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adlemans? the prince? gtfoh
I don't know what PJ is/is not allowed by Pop to do, so not dissing PJ.
That said, Adlemans ball movement offense for Spurs I like.
adlemans? the prince? gtfoh
After 16 seasons as a head coach and making it to the Finals twice, I'm sure Adelman would really take an assistant position. Re ed.
are you that stupid? adleman already said hes taking at LEAST a year off and then he will consider coming back to the nba. why the would he wanna be an assistant?
It would be a great idea, but Pop's ego would never let it happen.
rick wants a year off
head assistant coach hundreds of thousands of dollars
head coach millions
I think ahf got it right ego would be the problem but not pop's
pj was a head coach
I'd love to know what PJ is and is not allowed to implement.
It would be a horrible idea.
What a stupid ing idea.
Please tell me which of your bigs would run the offense from the high post?
Nazr and Rasho are passing geniuses. You've never seen anyone hit the backdoor cutter like Rasho.
So Nazr and Rasho start? And Duncan sits?
Which guards are going to be playing in the low post? Manu? Bowen?
Sorry, but you don't have the personnel to run the Princeton.
Swap out Duncan with KG and you are on your way.
Sorry. Guess I needed a smiley for that one.
Our personnel doesn't remotely resemble what you need to run the Princeton offense. I'm actually more than a little familiar with it -- I went to school there when Carril was still head coach.
I figured you were joking, but I don't know that much about Rasho and Nazr, so I had to take your post seriously.
I don't think the Kings personnel resembles what is needed to run the Princeton. The only princeton guy is Miller. And his ass needs to go.
Tim.Please tell me which of your bigs would run the offense from the high post?
I don't know if you noticed, but at times we ran the flex this year with Duncan in the high post. Adelman just knows more nuances of that set than Pop, IMO.
Your plan is to change the Spurs offense by predicating it on Tim passing out of the high post to create space to post up our guards?
Umm, why?
Where did I say change the Spurs offense? Teams run different sets in games, you know.
You really are stupid...
You want to hire Adelman to run our offense, and you said you wanted to move Tim to the high post to do it.
Throw in all the gratuitous insults you want, but to me that sounds an awful lot like you wanted to change our offense to move the best low-post player in basketball to the high post, then backtracked when you realized what you had stepped in. Nice try.
There's an old guy who has been on Sac's bench for several years, who invented the Princeton offense when we was coach at .... Princeton:
http://www.nba.com/coachfile/pete_ca....html?nav=page
I wonder if Pete will stick around with Geoff Petrie now that Adelman is gone. I think Pete was brought in as Geoff's choice for asst coach more than Rick's.
It probably depends on whether Musselman gets to pick his own staff or not.
Actually, Carril mostly distilled the Princeton offense out of the kind of complex motion sets they used to run back in the 50s -- he just hung onto it and adapted it after everyone else in basketball went to new styles of play. When he was at Princeton, it was rare for even a gifted freshman to win a starting job, because it took kids a year or two to learn all the wrinkles of the offense.
The funniest thing was when he got hired by Sacto and the Princeton offense became part of a running, high-scoring extravaganza. At Princeton, Carril was the kind of coach that would bench guys for shooting when there were more than 8 seconds on the shot clock, and his defenses sometimes had the lowest points allowed in the NCAA.
The Princeton is very strange in and of itself because of the types of players it thrives on. The Princeton offense was basically started to help unathletic or not as talented players compete with more talented teams. It helped by creating a system that relied heavily on basketball IQ, instead of raw talent.
A few years back, when the Kings had the perfect personnel for that system, watching them play was a thing of beauty.
No, I want Adelman to come in and add to our offense. We've already got some good play sets in place, but more diversity wouldn't hurt anything.You want to hire Adelman to run our offense, and you said you wanted to move Tim to the high post to do it.
I never said I wanted to permanently move Duncan to the high post, just responded to the question of which big man would pass the ball in those types of sets.
THe Spurs already run some flex cut sets where Duncan in the high post, and if you were paying attention this season you would know that. I guess Pop is a dumb too for running some of those play sets already
Aggie-
Are you missing the entire point? Adelman will only run these sets. That is his offense. All ball movement comes from the high post. That means Duncan will be camping out at the top of the key basically making him useless.
Besides, why the would Adelman go from being one of the longest tenured head coaches to be someone's assistant?
And you're missing the point that we would not be running exclusively Adelman sets. All the assistants have their areas of expertise, his would obviously be offense. I'm talking about taking some of his knowledge of the game, especially some principles of the Princeton offense, and adding them to our playbook.Are you missing the entire point? Adelman will only run these sets. That is his offense.
I'm not saying move Tim Duncan to the high post for the entire game, just in stretches where we want to take advantage of matchups and get Parker and Manu going.
Let's face it - if Pop's serious about changing to small ball, his Tim Duncan-centric low post sets are going to be fewer and farther in between anyway, may as well go out and get a great offensive small ball guy to help the cause.
The other thing is if you move Tim out to the high post a little more in games, that means he's fresher at the end of games when we need him at his strongest. The lasting image of the Spurs season was against Dallas in OT with Diop easily pushing Duncan out of his comfort zone down low because Duncan was so gassed.
Now that, on the other hand, is a valid argument. I agree with you there, I see a team willing to bring him in as their head man, making this whole discussion moot.Besides, why the would Adelman go from being one of the longest tenured head coaches to be someone's assistant?
But if there's a chance he'd come here as an assistant to help us diversify our offense, that'd be something I hope Pop would consider.
The Princeton offense is kind of like the triangle -- it's complicated, and it takes a ton of time to learn. If we're only going to use it occasionally, that's a tough sell.
On offense, the main point of small ball was that it sent everyone but Tim out to the perimeter, and left Tim single covered inside most of the time. Tim was amazing out there against Dallas -- he put on a clinic.
We'll continue to have sets where Tim play up in the high post, but I don't think they'll be small ball sets.
I just feel the Princeton is not just something you can incorporate here and there as you are envisioning.
And if you truly wanted to try this, you would have to get Pete Carill (the master of the offense) and Geoff Petrie (the master of finding players for the offense). Adelman is just their Princeton Puppet.
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