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    Ms. Horry missmyzte's Avatar
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    Wow, I think I get it now. I thought I'd find a Kings forum to talk some hoops and talk some smack, I logged onto KingsFans.com and found the fans there to be extremely welcoming and nice. Too nice, I feared.

    Turns out I was correct.

    Exhibit A: The thread
    Play Like The All-Star You Are!

    To Brad Miller:

    If a Spur is consistantly dunking in the paint and you only have 1 foul; feel free to use another.

    There will be no layups in the playoffs. You are 7ft tall. Take notes from SAR and dunk when you're around the basket.

    We all know you're big and slow, but you will notice an improvement in your defense if you dont stand straight up while trying to guard someone.

    I like your game Brad Miller. You set nice/hard picks, you can knock down any shot and you're a pretty good free throw shooter. You're rebounding and shotblocking will be very critical in this series. We need you.
    http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...69&postcount=1


    Exhibit B: My response (sorry RashoFan!)
    I couldn't help but think that this could also apply to Rasho Nesterovic. Here's I'll just edit a couple things and then it will go for Rasho:

    To Rasho Nesterovic:

    If a King is consistantly dunking in the paint and you only have 1 foul; feel free to use another.

    There will be no layups or fairy floaters in the playoffs. You are 7ft tall. Take notes from SAR and dunk when you're around the basket.

    We all know you're big and slow, but you will notice an improvement in your defense if you don't stand straight up while trying to guard someone.

    I like your game Rasho. You set nice/hard picks, you can knock down a good mid-range jumper though you're an awful free throw shooter. Your rebounding and shotblocking will be very critical in this series. We need you.
    http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...13&postcount=9

    That was extremely tongue-in-cheek, I thought it was pretty damn funny.


    Exhibit C: The reply in the thread by a mod
    To MistiLynn: The name of the board is KINGSFANS.com. Please keep that in mind. We are tolerant but enough is enough...

    Thank you.
    http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...5&postcount=14


    Exhibit D: The PM I just received
    This is a KINGS board. It is not a general NBA board; it is not a Spurs board.

    We have welcomed you. In return, we expect - dare I say demand - that you respect our right to discuss our team on our board without the injection of the opposing side of view. It's not a debate. The opposition isn't en led to equal time.

    You've notived by now that this board is a lot more civil than the majority of message boards you'll find around. That's because, quite honestly, we run a tight ship.

    If you're going to post comments in support of the Spurs, then you need to find a Spurs board upon which to do it. The Memo to Rasho was not appropriate. We aren't on a Spurs board hyping our players; in return, we expect that Spurs fans who come here don't hype theirs.

    Thank you for understanding.

    VF21
    Moderator
    -----------------------

    My favorite part I put in bold above (from the PM).
    Classic!

    Now I see why they seem so nice, no one is allowed to actually have an opinion or original thought!


    Feel free to check it out yourself but I do warn you, don't say anything that might spark a debate and cause people to actually think.

  2. #2
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    funny if you go to
    http://www.kingsfans.com/ they pick the spurs to win the series though
    Round 1 Preview
    Written by Mr. S£im Citrus
    Thursday, 20 April 2006
    (1) San Antonio Spurs versus (8) Sacramento Kings

    Two teams that are no strangers to the playoffs will face each other in the postseason for the very first time, as the San Antonio Spurs will begin their quest for a fourth NBA Championship when they face the Sacramento Kings in the first round of the playoffs. San Antonio (63-19) is competing in the playoffs for the ninth consecutive season. They have home court advantage in the first round of the playoffs for the ninth consecutive season. Sacramento (44-38) is competing in the playoffs for the eighth consecutive season. They are opening the playoffs on the road for the second consecutive season.

    COMPARISON

    GUARDS: Sacramento’s starting guards and San Antonio’s starting guards are fairly evenly matched: their starting point guards, Mike Bibby and Tony Parker, respectively, have remarkably similar numbers, for the most part, with Parker shooting a higher percentage from two-point range, and Bibby shooting a higher percentage from all other aspects. While Bibby is effective at getting into the lane to score or create opportunities for his teammates, the advantage in this aspect goes to Parker, who is perhaps the most proficient in the NBA at scoring in the paint from the guard position, whereas Bibby is much more dangerous from eighteen feet and beyond than Parker. Neither player is particularly threatening defensively, but Parker appears to be a slightly better team defender.



    The starting shooting guards for each team are just as similarly matched: Manu Ginobili and Bonzi Wells both spent considerable portions of the regular season plagued by injuries, with Ginobili missing eighteen games and Wells missing thirty. While neither man is primarily considered a perimeter threat, Ginobili is much more comfortable outside, shooting a substantially higher percentage from the three-point line. Both players are perhaps better known for inside scoring, but they score in very different ways, with Ginobili using his quickness to beat defenders off the dribble, while Wells uses his strength to score inside. Both men are solid defensively, and their defensive strengths reflect their offensive strengths: Ginobili is a good perimeter defender, who is effective at denying penetration, whereas Wells is better at defending inside the paint. Wells is also a far superior rebounder.

    Advantage: Push

    Forwards: Two of the best man-to-man defenders in the league are matched up against each other at the small forward position. But, while Bruce Bowen and Ron Artest are both excellent defensively, Artest is clearly a more complete player offensively, and can score from inside and outside. Artest is most effective offensively when isolated against a defender down in the post, whereas Bowen’s primary contribution offensively is to capitalize on scoring opportunities created by his teammates, particularly Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. However, Artest’s superior offensive abilities occasionally works to the detriment of his team, as he has been known to disrupt the team’s offense with his at-times single-minded determination to score, whereas Bowen is the consummate teammate offensively, and will never disrupt his team’s offensive flow to get his own shot. Both men are intense defensively, and are highly effective at disrupting their defensive assignment without excessive fouling. Bowen is often of singular focus on defense, and will follow his defensive assignment wherever he goes, whereas Artest is a better help defender, who is highly effective at forcing steals. Artest is also a slightly better rebounder.

    Tim Duncan set career lows in scoring, rebounding, blocked shots and field goal percentage this season, while playing through injuries. Nevertheless, he has a clear advantage over Kenny Thomas. Offensively, Duncan will be able to post up over the much shorter Thomas and score without impediment, and he will also be able to score easily outside the paint, where Thomas will not be able to prevent him from using his trademark bank shot. Thomas’ sole advantage will be in his ability to beat Duncan off the dribble, but even that may be negated by Duncan’s superior reach. Defensively, Duncan is a far superior rebounder and shot blocker, and will often dissuade offensive players from attacking the basket, whereas Thomas is largely ineffective at denying penetration inside the lane, or at blocking shots.

    Advantage: Spurs


    Centers: Neither Nazr Mohammed nor Brad Miller are particularly good rebounders at the center position, but Miller has a slight strength advantage, and averages a few more rebounds than his counterpart. Miller is far superior offensively, and has a range that extends out to the three-point line. He is also better at creating opportunites for his teammates, and is highly effective at passing out of the high post. Mohammed is rarely considered to be a scoring option, and usually scores only within the flow of the Spurs’ offense. Defensively, neither man is particularly effective at denying post position, but Mohammed’s athleticism makes him a better weak-side shot blocker.

    Advantage: Kings


    Bench: The strength of San Antonio’s bench is in their back court, as they are three deep at every position, including experienced veterans Nick Van Exel, Michael Finley and Brent Barry, all of whom have had big moments in the postseason. Their reserve frontcourt is much less imposing, consisting primarily of former starter Rasho Nesterovic and playoff legend Robert Horry. The two most dangerous players on San Antonio’s bench are clearly Horry and Van Exel, whose respective career postseason scoring averages exceed their career regular season scoring averages, and always seem to be able to make the big play in a timely manner come playoff time.

    Sacramento’s reserves, by comparison, have virtually no playoff experience. In fact, Sacramento’s key reserves, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia will all be making their first playoff appearances. In fact, only Jason Hart, the seldom-used Corliss Williamson and the unused Vitaly Potapenko have any kind of playoff experience off the Kings bench.

    Advantage: Spurs


    Coaching: On paper, this matchup would appear to favor San Antonio, as Gregg Popovich (518-252, 69-41 postseason) is highly effective at motivating his team to play aggressive defense, and likes to control offensive possessions. Rick Adelman (752-481, 68-64 postseason), however, has historically been able to motivate the Kings to put forth a maximum effort in the playoffs; only twice in eight seasons have the Kings failed to force a series-deciding game in being eliminated from the playoffs, whereas the Spurs have only played in a series-deciding game twice in their last twenty-two playoff series. Under Adelman’s leadership, the Kings have been an effective offensive team, and have played defense with an intensity that exceeds their perceived limitations. However, Popovich is a meticulous game-planner, and is much better at getting his team to establish the tempo of the game.

    Advantage: Spurs


    Intangibles: The Kings have no pressure on them, and will very likely play free and loose, compared to the Spurs, who are expected to at least return to the Finals. Since the acquisition of Ron Artest, they play with an intensity that San Antonio has had little opportunity to play against. However, the Spurs are a vastly more experienced team, and are not likely to suc b to the pressure of the playoffs, at least not in the opening round. The Kings are also a poor road team, and home court advantage could very well be the deciding factor in this matchup.

    Advantage: Spurs

    Prediction: Spurs in 7

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    That is the weakest thing I have ever read! Apparentyl since the guvernator rulz there thinking is frowned upon

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    Ms. Horry missmyzte's Avatar
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    That is the weakest thing I have ever read! Apparentyl since the guvernator rulz there thinking is frowned upon
    Hey now, I'm from Cali too! It's just a few freaks in Northern Cali that can't think for themselves.

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    Slovenian Master Slomo's Avatar
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    Hey now, I'm from Cali too! It's just a few freaks in Northern Cali that can't think for themselves.
    I know

    but I was refering to Sacramento - isn't that where his office is?

  6. #6
    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    It's the Stepford Wives of NBA boards.

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    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
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    That board must be run out of Modesto.

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    Ms. Horry missmyzte's Avatar
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    Okay, I'm having fun now ---
    I wrote back in PM:
    The 'Memo to Rasho' was extremely tongue-in-cheek, it was mocking Rasho more than it was supporting him. I was just making a joke. Apparently it wasn't funny.

    For the record, a little debating can be healthy and enjoyable. The world is filled with people with opposing points of view, when such varying points of view are shared in a civil and intelligent manner, it can be quite fun.
    She replied:

    Based on the comments I received from a couple of members, they simply didn't get it and weren't particularly amused. I don't blame them...

    Excuse me?

    I do not need nor do I appreciate a lecture from you, a VISITOR to our site, on debates or anything else for that matter.

    This is a website dedicated to the SACRAMENTO KINGS. I am going to make sure that is made abundantly clear to anyone who is NOT a Sacramento Kings fan.

    We have had a number of extremely harrowing experiences with Laker fans in the past. And we have developed, over the years, a method of ensuring that our board maintains a place where Kings fans can come to talk about their team and whatever else strikes their fancy.

    There are other boards around dedicated to basketball in general and the promotion of everything ranging from lively debate to flamefests. You might consider finding one of them.

    I do not appreciate being talked down to or patronized. It does not sit well with me in any way whatsoever. I suggest you ask hoopsfan about it.

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    Since 1979 Das Texan's Avatar
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    that is some great stuff.

    seems like kings fans have their panties in a wad.


    you should invite them to come post over here for a spell.

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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    VF21 is someone who is not going to do well in life.

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    Ms. Horry missmyzte's Avatar
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    you should invite them to come post over here for a spell.
    I don't think they could handle it

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    Senior Member RON ARTEST's Avatar
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    VF21 is someone who is not going to do well in life.
    i know i hate her. if you have a different oppinion then that she will ban you right away.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Okay, I'm having fun now ---
    I wrote back in PM:


    She replied:
    They are still in PTSD from the Lakers. That is ing awesome, and completely typical IMHO. I have a newfound respect for the Kings fans with the balls to come here, even though many are probably just trolls.

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    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    Modesto's wife?

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    "extremely harrowing experience" with Lakers fan? WTF? It's a message board. If the Lakers fan found out where they lived an stalked them, that is extremely harrowing. A few Lakers trolls in a message board is a minor annoyance at best. That person needs to get a grip.

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    Ms. Horry missmyzte's Avatar
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    http://www.frappr.com/kingsfans

    Wait until they discover that I put a picture on their Frappr page of me with Horry and en led it "Horry ... for 3!"

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    http://www.frappr.com/kingsfans

    Wait until they discover that I put a picture on their Frappr page of me with Horry and en led it "Horry ... for 3!"
    Do you think the mere mention of the word "Horry" makes them soil themselves?

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    Wow, I can't believe they take the forum so seriously over there. I mean, I understand not wanting trolls on the forum, but "I don't appreciate being talked down to" and "objection from the opposing side view" is not allowed? Well to each her own.

    This is my first and only "forum" that I have ever visited. I can't believe I have over 5000 posts....I never even used to go to those online "Chatrooms" before this forum. Makes me really appreciate what a nice site this is.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    That is the weakest thing I have ever read! Apparentyl since the guvernator rulz there thinking is frowned upon
    Someone in Sacramento says that they don't allow opposing viewpoints, and you think it's the one conservative that's the reason for it?

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    Gonna see how long it takes me to get banned over there, just for fun...

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Gonna see how long it takes me to get banned over there, just for fun...
    I wonder if they will delete all of your posts, too.

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    Lmao, I think missmyzte might have gotten things stirred up over there. There now seems to be a post from the moderator dictating how Spurs fans are supposed to behave. As follows:




    Welcome to Spurs fans.

    We expect to get a number of you here to share in the excitement of the playoffs. That's great and we welcome each and every one of you...with a proviso.

    This is a moderated forum and we maintain an aura of respect for each other at all times. We do not condone or allow personal attacks, belittling comments, profanity, flame fests, or anything else that only serves to the detriment of the discussion of the game we love.

    Please read the tips above. We don't mind the occasional input as our respective teams get ready to square off in Round 1. But please keep in mind - this is a KINGS board. We don't really need to have the Spurs fan counterargument to every point we make. We're here to talk with fellow Kings fans about our team and their chances in the playoffs.

    If you follow the rules, you'll do fine. If not you will most likely find yourself looking for another Kings board to haunt.

    Now, let's get ready for some playoff basketball!!!

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    I wonder if they will delete all of your posts, too.
    I would expect so... I'll copy them and share what remarkable things they have to say, if anything. Maybe they'll ignore me in the hopes I'll go away. You guys know it, I never go away

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    PhillyGirl 1Parker1's Avatar
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    This is a moderated forum and we maintain an aura of respect for each other at all times. We do not condone or allow personal attacks, belittling comments, profanity, flame fests.
    Damn, but that's the fun parts!

    Here at Spurstalk, we have all those bases covered:

    Personal Attacks: Usually directed to T_Park
    Belittling Comments: Usually directed to Sequ ()
    Profanity: Usually used by AHF and Alvarez
    Flame Fests: Not sure what that is...but my interpretation has Shoogarbear and Spurswoman condoning such threads

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    Damn, but that's the fun parts!
    No kidding. That's why I love you guys. Btw, just waiting for my email telling me how to activate my account....

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