My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce

[whottt]

It's not about who can defend Bonzi, not one of our swing players can...Finley, Manu, Barry and Bruce all do an equally crappy job...He goes through them all like a knife through hot butter.

But Finley is our biggest swing guy...he goes 6'7 220, he's actually bigger than Bonzi..

On top of that he is a better rebounder than Bruce(this is key) and he can make Bonzi play D better than Bruce...he puts more pressure on the Kings D than Bruce.


Switching out Barry for Manu will not work here...#1. Barry has settled into his bench role and he now gets time initiating the offense and creating and he does a great job of it.

#2. Manu actually did a pretty good job against Aretest defensively, Manu's flopping comes in handy if nothing else. And he's still an offensive threat.

This allows us to put Bruce on Kevin Martin(someone Bruce can be effective against). And Bruce, not Barry, Manu or Finley, is our top 3 point shooter...he can be effective stretching the Kings D when their subs are in.


Ron Artest is not the problem.
Mike Bibby is not the problem.
Brad Milelr is not the problem.

Bonzi Wells and his 22 rbpg average is the problem...for most of the game Bonzi was only 5 boards short of matching our entire teams total.


Oh...and the time is now to get that long 3...or at least a heavier guy...

Stephen Jackson, Hedo and even Glenn Robinson would all be serving us well right now...

We cannot put this off any longer...and no I don't think Sanikidze is going to be what we need(at least not if we want to win a le).

[BigVee]

Well one thing is for certain. If there are not some changes this series will end badly. If the Spurs bring the same game plan, same sub pattern, same tired offense, same lack of effort....they are going to get the same result. When the ball is up for grabs and no one on your team goes after it, all the other stuff becomes unimportant. The Spurs need to be sprawled out on the floor like the Kings have been. Wouldn't worry to much about saving anything for the next series, because at this effort level, there will not be one.

[MannyIsGod]

I think Finley has done the best job on him so far in the series although thats still not saying much. I really doubt we'll see that, but you never know. I woudln't mind it at this point.

[Kori Ellis]

Oh...and the time is now to get that long 3...or at least a heavier guy...

Stephen Jackson, Hedo and even Glenn Robinson would all be serving us well right now...

We cannot put this off any longer...and no I don't think Sanikidze is going to be what we need(at least not if we want to win a le).

Why not? He's a 6'9 small forward. Isn't that what you are looking for?

[Kori Ellis]

But Finley is our biggest swing guy...he goes 6'7 220, he's actually bigger than Bonzi..

Bonzi weighs around 245. Don't look at his list weight from 10 years ago.

[timvp]

Starting Finley over Bowen makes more sense than starting Rasho over Nazr. Rasho finally got in a rhythm and was playing his best basketball of the season off the bench ... until he went back into the starting lineup.

I would defend Bowen right now but I just don't see the fire in him.

[mabber]

Y'all are high! As much as I love Finley (I'm a long time Mav fan) he should continue to come off the bench. Yes, Bowen is having a hard time on defense vs. Bonzi but Bonzi does that to anyone when he's focused. I've been impressed by the way Pop has handled Finley's playing time, etc.. I think Finley coming off the bench with some scoring punch is the perfect situation for him at this stage of his career. Finley is going to shoot decently 2 of every 3 games. I'm sure you've figured this out by now, but he pretty much has a lame game that 3rd game.

[Slinkyman]

My solution: Don't go small, have 2 bigs on the court at all times. Put Duncan on bonzi and force him to beat us with jump shots and NO MORE DOUBLE TEAMS. Play them straight up, and if they can beat us with jump shots fine. No more easy lay ups and put backs!

[Kori Ellis]

My solution: Don't go small, have 2 bigs on the court at all times. Put Duncan on bonzi and force him to beat us with jump shots and NO MORE DOUBLE TEAMS. Play them straight up, and if they can beat us with jump shots fine. No more easy lay ups and put backs!

I agree with stop going small. When Artest and Bonzi are huge compared to anyone we have and Bonzi is dominating the glass like top notch PF, Finley isn't the solution. They need a big on him.

[weebo]

#1 The Spurs need to run more. They need to get out on the break and put the pressure on the Kings defense. The game's tempo has been in the king's favor. Drive to the basket when the oppurtunity arises and get to the line (eventhough our freethrow shooting is poor). Also, get Duncan more involved. No one player on the kings can gaurd him straightup. Force them to double and hopefully that will open up some shots from the three point line.

#2 Rebounding, or lack thereof, has been the glaring issue for the Spurs in this series and all year long. Rebounding is a matter of effort and concentration. Both of which the Spurs do not have. Rule one of rebounding is boxing out your opponent for position--this includes gaurds for long rebounds.

#3 Collective defensive instensity. Bonzi Wells didn't turn into Lebron James overnight. The Spurs have been slow on defense, slow on rotations, and just plain slow. An occassional zone might force the kings into a few more jumpshots but I think our bigs have to do a better job of protecting the bucket. Rotating baseline has been slow in coming when either Wells, SAR, or Artest run weakside isolation.

# 4 Finally, more EFFORT. The effort wasn't there the last two games. The Spurs have looked old and beat up. We need guys diving for loose balls, fighting for rebounds, and being more emotional. Last night they looked a lot like the Spurs of .4. Bascially they looked s shocked. If they want it, if they truly are great compe ors, they'll find the heart and will to give everything they have to win.

[GrandeDavid]

Rather than juggling the lineup, I'd like to see the Spurs just bring an asskicking, smack em in the grill at ude from the opening tip like they did in Game1. The Spurs have been in this situation before and I have little if any doubt they'll come through this series. No excuses, the Spurs just pussed out in Game4. Give Sacramento credit, though. I think EVERYBODY will show up tomorrow. I know I'll be live and loud at the game.

[Gin N Juice]

The past 2 games have made them look old and slow.

[mavsfan1000]

Bowen plays much better at home!

[nkdlunch]

Another "solution"

How about start playing championship defense?

[TDMVPDPOY]

theres a reason why whott is not the spurs coach or gm

[Thekid]

Y'all are high! As much as I love Finley (I'm a long time Mav fan) he should continue to come off the bench. Yes, Bowen is having a hard time on defense vs. Bonzi but Bonzi does that to anyone when he's focused. I've been impressed by the way Pop has handled Finley's playing time, etc.. I think Finley coming off the bench with some scoring punch is the perfect situation for him at this stage of his career. Finley is going to shoot decently 2 of every 3 games. I'm sure you've figured this out by now, but he pretty much has a lame game that 3rd game.

I'm a HUGE Finley fan also but I have to agree, Fin should still come off the Bench. Fin DOES need more shot attempts but I agree coming off the Bench I think he can be more effective than putting him in the starting lineup. Although right now Bowen is giving the Spurs NOTHING.

[Que Gee]

Starting Finley over Bowen makes more sense than starting Rasho over Nazr. Rasho finally got in a rhythm and was playing his best basketball of the season off the bench ... until he went back into the starting lineup.

I would defend Bowen right now but I just don't see the fire in him.

Look for Tim to guard Bonzi next game.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

I'm not sure about Duncan on Bonzi, I suspect he doesn't have the speed to stay with him, but it would be worth a shot. I kinda like Duncan on Artest though, I wouldn't mind seeing more of that. It also would be nice to see two bigs out there and some sort of zone, but then the question is which two bigs? No one other than Duncan seems to be rebounding (Rasho was playing pretty well, until game 4 when he gave them 2 rebounds in 24 minutes )

[Mavtek]

Ultimately another problem with your swingmen is their age. The Spurs only have 1 of 4 swingmen under the age of 30 (Ginobli). As we age our speed and hops greatly reduce. I think if Finley, Bowen, and Barry weren't at a stage of decline this might be less of an issue.

This dynasty maybe over, it's great to have 3 great young players in Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, but I think the Spurs organization has a made a grave mistake trying to surround them with senior citizens.

[polandprzem]

Bowen plays much better at home!

You mean video games?

[ShoogarBear]

Well, to be fair, the Spurs tried to get younger with JR Smith and they have young legs in the pipeline in Europe so it's not like they aren't already planning for the eventual departure of Bowen, Horry, Finley et al.

But yeah, right now (and maybe next year) they are getting hurt by younger legs at both the 3 and 4.

[implacable44]

that might be true - might be true - time will tell if the veterans pay off in the end and deliver another championship as they have in the past. The Mavs are in a good position no matter who comes out of this series. This could be the Mavs year. I still think the Spurs will get them if they execute because the Mavs have no answer for TD.

[mabber]

This dynasty maybe over, it's great to have 3 great young players in Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, but I think the Spurs organization has a made a grave mistake trying to surround them with senior citizens.

I disagree completely about the Spur's organization making a grave mistake. As much as I don't want to disagree with another Mav fan that statement is way off. They've built this team to win another championship this season. They'll continue to build around the big 3 with different pieces each year. At some point they'll go younger but bringing in older players was not a grave mistake by any means.

[ducks]

so you must think spurs will beat kings wow

[mabber]

so you must think spurs will beat kings wow

Not sure if this was directed at me, but I definitely think the Spurs will beat the Kings. Like I mentioned in a post I started earlier, I'm hoping they do cuz I want to see the Mavs take down the Spurs.