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im a huge artest fan but that elbow to manu was clearly retaliation. i hope he doesnt get suspended. if he does can you say 2-0?
Spurs-Kings notebook: Artest's hard foul under league review
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...k.140a421.html
Web Posted: 04/24/2006 12:00 AM CDT
Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer
The NBA is reviewing whether Ron Artest's foul on Manu Ginobili in Saturday's game warrants being upgraded to a flagrant violation, a league official said Sunday.
Artest hit Ginobili in the side of the face with his forearm early in the third quarter of the Spurs' 122-88 victory. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich immediately complained to the officials that Artest deserved a flagrant foul.
If the foul is upgraded to a flagrant 1 penalty, Artest could receive a small fine, if that. In the less likely event the league decided to change it to a flagrant 2 foul, Artest could be suspended for Tuesday's game.
When deciding whether to reclassify a foul or levy a fine and/or suspension, the NBA weighs: the severity of the foul; whether the foul led to an altercation; and the level of the injury sustained by the player who was fouled. Given that Ginobili wasn't seriously injured, it seems unlikely Artest would be given a flagrant 2 penalty.
Players are allowed to ac ulate three flagrant points during the playoffs. Their fourth and subsequent points bring an automatic ejection.
Artest, who also hit Tim Duncan in the back of the head on one trip down the floor, took his share of punishment. On the game's opening possession, Ginobili elbowed him in the face while chasing the ball.
Artest needed three s ches to close the cut on his lip. He declined to talk to reporters Sunday for the second day in a row, citing the injury.
Different approaches: While Popovich gave the Spurs Sunday off, Sacramento coach Rick Adelman put his team through a two-hour film session followed by an hour-long practice.
Adelman thought it was important the Kings see the mistakes they made Saturday on film.
"We were very explicit with what went on," Adelman said. "They're the world champs, and they turned it up a notch — a big notch.
"You either respond to that or you don't ... I think they'll respond."
The Spurs will practice this afternoon.
No apologies necessary: If the Kings took offense to Nazr Mohammed's insult-on-top-of-injury 3-pointer in the closing seconds of Saturday's loss, they weren't letting on about it.
After Mohammed made the 3-pointer, the second of his career, he received a lengthy tongue-lashing from Popovich, who didn't want to give the Kings any reason to feel disrespected.
But Sacramento guard Mike Bibby said Mohammed's shot was understandable because the shot clock was winding down, and other Kings said they had bigger things to worry about than a garbage-time basket.
"The 30 points they beat us by was disrespectful," forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim "I'm more concerned with that than (Mohammed) hitting the 3."
Simply stated: It didn't take a genius for the Kings to determine why they were outrebounded badly in Game1 and what it will take to turn things around in Game2.
"We just have to rebound harder," starting guard Bonzi Wells said. "That's it. We've got to go get them. We thought somebody else was going to get them in the first game."
im a huge artest fan but that elbow to manu was clearly retaliation. i hope he doesnt get suspended. if he does can you say 2-0?
Na just playoff bumping.
Eh, let him play. Manu is a warrior.
he won't get anything but I think the league will be watching it closely
yeah hes an underated player in my mind.
very closely.
I believe because of that hit by Artest, Manu was unable to speak to the media after the game and had they practiced today he also would not have been able to speak.
Manu's a relief from the usual whining NBA es. He tried to downplay Artest's swipe and said it wasn't intentional and that he didn't feel anything.Eh, let him play. Manu is a warrior.
I hardly see this guy complain and he's taken a lot of unnecessary hard fouls.
I know, I mean why can't he just sack it up like Ron who talked to the media even though he almost had to be ruished to ER with that busted lip.
Where'd you hear that? Are you confusing that with Artest? I saw a couple post game interviews from manu yesterday.
oh oops, nevermind.
Last edited by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz; 04-24-2006 at 01:38 AM.
As you can see, it's purely incidental
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 04-24-2006 at 01:29 AM.
Was this supposed to be a joke?
Manu spoke to the media after the game and even talked about the elbows. The video of the interview is up on SpursZONE.com.
http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/manu_060422.wma
There is Manu's postgame audio. Listen to hear what he says about it. I love how he plays dumb.
Pop said he had no problem with how Artest played (in regards to the hard fouls/elbows). It's odd to me that the league is even reviewing it. Stuff like that happens to Manu all the time.
Yes, making fun of Artest.Was this supposed to be a joke?
He sure didn't seem to not have a problem with it when he was yelling at the refs about the elbow.
It does look like Artest stuck his elbow out and just looked away, but It also looks like Manu's head moved back before he even came in contact with Ron's elbow.
So... i dont know.
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 04-24-2006 at 01:30 AM.
I didn't see it live, but it doesn't look like much...
Don't let Artest's "look away" fool you. that was planned He saw manu getting around miller look straight him coming around , then intentionally looked away for the cameras, then jutted the forearm forward for no reason. Then looks back at his little piece of work, Funny guy...It's too obvious. There was no ball there to go after, like Manu's elbow. Ive watched enough NBA games with Malone, these NBA players are sneaky. That was clearly Artest retaliating.It does look like Artest stuck his elbow out and just looked away, but It also looks like Manu's head moved back before he even came in contact with Ron's elbow.
So... i dont know.
Last edited by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz; 04-24-2006 at 01:20 AM.
It looks like he got him with a forearm
oh yeah. I meant to put forearm
Did you really need to photoshop Bibby's head over Mini Mes? I could barely tell the difference.
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