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Sounds familiar.
"When they (Nazr and Rasho) have gotten time, it hasn't been enough for them to really produce," Popovich said. "This particular series, it's difficult for big guys to guard Dallas' perimeter. It's tough to put a big guy on Dirk (Nowitzki).
"The way the rules are, offense really has an advantage, obviously. He has a huge advantage when big guys try to stay with him, so I can't afford to get somebody like Tim Duncan in foul trouble, and the other big guys don't have a shot with that."
Pretty simple. Not going to change this series. You have to put Tim on their center, so there is no one to match Nazr or Rasho up with.
Sounds familiar.
Yeah some of us have been saying this for quite some time now.
So then we'll be seeing the same if the Spurs and Phoenix win Monday?
Fo shizzle Pop lover.
Fo shizzle Pop lover.
I guess I could understand all this better if the small ball lineup was in any way slowing Dirk down...it isn't...he's just shooting over whoever is guarding him, we are still having to double team him, he's still getting to the FT line umpteen times per game, plus he's rebounding like Bill Russell...and so are the rest of the Mavs....and they are making our interior D look like the Phoenix Suns.
I am trying to figure out exactly what we are gaining by sticking with the small ball...
It seems to me that all we do is give up our shotblocking, interior D and rebounding and are still woefully ineffective against Dirk.
I really don't understand why Horry isn't getting minutes on him...
And the thing no one mentions...if we stick Nazr in there there Dirk has to guard a big man and he might actually pick up a foul every now and then.
Let Nazr pull some minutes on him too and lay some wood on Dirk's ass...it's not like we are stopping Dirk in any way, shape or form with small ball...so I really don't understand what it is that we'd lose by having a big in there even if they are mismatched on Dirk...just have them back off of him on the perimeter and let Dirk shoot...like he does any time he is being defended by a smaller defender anyway....at least we'd have some rebounding in there.
Yes, and all this works if Harris can't recapture his confidence.
Sorry, but that's just lame. I agree that one minute of PT isn't enough for them to produce. That's about it.
Pop should probably explain why he puts Horry or Oberto in to cover the center when Duncan is on the bench in foul trouble.
lol
THATS JUST LAME
yeah that pop what a moron.
Since you can't rationally defend it, better to just stick with insults. As I said, that's just lame.
I don't usually agree with you on much of anything-but if small ball is the answer, why have we owned the Mavs all these years using our bigs? The small guys are struggling with him and he's scoring at will anyway.
Can one guy beat us? I don't care if Dirk shoots a bunch of threes and takes a smaller guy into the lane--if we have someone other than Tim to be there to meet him. Everyone is talking about Dallas using up all their 6 fouls on their bigs defending Tim. Why can't we give up a few hard fouls on Dirk as well?
Hmmm....I dunno...the Suns are much more easily overpowered by size in a half court set, so I don't think it would be totally the same. I am sure Pop would use the small lineup some, but the bigs should see more play than they have against the Mavs.
I think what will happen if we have bigs guarding Dirk is a Free-throw fest to star tthe game, with our big guys getting into foul trouble anyway.
Its kinda no point in getting Dallas to the line early in the game, and then shifting to smaller defenders-at least with smaller guys we can cut down on dirk's penetration more often.
Exactly this I am wondering last few days. Dirk doesn't seems to be effected with small ball. His career average vs. Spurs is 20.8 pts, in PO 2006 it is 25.5. So, Spurs are not stopping Dirk.
Lets check some other stats:
J. Terry has career vs. Spurs 13.9 in PO 2006 it is 18.5
J. Howard has career vs. Spurs 12.8 in PO 2006 it is 16.2
D. Harris has career vs. Spurs 9.2 in PO 2006 it is 14.5
In career numbers are pts from PO 2006 already included, so the difference is even bigger. BTW: J. Stackhouse is not affected with small ball in any direction.
So. Small ball doesn't stop Dirk, doesn't stop Stackhouse, it just open paint for Terry, Howard and Harris.
That said, I don't belive that Pop will change line-up on Monday, neither I belive that Mavs will win.
I just think that Pop is making wrong decision and that he will get away with it. Spurs shouldn't have so many problems with Mavs.
You make some good valid points. I wonder sometimes if the Spurs gave up to quickly on their big lineup. Yes, I am certainly aware that going with the bigs really makes perimeter defense tough, but with a lack of rebounding, and shot blocking, is almost seems like a wash if you ask me. It wouldn't have hurt to try and go big and play zone D behind it just to see if it would have worked a bit...yeah yeah, I am aware that Pop hates zone, but he also hates to go small, so why not.
All that being said, the smalls have began to become acustomed to their new roles, and have been improving every game, so I wouldn't change it anymore now.
The key to tomorrows game is to jump on them early and late. The Mavs haven't been there before, and the Spurs have. The Mavs will cave under pressure, but the Spurs have to put that pressure on them by bulding a lead late. Harris and Howard have been very solid for the Mavs, but making shots in the 2nd quarter of a game 2 isn't half as difficult as making the same shot down 8 in a game 7 elimination game on the other teams home court.
GO SPURS GO !!
Whott- you really want to see Nazr attempt to cover Dirk??
Screw this.. I want Twin Towers back...
BEEEP this small BEEP.
Last edited by Vashner; 05-21-2006 at 03:47 PM.
None of our bigs can cover Dirk, not even Duncan (not that you want him too- 11 minutes in the first half of game 6, anyone?). And if we had Rasho or Nazr in covering Dirk, not only would the quick Mavs blow past them in the lane, but then we suffer on the offensive end because Rasho isn't that good offensively and Nazr can't hold onto the ball.
Now hold on there Melmart. Don't make so much sense of this. Let's keep things more irrational.
I say just put Horry on him-he'd get burned on a drive but he could contest jumpers better than Finley. Duncan on Diop, Parker on Harris, Ginobili on Terry, Bowen on Howard, but then in the fourth, put Bowen on Terry?
Have you seen any TP's layups lately? With Rasho on the floor, there is a lot of place in the paint on the offensive end, and where is place, there are layups.
So you are saying to put Rasho in... so that the Spurs are more spaced out on the offensive end?
Putting Rasho in would help defense more as it would hurt our offense.
How? Who is his slow ass going to guard?
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