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I would agree that James Posey should be suspended. That shot was a lot harder the Artest shot but it wasnt to the head. Still should be suspended.
for james posey. its official now that the NBA is a bunch of crap.
I would agree that James Posey should be suspended. That shot was a lot harder the Artest shot but it wasnt to the head. Still should be suspended.
i call bull on this. stu is a piece of . the nba is inconsistent. he was there to see the and still refuses to take action.
Ron Artest got screwed.
Funny thing about his comments were he said its better to be at the game then to just look at tape, because the tape doesn't tell the whole story. Then he looks at the tape and suspends Artest. What a pile of .
Whatever though, whats done is done. No need to dwell on it. Artest is back and he will have some fire in him tonight. Cheers to a possibly series deciding game 3.
Posey has never jumped into the stands and assaulted fans.
Posey has never demanded an early-season trade from the franchise that stood by him after he was suspended for a year.
Posey, as far as I know, is not a ticking bomb waiting to explode.
It's not just about the severity of the foul. If that was all the NBA considered, Posey definitely should have received a suspension since his hit was harder than Artest's.
But Stu Jackson has said in no uncertain terms that recidivism is one of the factors they look to when assigning punishments for infractions of the rules.
It's a valid (and extremely important) part of our criminal justice system. , it doesn't matter if you're punishing an career criminal or a problem child or a "professional" basketball player; you must take into account patterns of behavior and the potential for future infractions of the rules.
Don't get me wrong. I disagree with Ron's suspension in the first round this year in a lot of ways. But you can't pull the "inconsistent" card by just comparing the severity of the fouls and nothing else.
That is the part I thought was bull . Artest had been on his best behavior since coming back to the league. I think he had a grand total of one technical foul. the past. If Stu wants to play that way, there are many other players who should receive similar treatment for fights they've participated in.
Actually, he DID get suspended for 1 game.
They just said on ESPN that Posey is suspended for a game.
I'm sure there were three-month periods where Ted Bundy didn't rape and murder some poor girl. I'm not saying that Ron Artest is a serial killer, but he is a sociopath. Experience has taught that crazy people don't change overnight. If you think that everything is all well and good because he changed zip codes, you're gonna get one uva shock when he has his inevitable meltdown in Sacramento.
Although, I guess it's moot since Posey did get suspended. But the point remains: there is a line you can cross where what happened in the past is not all just "forgive and forget." And I'm pretty sure almost anyone would tell you that Ron Artest crossed that line when he physically assaulted a basketball fan with the intent to cause serious bodily harm.
my bad
Thanks for the info.
Can I call you Dr. Conqueso now?
Damn, what's with all the suspensions in the first round alone...? Where was the NBA in the regular season with all this setting an example stuff?
Sociopath:
One who is affected with a personality disorder marked by antisocial behavior.
Antisocial:
Hostile to or disruptive of the established social order; marked by or engaging in behavior that violates accepted mores:
from Wikipedia:
"During his rookie season with the Chicago Bulls, he was the subject of criticism for applying for a job at Circuit City, just to get an employee discount. He once attended an Indiana Pacers practice in a bath robe. He was suspended for two games in the early 2004-05 season by Pacers coach Rick Carlisle after he allegedly asked for a month off because he was tired from promoting an R&B album for the group Allure on his production label. Artest had also been suspended for three games in 2003 for destroying a television camera in Madison Square Garden, and for four games for a confrontation with Miami Heat coach Pat Riley in 2003....Artest jumped into the front-row seats and confronted a man he believed to be responsible (who turned out to be the wrong man), which in turn erupted into a brawl between Pistons fans and several of the Pacers. Artest returned to the basketball court, and punched Pistons fan A.J. Shackleford, who was apparently taunting Artest verbally. [He was susended for 73 games and the playoffs, the longest non-drug or betting related suspension ever. Criminal charges are still pending against him.]...Early in the 2005-06 season, Artest requested a trade from the Indiana Pacers and was put on the team's inactive roster. Artest's call for a trade created a rift between him and his teammates. 'We felt betrayed, a little disrespected,' teammate Jermaine O'Neal said. As for their basketball relationship, O'Neal said: 'The business relationship is over. That's fact.' Pacers president Larry Bird said he also felt 'betrayed' and 'disappointed'."
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Noname, you don't have to be a medical doctor to connect the ing dots. Use your brain.
They are just sending a message when the most people are watching..."Don't fudge around, or you will cost your team."
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...uspends_posey/Press Release - James Posey of the Miami Heat has been suspended one game without pay for knocking Chicago’s Kirk Hinrich to the floor, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Senior Vice President Basketball Operations.
Posey was assessed a Flagrant Foul Penalty Two for the incident which occurred with 3:15 remaining in the fourth period of the Bulls’ 109-90 win over the visiting Heat at the United Center on April 27. Posey will miss Game 4 of the series, which will be played at the United Center on Sunday, April 30.
so where are all those people that say the NBA conspires to have the Heat in the Finals ?
what a joke......i guess MJ still has his way with the NBA when it comes to influence for the bulls
So what type of doctor are you?
Why are you spending your time harping on an ancillary and irrelevant point?
Does it really matter if Ron Artest fits an exact psychological definition of "sociopathic"? It's abundantly clear that Artest has problems with following rules designed to ensure that players' conduct is within a range of acceptability. The fact that he is a recidivist, not a sociopath, is the reason he got suspended. The fact that he is a sociopath explains his behavior, not his suspension.
Do you think that only a medical doctor can determine whether or not someone is a sociopath? Hitler was never mentally examined or diagnosed for that illness...can you honestly say that he isn't a sociopath? Are you that dumb?
And, just so you know, I'm in medical school (albeit without a focus in psychiatry, but I still have to take classes in it). While I haven't been conferred a degree yet, I bet I'm one hundred thousand times more qualified to assess his mental condition than you are. Plus, I don't have an inherent bias to color my viewpoint.
So you are saying at this point in time you are a wanna be doctor?
So I pulled out my DSM-IV because Noname piqued my interest:
"Antisocial personality disorder"
A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others
6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
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Ron Artest:
1. "acts that are grounds or arrest": Assault, fraud
2. no explicit evidence of deceitfulness, although his use of the alias "TruWarier" and his idolization of Dennis Rodman speak volumes.
3. Frequent flagrant fouls can be a result of serious impulsivity
4. "Irritability" and "aggresiveness": self-evident
5. "reckless disregard for safety of others"...hahaha
6. "consistent irresonsibility": asking for a trade (breach of contract); asking for a month off of work to promote a rap album (breach of contract); inability to play even half of a season due to suspensions the past two years
7. "lack of remorse": failure to publicly and fully atone for the brawl
Even if you don't want to give me all seven, you still have to give me 1, 4, 5, 6, and 7. No matter how biased you may be, you must admit that he certainly fulfills 3 of the criteria. The public record contains enough information to diagnose him as antisocial (and thus "sociopathic") under the DSM-IV.
You need to own up to your error on this point, because you are outmatched...just like the Kings are against the Spurs.
Good luck finishing med-school. Let me know when you are a real doc okay!!!
p.s.- you are putting to much effort into this doc. Focus on school.
That's actually true...this whole string of posts has been one long procrastination from studying for exams.
At least I can take solace in the fact that, in some small way, it is medically related....
If only you put as much effort into your posts, you might actually write something factually accurate or impartial.
You were sucked in and I take pride in that. I simply wrote a couple of one liners and you took the bait.
I don't need to put effort into anything with you. You are easy.
Now get back to studying ya hear.
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