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    Upon further review:

    I just watched the last 5 mins of game 3, and came to the conclusion that the Spurs did get jobbed bigtime. I know in the heat of the moment, we all think calls are bad, but after having some time to calm down, and sit and watch the last 5 mins, I can say without a doubt that the refs are responsible for the Spurs losing this game.

    Here are the calls in question:

    1. On TD's 5th foul, Dirk misses shot, he goes up and grabs O rebound, going over the back of Bowen in the process, knocking him across the lane. When Dirk goes back up to shoot, TD gets called for his 5th foul. TD barely makes contact, if at all. Dirk made 2 FTs

    Result - 2 pts and TD getting 5th foul


    2. Dirk dribbles the ball off his foot, in top of the key area, then tries to retrieve the ball, diving out of bounds, Barry is called for tripping, and the replay showed that Brent was nowhere near Dirk, and Dirk just fell out of bounds. Dirk hits 2 FTs

    Result: -2 pts

    3. 2:54 left, Spurs up 2 pts. Tony clearly gets pushed in the back cutting to the basket and knocked down just as TD passes the ball, and the ball goes out of bounds, resulting in anothet turnover for SA.

    Result: Loss of possession, and possible basket and points.

    4. TD gets 6th foul after Dirk steps on TD's ankle and loses balance. Again, there is very little contact by TD and Dirk was just out of control, and flailing after his loss of balance.

    Result : -2pts and Spurs lose TD for remaining of game which is huge.

    These four HORRIBLE calls, cost the Spurs 6 pts and the services of TD in crunch time. In a one point game, these bad calls determined the result of the game, no doubt about it.

    Cuban's threats paid off again, and it shows that the refs are affraid of Cuban and his tapes that he makes of each game, which shows all the poor calls. Well, I think Peter Holt or Pop need to send the film of game 3 to Stern and the Spurs need to get some decent calls now. Turn about is fair play.

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    You are so right...also, the play where Josh Howard was called for a foul on his block of Manu. That should have been a flagrant 2---2 shots, the ball and an ejection.

    In conclusion, WHAAAAA!

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    You are so right...also, the play where Josh Howard was called for a foul on his block of Manu. That should have been a flagrant 2---2 shots, the ball and an ejection.

    In conclusion, WHAAAAA!
    Okay, so Mavs = 1 bad call, Spurs = 10000000000000000000000000000

    STFU.

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    Okay, so Mavs = 1 bad call, Spurs = 10000000000000000000000000000

    STFU.
    Yeah, STFU

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    3. 2:54 left, Spurs up 2 pts. Tony clearly gets pushed in the back cutting to the basket and knocked down just as TD passes the ball, and the ball goes out of bounds, resulting in anothet turnover for SA.
    That was the ing killer. TP was wide open and I think the lead would have been four. When a player cuts to an open basket and is impeded, you have to call it. It's ing automatic. This calls contradicts the BS call in favor the Barry phantom trip. Even Hubie was all over that saying: "I don't know about that. He wasn't tripped" That is saying something.

    It is what it is even though the refs ed up. On to GAME 4.

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    Didn't record it but there is a play where Manu drives from the left baseline, goes up for about an 8" jumpshot and gets pushed in the chest as he's shooting by Dampier. No call. I know it was in the later part of the 4th. When exactly was that?

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    You are so right...also, the play where Josh Howard was called for a foul on his block of Manu. That should have been a flagrant 2---2 shots, the ball and an ejection.

    In conclusion, WHAAAAA!
    I want to ask you something;

    How can you call Bowen ugly when your star player looks like a re ed goat on steroids?

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    As stated earlier, if the Spurs coulf gaurd someone on the perimeter and keep the Mavs out of the lane, none of this would be an issue.

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    2. Dirk dribbles the ball off his foot, in top of the key area, then tries to retrieve the ball, diving out of bounds, Barry is called for tripping, and the replay showed that Brent was nowhere near Dirk, and Dirk just fell out of bounds. Dirk hits 2 FTs

    Result: -2 pts
    that pissed me off the most..

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    Did we really need another thread about the officials?

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    ...because Dirk is so prettyyyy

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    ...because Dirk is so prettyyyy

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    Hey JimCS

    Very lazy point about "that was one bad call for you versus a thousand." The point is, your analysis is SELECTIVE and thus not credible. You cannot only include calls that go against your team; its intellectually dishonest.

    You guys have been watching too much crybaby basketball for too long.

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    Great thread Jim.

    I've been saying all night that all one needs to do is rewatch that damn game and watch where the officials are and see how they swallowed there whistles and called BS to help the Mavs.

    Watch the damn game again.

    I hate when Spurs fans whine about people that have legit gripes about the officiating.

    Refs > Spurs

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    ...because Dirk is so prettyyyy
    very pretty. Congrats on the Brokeback2 deal.






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    ^ Last resort for a desperate Spurs fan.........


    I guess the refs made Nazr and Manu fumble the ball? and Horry miss that last basket. why not blame the refs for the global warming whlie your at it

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    Hey JimCS

    Very lazy point about "that was one bad call for you versus a thousand." The point is, your analysis is SELECTIVE and thus not credible. You cannot only include calls that go against your team; its intellectually dishonest.

    You guys have been watching too much crybaby basketball for too long.
    This coming from the guy who's team's owner cries publically and on a blog and sends tapes of every game he finds unfairly officiated to the league office. Shut the up already dude. You'd be whining and crying too if this was happening to the Mavs.

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    Hey JimCS

    Very lazy point about "that was one bad call for you versus a thousand." The point is, your analysis is SELECTIVE and thus not credible. You cannot only include calls that go against your team; its intellectually dishonest.

    You guys have been watching too much crybaby basketball for too long.
    Those were all CLEARLY bad calls. The ONE bad call the Mavs can lay claim to is the one where Howard blocked Manu. The Mavs got every other legimate call and several illegitimate ones. Even the Armstrong call some Mavs were ing about replay showed Armstrong was not stationary but sliding to his left to get the contact. Fact is that in crunch time the refs screwed the Spurs and took the game from them the Mavs didn't.

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    Hehe...yes...I love you Dirk...

    on another note, please get that benedict arnold next to him off my screen

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    Too funny...too f'in funny...

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    So does eveyone agree with my point about how you guys just based on selective analysis, ignoring the facts that don't support your case? This is what it means to be a homer and not have credibility.

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    So does eveyone agree with my point about how you guys just based on selective analysis, ignoring the facts that don't support your case? This is what it means to be a homer and not have credibility.
    You got one bad call on your side. Why don't you acknowledge ours because you're complaining that we're whining and then you bring up the call on Howard. Cry me a river.

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    MVP so far of the playoffs = NBA Referees

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    good post

    I know refs are human and make mistakes, but when those mistakes go from only influencing the game, and setting the pace of the game (which refs should have no part in anyway), to actually effecting the outcome of the game, I get pissed.

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    You are obviously just pissed right now.

    1. With as much contact as Bowen has with Dirk, you can bet the refs will let Dirk have some also. Listen to yourself about contact between Dirk and Bowen... how ironic. BTW... Duncan's arms weren't straight up in the air. That was a foul, just like it would be on our big men.
    2. There was contact on this play. Barry was nowhere near him... what tape are you watching???? Realistically tho, this call could have gone either way.
    3. Not clear cut. Could've been called either way as a trip or just TP tripping on defender's foot.
    4. Duncan tried his best to get out of the way. But there was contact, Duncan was in the restricted area, and yes... Dirk did lose his balance and completely lose the ball after rolling his ankle. Another difficult call.

    Now, yall did get the Howard's clean block on Manu call. Things aren't as slanted as you think they are.

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