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    Everyone can about the refs, complain about missed freethrows, and all that. But bottom line is that the Spurs can't get a stop.

    Their defense is horrible right now. The mini-me lineup can't stop anyone. They switch on the pickandrolls and Duncan gets caught guarding Harris and Tony gets left on Dirk. The defense just escorts the Mavs down the lane.

    I can't really blame Pop THAT much because the centers suck, but damnit the defense sucks with no bigs in the lineup (outside Tim).

    Congrats to the Mavs on another victory.

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    We can win this series with Offense. Just need to finish, plus I never complain about the refs ever but for the first time in my life I think the spurs got robbed.

    neverthess, I will be shocked if the spurs don't win this series.

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    Exactly! I can't understand how a team can go through a season limiting opponents to 41% FG shooting during the season and all of a sudden the dam breaks in the playoffs.

    Will Pop now go back to his more traditional lineup? , his version of Nellie-ball hasn't worked so far.

    Let's also not discount the turnovers. This team doesn't seem to value possessions. Because the Mavs shoot so well, if you give them additional possessions via costly turnovers and compound it by not hitting FTs, you're killing your chances of winning.

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    We can win this series with Offense. Just need to finish, plus I never complain about the refs ever but for the first time in my life I think the spurs got robbed.

    neverthess, I will be shocked if the spurs don't win this series.
    Bennete Salvatore will own us all

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    "The NBA officials, they suck."

    - Charles Barkley on the Spurs loss.

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    Maybe now Pop starts a big alongside TD. A real one. Well, one close enough.

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    I was pissed about that, there is very little effort to fight through screens and Spurs constantly get into mis-matches. I have no idea where the the D has gone but it is pretty damn sad.

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    I can live with the Spurs losing if they played their game and not the Mavs'.

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    after seeing the outcome of games 2,3,4......there has to be some reason to play Nazr or Rasho for some decent minutes at the start of game 5 just to see what effect it has

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    The Spurs got ed by Bavetta. trying to act like it was anything else.

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    The Spurs can never get a stop because it's always a whistle that stops momentum from building up in there favor.

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    The Spurs got ed by Bavetta. trying to act like it was anything else.
    Word!

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    Everyone can about the refs, complain about missed freethrows, and all that. But bottom line is that the Spurs can't get a stop.

    Their defense is horrible right now. The mini-me lineup can't stop anyone. They switch on the pickandrolls and Duncan gets caught guarding Harris and Tony gets left on Dirk. The defense just escorts the Mavs down the lane.

    I can't really blame Pop THAT much because the centers suck, but damnit the defense sucks with no bigs in the lineup (outside Tim).

    Congrats to the Mavs on another victory.
    It was unreal the amount of contested jumpers they were making. I mean they were not wide open the whole game. The jumpers Terry hit over Duncan on the right baseline literally made me sick.

    Refs sucked ass. It is what it is. Props to mavs for hitting shots. On to game 5.

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    True...Our Offense from the big three was the best you could hope for. The outside shooting from the bench with our bench were all falling our way as well with 8-14 threes...

    We lost because of our defense...And I hate to say it, but...maybe it's because they're quicker than us because they're younger than some of our defenders.

    If it's any consolation, I remember when the Spurs were called the younger team against a tired old Laker team who got veterans to fill up their spots. And it was true, they looked very good and fast. Then the Lakers beat them, regardless of their upperhand.
    3 wins isn't 4.
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    very classy Kori...either way it was a great game by both teams-and the Mavs were lucky to get out with the win..Tim Duncan has been an absolute monster this series.

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    Amen Kori. I love the Spurs, but it's plain to see. The only game where the Spurs were able to hold the Mavs to less than a hundred was the first. Every game since has been a struggle (credit AJ for emphasizing Devin Harris and the rest of their speedy lineup to keep on penetraing and attacking Duncan, who is the only real low post stopper we have of late).

    The Spurs bench is showing its age. We have veterans who know what it takes to hit shots, but they aren't quick enough to prevent the penetration of Dallas guards. Even the transition defense as has been terrible (Sacramento exposed that).

    And it doesn't help that Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili are banged up. I'm not trying to make excuses, but there you have it. God bless Timmy and Parker, but they are in pain (I can just imagine how grimacing it must be for TD everytime he tries to go for a block).

    Unless Pop finds a way to keep Dallas from getting in the paint (and he did his best by trying to go small), the Mavs are going to take it. Barry, Nick, and Finley are showing their age. Mohammed is all thumbs. And Nesterovic too slow.

    Make no mistake. It ain't over. But whatever happens. Next season, the Spurs need to get younger, and healthier. Just my two cents.

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    after seeing the outcome of games 2,3,4......there has to be some reason to play Nazr or Rasho for some decent minutes at the start of game 5 just to see what effect it has
    Exactly. If Pop was willing to throw Oberto into the game the other night to see what might happen, , why not try Rasho next time? (I don't want Nazr anywhere near the brown spherical object known as a basketball.) And speaking of Oberto, why didn't he get any minutes tonight? He had a pretty decent game in Game 3.

    It's not that the Mavs are beating us. They're a very good, but not a great team. It's that we're not playing our brand of basketball. So the woulda, coulda, shouldas are worse.

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    "The NBA officials, they suck."

    - Charles Barkley on the Spurs loss.

    So just so we're clear for the next game, you wanted Bennett Salvatore right? I heard a lot of posters begging for Bavetta before the game and all happy about that and now look, more complaining. Instead of blaming it on the refs maybe you should do a bit more analysis of why the Spurs are losing and try to understand gameplay and matchups and the changes that need to be made. Instead of blaming the refs maybe you can understand that the Spurs AND the Mavs played well tonight. The mavs didn't play well in the first quarter but they played hard just to keep in the game the middle quarters. I'm not dissing you but it seems like some posters never talk ball they just blame the refs.

    As for Charles Barkley, he changes his tune every game. Earlier tonight he said that whichever team wins the game tonight will win the series. Now he complains about the officiating because his pick didn't win. Magic Johnson said the mavs were a team to watch and knows how to analyze a matchup. I wish he was there tonight.

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    So just so we're clear for the next game, you wanted Bennett Salvatore right? I heard a lot of posters begging for Bavetta before the game and all happy about that and now look, more complaining. Instead of blaming it on the refs maybe you should do a bit more analysis of why the Spurs are losing and try to understand gameplay and matchups and the changes that need to be made. Instead of blaming the refs maybe you can understand that the Spurs AND the Mavs played well tonight. The mavs didn't play well in the first quarter but they played hard just to keep in the game the middle quarters. I'm not dissing you but it seems like some posters never talk ball they just blame the refs.
    The thread you are refering to wasn't a joke, it was a declaration, it was inevitable. And nowhere in that thread did I say he would help them win. Nowhere did i say I wanted him

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    Nice game tonight; I think my voice is gone. Man, let's make this thing best of 15 and skip the rest of the Eastern Conference games! Respect to both teams for laying it all out there...it was like Rocky vs. Clubber Lang vs. Ivan Drago vs. Godzilla out there. I thought TD won it with that shot to end regulation...then Finley tries to make Cuban cry with his ridiculous shots! Overtime belonged to Jet, poor little Devean showed his youth a bit. Anyone else watch on TV? That first layup Harris made in OT...he outran the freakin' camera! All the big names from both teams showed up tonight. Can't wait for Game 5. Good luck to both teams!

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    So just so we're clear for the next game, you wanted Bennett Salvatore right? I heard a lot of posters begging for Bavetta before the game and all happy about that and now look, more complaining. Instead of blaming it on the refs maybe you should do a bit more analysis of why the Spurs are losing and try to understand gameplay and matchups and the changes that need to be made. Instead of blaming the refs maybe you can understand that the Spurs AND the Mavs played well tonight. The mavs didn't play well in the first quarter but they played hard just to keep in the game the middle quarters. I'm not dissing you but it seems like some posters never talk ball they just blame the refs.
    Refs > Spurs

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    The thread you are refering to wasn't a joke, it was a declaration, it was inevitable. And nowhere in that thread did I say he would help them win. Nowhere did i say I wanted him
    I'm not referring to the Bavetta thread from earlier today (if that was started by you). I read this in the officiating thread and some others, maybe before they were merged.

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    The Kings were a matchup problem. The Spur adjusted and won. The Mavs are an even harder matchup. What will the outcome be?

    In my opinion, the Spurs need to go with what has given them success all the time. Defense. That means starting Rasho or Nazr. Who fives a crap about the Spurs giving up speed. The Spurs aren't doing a good job of keeping them out of the lane anyway. Why not play a zone defense with Tim and Rasho playing in the middle?

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    Not going to answer the question are you? You REALLY wanted Salvatore so we'll see if he somehow comes through for the Spurs as you believe he will. Why don't you talk about the things that the Spurs didn't do to win the game instead of blaming the loss on the refs?

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    "The NBA officials, they suck."

    - Charles Barkley on the Spurs loss.
    Accrediting any of your claims as being backed up by Charles Barkley is ridiculous. He's a self admitted gambling addict. He probably bet on the Spurs and is pissed off that they lost.

    Just because he's on TV doesn't make everything he says legit.

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