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Kobe fifth?!?! I think it`s pretty tied between these guys, but Kobe is at least among three, if not the MVP.
The only thing worth noting is this:
"the Star-Telegram conducted an informal survey of approximately a third of the eligible MVP voters. According to the results, Mavs forward Dirk Nowitzki is running a close second to Phoenix point guard Steve Nash, the reigning MVP, with Cleveland's LeBron James third, Detroit's Chauncey Billups fourth and the LA Lakers' Kobe Bryant fifth. In our survey of media members with a vote for NBA Coach of the Year, more than 66 percent have Mavs coach Avery Johnson as the front-runner."
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/14356202.htm
Kobe fifth?!?! I think it`s pretty tied between these guys, but Kobe is at least among three, if not the MVP.
I have no idea what area of the country the 1/3 of the voters were from...take it for what it's worth. It's informal, but at least it's based on feedback from the actual voters, and not somebody's opinion...
kobe should be MVP the same way that pneumonia should be declared a cure for cancer.
If Kobe didn't score 81, would people still be talking about him? Yeah, I thought so.
look at this here, remember the season where kobe shot +30pts for around 11 straight games, that season he didnt win mvp, this season is goin to be no different. Nash says his not in the runnin for mvp this year, i agree with his statement.
You`ve got to be kidding me. He`s carried his team in to the playoffs all by himself and he isn`t even worth talking about? He would be talked about even if he hadn`t scored 81. Without him the Lakers would be a lottery team. You`re blind or a hater or both if you don`t see that.
with or without kobe they are lottery bound, no doubt about it.
would it make u happy u get mvp and get sweep by the spurs first round ?
Lakers have the 7th seed in the tough Western Conference and have won 45 games with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker as their starters. Why? Kobe Bryant. And it's not just about that 81 point performance, which I'll admit helps his cause. But honestly, when you look back at this season 10 years from now...which player will you be talking about and remember the most?
Dirk has a 60 win season playing with Jerry Stackhouse. I repeat - Jerry Stackhouse.
He has been the leader of a team that has blown-out both the Spurs and the Pistons.
Impeccable.
He should win it. But some people are so enamoured with Mr. Nash.
Tough break for the German.
^I'm denying that I think Dirk should win it. He's managed to lead the Mavs to 60 wins, which is huge. Until a few months ago, my pick for MVP was still Nash. But they've gone downhill a lot since then, but he still deserves serious consideration. Did you watch the Lakers vs Suns game yesterday? For anyone who said that Marion was the MVP needed to watch that game. Suns were hopeless without Nash, their game looked completely different out there. The only thing against Nash is, Does he really deserve to go down in history as one of the few players to win back to back MVP's? Not so sure he's that good.
nash didnt even have a good reason to sit out that game, he was just restin for the playoffs. i wouldnt give mvp to a player who sits out of games
Suns have already clinched the #2 playoff spot. And Nash does have a thigh contusion, so it's not like his injury is completely bogus. Why wouldn't he rest up for the playoffs if he could??
it basically goes to the constant problem with the mvp award as to how you define it. if you're looking at simply what player is the most valuable to their team, then sure, it would be idiocy not to consider kobe. but that's not traditionally how the award has been determined. voters have generally considered it more as who is the mvp of the teams that are actually good. by that rationale, kobe doesn't qualify because the lakers are god awful.
Bell was out that game as well. Nash is NOT the MVP. He isn't even a top 5 player.
Dirk
+ great player, pretty damn clutch. Has meant everything to his team leading them thru a tremendous season.
- not a good defender. regularly has smaller players guard him with success.
LeBron
+ everything. Name it, hes good to great at it. Very capable defender.
- not so willing to take the game winner. recently debunked some of those criticisms, but...
Billups
+ pure point guard. Outstanding assist/turnover ratio. Very very clutch. Above average shooter. Good defender.
- Enamored with the 3-ball (although he shoots it well). Sometimes takes shot out of rythym of offense. Really, there isnt too much to criticize about his game, but for fairness sake, thats all I could come up with
Kobe
+Everything. Shooter, passer, defender...name it...hes most likely above-average to awesome at it.
- Selfish sometimes. Doesnt involve his teammates as much as he should. Buuuuuuut, thats about it.
Nash
+ excellent offensive instincts. Excellent shooter. Involves his teammates perfectly.
- couldnt play defense on a 2nd string HS point guard. Prone to turnovers due to reckless passes. Very one-dimensional player, although he is great at that one dimension.
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This was in no particular order btw. I just thought I would list MY strengths and weaknesses of each.
Just so I dont come off as too homer-ish, about Chauncey.... He really doesnt have a single hole in his game. He is above-average at everything for his position. the knock though is just that...he isnt "OMGWTFCRZY" at any one thing. He is a tactician, imo. A perfect point guard. I would trade him for no one. But, that doesnt make him the MVP of the league.
Last edited by DarkReign; 04-17-2006 at 04:06 PM.
Nash IS the MVP, at least untill they name another one.
Good thing it isn't the best player award then.He isn't even a top 5 player.
You say Nash is just an above average shooter? He is one of the best jump shooters in the league. He just doesnt have to shoot a lot. Even when he was with the Mavs, he always beat Dirk in shooting contests, and quite a few people consider Dirk to be the best shooter in the NBA.Dirk
+ great player, pretty damn clutch. Has meant everything to his team leading them thru a tremendous season.
- not a good defender. regularly has smaller players guard him with success.
LeBron
+ everything. Name it, hes good to great at it. Very capable defender.
- not so willing to take the game winner. recently debunked some of those criticisms, but...
Billups
+ pure point guard. Outstanding assist/turnover ratio. Very very clutch. Above average shooter. Good defender.
- Enamored with the 3-ball (although he shoots it well). Sometimes takes shot out of rythym of offense. Really, there isnt too much to criticize about his game, but for fairness sake, thats all I could come up with
Kobe
+Everything. Shooter, passer, defender...name it...hes most likely above-average to awesome at it.
- Selfish sometimes. Doesnt involve his teammates as much as he should. Buuuuuuut, thats about it.
Nash
+ excellent offensive instincts. Above average shooter. Involves his teammates perfectly.
- couldnt play defense on a 2nd string HS point guard. Prone to turnovers due to reckless passes. Very one-dimensional player, although he is great at that one dimension.
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This was in no particular order btw. I just thought I would list MY strengths and weaknesses of each.
Just so I dont come off as too homer-ish, about Chauncey.... He really doesnt have a single hole in his game. He is above-average at everything for his position. the knock though is just that...he isnt "OMGWTFCRZY" at any one thing. He is a tactician, imo. A perfect point guard. I would trade him for no one. But, that doesnt make him the MVP of the league.
Last edited by v2000; 04-17-2006 at 03:08 PM.
I am really tired about hearing this BS about how you should get your team involved or be on one of the top teams to get the award. MVP means MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. If that's how it's going to work, the they should change it to top team-teammates better-good player award. If the fakers didn't have KOBE they'd be and losing to the get a good lottery spot right now. They are in the 7th spot people. That in my eyes is a miracle.
He has a defining moment that other MVP candidate don't. HE SCORED 81 POINTS. He leads the league in scoring with 35+ points a game. You can argue that he is selfish but he has help kwame in a decent player nowadays. Never thought I'd say kwame was good. What I am saying is, you can't deviate from the definition of mvp. Value to your team is number one above all. I am not a big kobe fan, but kobe should get the award. I think everyone's hate for kobe is making them oblivious to kobe's stand as the true MVP.
If he doesn't, someone please change the definition of MVP
yup they would.
Agree, Kobe is the guy who deserves to be MVP.
If he scores 3 points against Hornets, it will be the second time since 1968 that a player score more than 35 ppg (Jordan did it only one time in 1987). Kobe's other stats are quite good too, he has scored 81 points in one game and Lakers will make the playoff.
Whooooooa.....calm down.
If I had to choose an MVP it would probably be Kobe or Dirk. I am nto a voter and I dont have League Pass.
He is selfish. But you are right, the Lakers would be the doormat of the league if it werent for Kobe. On the other hand, the Lakers wouldnt have Smush Parker at starting point guard if Kobe wasnt there.
Whichever way you want to go. I could care less.
Fine. Correction. Excellent shooter.
When Jordan did it, he did not get MVP.
Edit, forgot to add the link, it is an interesting article from the LA TimesBryant's 35-points-per-game season, in which he has six 50-point games, evokes comparisons to Michael Jordan's 1986-87 season, when Jordan hit the 50 mark eight times and averaged 37.1 points per game. But the Bulls had a 40-42 record that season and Magic Johnson won the MVP award by averaging 23.9 points, 12.2 assists and 6.3 rebounds while leading the Lakers to a 65-17 record.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...rts-nba-lakers
If they didn't have Kobe, they'd still have Shaq , and probably a higher seed.
I'm just sayin'....
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