32.
Trivia: What number did AJ wear besides 6 while he was a Spur?
15
That's right. AJ wore number 15 his first two seasons in Seattle and also with Denver. When AJ came to SA, 91-92 season, AJ spent part of that season with SA and wore 15.
Actually, I sort of expected Whottt to come in and suggest 2!
The day is young.Actually, I sort of expected Whottt to come in and suggest 2!
wasn't that vinny's number?
I'd retire TC's number (34?). He had a great career in SA.
AJ had it first.
AJ had it then he left, Vinny came in grabbed it, AJ came back and got 6 1+5=6.
to me, 21, 6, 32, 34(Mitc and mings), and 53.
Idiotic - mings didnt have a great career in SA - he had a few good years in SA.
I think retiring numbers just to retire them is poor. Elliott and AJ were staples in SA, and very popular, but I dont think either were the type of player to retire their number. Elliott was an all-star maybe twice? AJ never was. AJ was a great role player, and was very important to the community, but I dont think he deserves to have his number retired. He got his treat when we paid him in his last season with us.
This isn't the Basketball HOF. It is about those players who had a long term impact on the franchise. I forget where AJ stands on the franchise list for all-time total assists but I'm sure he is at or near the top. He was clearly an important figure for the Spurs in the 1990s, as was Elliott.
mings did not have the longevity with the Spurs that AJ and Elliott did to warrant such a distinction.
Last edited by Marcus Bryant; 10-04-2004 at 01:03 PM.
neither on of those players deserve it
Wny not AJ and Sean, Ducks?
AJ got his butt kicked on a regular basis by KJ, Hardaway, Stockton, Payton and for that he should go down in Spurs' lore.
You don't have to be an hall of fame but it would be nice if you were a little above average.
Last edited by picnroll; 10-04-2004 at 02:00 PM.
The Spurs have retired more than just Gervin and DRob's numbers. Thus, HOF membership or likely HOF membership is not the standard to apply here.
AJ was certainly one of the franchise's all-time assist men, if not the top. To claim that he was an average point guard is absurd.
The Tim Derk/Coyote's number, the sooner the better.
Talk about "having an impact on the Franchise" !!
Hanging AJ's number is a reflection of how patheticly the PG position has been filled over the years for the Spurs. Ninety percent of the NBA franchises can lay claim to a far superior PG in their history. some can lay claim to three or four better ones. Hopefully will have a PG jersey worthy of hanging from the rafters one day, no. 9.
And Moore was a sentimetal choice because of a career sadly cut short. But given time he may have fufilled the play deserving the honor.
Like I said I remember AJ most for getting his ass kicked by the Hardaways, Stocktons and Kevin Johnsons as the Spurs were prematurely knocked out of the playoffs.
AJ was one of the top point guards in the league in the 1990s.
DRob got his ass handed to him in the playoffs by Barkley, Malone and Hakeem. Should his number be retired?
Defensively, Avery was a liability. Offensively, he was a decent distributor and handler, but he wasn't ever near all-star status. He had over 8APG twice in his career (and started 600 games in his career.)
Career:
25 MPG
5.5 APG
8.4 PPG
1 SPG
He was a very good role player. In our good years, he was our weakest link on offense and defense.
AJ's stats
For such an awful role player he certainly produced with the Spurs from 1994-2000 when he was the starting point. Career stats are not going to reflect what he was when he was with the Spurs.
Nevermind being the team leader and the most compe ive Spur.
AJ was one of the top point guards in the league in the 1990s.Well without Avery Robinson never could have gotten as many blocks as he did. I'll give him that.
Half of the retired jerseys belonged to PGs.
True, Moore's career was cut short, as was Si's with his knee problems.
Moore was the all-time Spurs career assist leader with 3,865 and only Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas recorded more assists than Moore did from 1981-1985.
A retired number should be for outstanding play and being a good community person. Otherwise you cheapen the award. There's a tendency to err on the community side (Gervin though he's become a great spokesperson for the Spurs, SA and the NBA). Robertson you could make a case on play but he blew it on the community side. AJ was a nice guy, good community person, a team leader as the PG should be but he was no where close to an outstanding player. Putting up jersey's of mediocre players is like saying "hey we're a mediocre franchise and this is the best we can do".
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