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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    NBA thinking of banning 3-Pointers until end of game

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    Bloomberg News
    Oct. 13, 2004 12:00 AM

    The National Basketball Association is considering a plan to abolish the 3-point shot until the end of games to increase shooting percentages and make the sport more aesthetically pleasing.

    The NBA may ban 3-pointers until there's five minutes left in the game in its development league this season, Stu Jackson, NBA senior vice president of basketball operations, said in a telephone interview. The National Basketball Development League season is scheduled to begin Nov. 19.

    "We've talked about it," Jackson said. "We're wrestling with the idea." He said it was too early to tell if the NBA would change the rule. advertisement

    "I don't want to jump that far ahead," he said. "It's a very radical change, certainly one that would take a great deal of time to get support if there were positive aspects."

    Banning the 3-point shot until late in the game might lead to a more up-tempo style and higher shooting percentages because players would be encouraged to take shots closer to the basket. It also would stop players on fast breaks from pulling up for a shot from the three-point line instead of going for layups.

    The NBA ins uted the 3-point shot in 1979. Last season, teams shot a combined 34.7 percent from beyond the 3-point line, which ranges from 22 feet to 23-feet, 9-inches from the basket.

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    Tinkering or even overhauling the rules isn't uncommon for the NBA, which altered its guidelines allowing teams to play zone defenses before the 2001-02 season. Previously, only man-to-man defense was permitted.

    One of the reasons the NBA started the six-team development league in 2001 was to use it as a testing ground for rules changes, Jackson said.

    Steve Kerr, who made a record 45 percent of the 3-pointers that he attempted in his career, said he supports the elimination of the long-range shot.

    "I kind of liked the 3-pointer before every player on every team was a 3-point shooter," Kerr, who won five NBA championships, said in a telephone interview. "It's being shot way too often these days and it's hurting the game. I wouldn't mind seeing an experiment that gets rid of it."

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    Wow. That would really hurt the Spurs. A player like Bruce Bowen would become totally useless on offense. The inside-outside game would also become a lot less effective.

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    Why don't they just take away the PHYSICALITY of the game?

    If you watch games from the early 80s up until the early 90s, you will notice the game is nowhere near as physical. Less contact was allowed. Why don't the refs just call more fouls and allow less contact? Then maybe that could help things a bit.

    I don't see the need for eliminating the 3pt shot.

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    The NBA just has to realize that the games are going to be lower scoring. It's just the evolution of the sport. Teams in the '80s and before didn't play defense ... so unless they are going to ban defense all together, they aren't going to help scoring.

    Here's an idea: count twos as threes and threes as fours. That way the averages can get back into the 120s or whatever.


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    If they move back the line so that every player doesn't jack up 3's that might help. But I don't think they'd ever really do something like this.

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    Yeah move the line back to about 30 feet. Then I'd think I have a shot to make the NBA.


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    That is just dumb. Timvp is completely correct. Teams didn't play D back then. I prefer a good balance. I don't want to see run and gun with no D. I'm in the minority, I know.

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    The NBA is getting ridiculous. I know I'll probably get ridiculed for this but why not just adhere to the fiba rules. Or at least make and agreement with fiba so that there is a universal rules.

    Keep the defensive 3 seconds and various other rules by all means but abolish 3 point shooting. Stern is tripping. Thats the worst scenario possible.

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    Steve Kerr, who made a record 45 percent of the 3-pointers that he attempted in his career, said he supports the elimination of the long-range shot.
    The three-point made him millions of dollars. You'd think he'd be more loyal.

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    There was an article published where Manu was asked to answer 50 submitted questions and he ended up answering 100. One question asked was did he prefer FIBA rules or NBA rules. He said he'd like to see a mix of the two. It would be interesting to ask him what composite of rules he'd like to see and why. Might be interesting to ask Duncan too if he likes any of the international rules.

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    Might be interesting to ask Duncan too if he likes any of the international rules.
    He already answered that question.



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    "FIBA sucks" to be exact. So show him what Manu recommends and ask him to critique. A battle blog.

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    Got to admit it's an interesting idea, even though I don't agree with it. You'd end up with a bunch of specialists who only play in the last five minutes, and the only teams who'd probably use the three-pointer to any extent would be teams getting blown out.

    One problem, other than the lack of shooting skills, is that the court has gotten too small for today's players. I don't know if things like widening the lanes or even making the whole court bigger would make things better or worse.

    In terms of international play, maybe they could adopt some FIBA rules, but I think the FIBA 3-point line and goaltending rules suck.

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    I don't know if things like widening the lanes or even making the whole court bigger would make things better or worse.
    I've been calling for that for like seven years now. That would help make the game so much better. Widen the court five feet on either side and scoring would increase.

    The reason this doesn't get done is because it wipes out a lower level row in each arena in the NBA and we all know that league bows down to the Almighty Dallah.

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    I'm with Kerr! I think they should get rid of the 3pt shot completely!! The NBA has done a lot of crazy things in the past, but I agree with them on this one. There are many players that have no business taking 3pt shots.

    3pt shots taken by bad shooters= lots of misses
    losts of misses= low shooting %
    low shooting %= low scoring

    Now the NBA is letting highshool players into the league. Those same players want to be the hero, so they start shooting away! They don't know the basics, the fundamentals of the game. Maybe back in the days before the 3pt shot, defenses weren't that strong like today, but players were taking better and closer shots!

    I disagree with the poster that said Bowen will be hurt by this rule. Bowen is a great defensive player, so his presence is needed on the court. He also showed that he has an in between game, a little one hander he showed in the playoffs.

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    It would hurt players that's for sure. But it would also help raise their percentages of taking "normal" shots, instead of launching three after three, that is what ruined it. It was only used to get a team back into a game, not every single play it seems like lately.

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    I like the 3 just fine the way it is.

    The only change I would make is any shot from half-court or beyond should be worth at least 4. Shots from under the opposing basket (like the bomb Moses Malone hit in a Spurs uni...) should be 5.

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    "FIBA sucks" to be exact.
    Actually what I posted was the exact quote.

    So show him what Manu recommends and ask him to critique. A battle blog.
    Bring it.

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    Absolutely the stupidest idea Ive ever heard.

    Want to impove scoing? How about letting teams coach players intently in the offseason to help improve there shooting, instead of workouts being, "Voluntary".

    I like the idea of making the court bigger but like LJ said,

    with those front court seats, that sure as aint happenin.

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    check the stats...

    the teams that shot the most threes were the cellar dwellers...it was their only defense against the better teams in the NBA that were kicking their ass in the conventional half court team offense...I am too lazy to go find it but I saw the stats in the last couple of days on the teams that shot the most threes and NONE of them were real contenders...

    from the NBA's viewpoint eliminating 3's would be awful from the perspective of 2/3 of the teams in the league...

    but eliminating 3's in the DEVELOPMENTAL LEAGUE could eventually improve the overall level of skills in the players coming out of the minors...thus ultimately improving the skills in the "big league"...

    thats probably where they are going with that...

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    I like the 3 just fine the way it is.

    The only change I would make is any shot from half-court or beyond should be worth at least 4. Shots from under the opposing basket (like the bomb Moses Malone hit in a Spurs uni...) should be 5.

    Now, how would this improve scoring? How many times do you think players would be taking half court shots or be shooting from the opposite free throw line?

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    Welcome to the forum, rr2418.


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    Shooting 3's is like the long bomb in football. It's exciting to see, but if you keep using it, it's going to hurt you sooner or later! Besides, in football running and the short/medium passing game is the bread and butter of the game. In basketball, layups and 15-19 ft jummpers is what makes the scoring!

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    This is the dumbest idea the league's had since putting 8 swingmen and no point guard on the Olympic team.

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    Now, how would this improve scoring? How many times do you think players would be taking half court shots or be shooting from the opposite free throw line?
    Who gives a rats ass? I like the game the way it is. But every time I see someone drain one from beyond midcourt, I think...Damn, that should be a 4 pointer!

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