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this year?
Those of you who think he is the best coach period, offensively included.
Who had the better playoff roster to work with? And why?
Pop
AJ
Pat Riley
D' Antoni
Adleman
yes ducks, this year.
Last edited by Fabbs; 06-08-2006 at 11:20 PM.
this year?
Pop.
But if you're talking health-wise...Riley. Wade/Shaq were pretty healthy going in.
I can only assume by the le that this is supposed to be a "Pop had all the tools and still couldn't coach us to a win" type thread.
is this question only for people who think pop is the best coach period?
No actually it's done in the same spirit as conquesos thread about all the Pop Haters.
Altho yes, I indeed think Pop had the best lineup top to bottom and thereby got outcoached. Challenge anyone to tell me who had a better lineup. So far only ginobili_is_god thinks Pop did not have the best lineup.
Overall ready to play NBA playoffs as is. Such as Duncan. Screw what he had with his foot in the reg season. He rocked in the playoffs.
Wade was def not 100% tonight and the rest of the Heat lineup after Wade/Shaq being anywhere near the Spurs? Please.
That's not fair.
Avery is a good coach. But this series wasn't decided by Avery, he did pick out the weaknesses in the Spurs lineup...but our lineup was also banged up (Tim and TP) as well an assist from the zebra's.
TP was banged up because of Pops idiodic leaving him in clinched Game 6 in the late 3rd while up 20 points. Ron Artest was already himself injured, had the obvious look in his eye like "I'm off my meds and am looking to bodyslam the 1st Spur i get a chance to." Sure enough Parker drives the lane, gets slammed and reinjures his theigh/groin. What the was the meaningless layup supposed to mean? Very poor coaching.
Duncan banged up? C'mon he was good enough for 30/14.
Zebras? Oh yeah they handed Dirk Game 3. But why is it even that close a score? Only one game anyways. Pops no ball movement offense is pure crap.
If everyone is completely healthy then Pop had the best roster.
Again, if Manu doesnt foul, or he or Duncan make the possible game winner, no one is talking about getting outcoached. The PLAYERS had a shot to win game 7, and they didnt do what they had to do.
Period point blank.
I don't know, the Spurs had some pretty major holes (backup point, athletic 3s and 4s) and yet they were in pretty decent position in all the games (except game 2). If the Spurs hang on and win that series the storyline is what a good job Pop did adjusting, what a bold move it was to nail our bigs to the bench, etc. Instead since we lost (by the slimmest margins imaginable) the storyline is how weak Pop is, adjusting to the other team instead of forcing them to make the changes.
The reality is probably somewhere in between, like it always is. But then, that's not nearly as interesting...
It's the playoffs. You have to leave your guys in, leave nothing to doubt. You can't blame Artest being a jackass on Pop.
That's what scares me, if he went for 30/14 on a bum foot...imagine what he could've done if he had some lift? I can't wait until next year when he's full healthy.
No ball movement? Have you watched the Spurs in the past? If anything we OVER move the ball now, and don't get it into Tim enough. I wish we'd run 4 down and get the out of his way more often.
So you're saying who had the better rooster?
1. "Your guys" include your bench guys. You're doubting a 20 point lead with a little over a quarter to go and the heart of the Kings taken out with Artests twisted ankle? That is a major diss to your own bench people. Yes I can blame Pop and a-n-y coach for not being wary of Artest going off on one of your players. See 2003 replay of Game 6 vs Mavs and the Kerrminator. Pop had NO intention of putting him the game, it was injury to Tony and Speedy.
2. Get it to Tim more is fine. All 4 other players then standing around is dense, not brilliant. Also numerous times Tony crossed halfcourt quickly, then slowed his dribble to a snails pace and stayed in the same general place. Waited, took 6 more dribbles then launched a brick up. That is piss poor offensive strategy. No chance for O rebound, plus all it does and did is allow the Dallas D to rest.
I got owned on that one.
Everyone, please listen to this man. He's kicking the science like KRS-One. I agree completely. The plays earn the big bucks to execute down the stretch. The Spurs players, their star players, had opportunities to get it done in about three games, but just couldn't. Props to Dallas for taking advantage. See you next season.
The ing idiots around here just won't quit with the IQ-30 threads...
[From]a Chicago Tribune columnist: "I've bounced around the playoffs and have seen most of the teams in person, and the best team I've seen is the Spurs. They just didn't win. It happens."
(Buck Harvey 6/04/2006)
I think our roster is as good as anyone's. But I also think that having the best roster only matters in power rankings. You play one team at a time, and either you beat them or you go home. If you don't match up well enough for that team, it doesn't matter if you could have buried every other team in the league.
We had serious matchup problems with the Mavs. That wouldn't have changed if we had played Nazr "The Dirkstopper" Mohammed.
I agree. Because of the matchup problems, Mavs were a deeper team.
Just look at the points: currently, the Mavs have 4 players making couble digits in the playoffs, and one not far behind:
Dirk 27.7 ppg, Terry 18.6 ppg, Howard 17 ppg, Stackhouse 13.9, Harris 9.6.
Spurs in playoffs: Tim 25.8 ppg, Tony 21.1, Manu 18.4, Finley 10.5.
Now, it's true that the Spurs avg. ppg is actually higher than the Mavs (103.1 vs 101.8), so that obviously doesn't tell the whole story, but my point is, AJ did not beat us with a bunch of scrubs.
The sooner Spurs fans recognize we got beat closely by a very good team that will probably beat the Heat in 6 or less, the better off they'll be.
Obviously, when we ge beat, there is a tendency to blame something: the Coach, the players, the refs, luck, the weathe...
Bottom line: Mavs are the best team this year, and the Spurs almost beat them. Be proud, Spurs fans.
Pop had the best roster, but unfortunetly he choose to play HITA NVE, nothing left in the tank Horry and cool as ice Barry way too much. I just wish Pop would have lengthened his roster to at least 10 and benched NVE. Play both bigs alittle and Beno instead of the no defense offenese re er NVE.
But even so, the players mainly Manu, Berry and Horry pissed away 3 ing games.
So far only two votes from the entire board that say a coach other then Pop had the better lineup.
2 votes for AJ
1 ginobili_is_god AJ had the best group of guys...they are solid in every aspect of the game.
2 MadDog73 AJ had better lineup.
3 non votes that are saying health. Look the vote is for as the teams were healthwise.
1 Please_dont_ban_me Pop or Riley? You need to pick one. Teams as is, no what if health stuff.
2 Dre_7 also playing the health card. The vote is as the teams were.
3 GrandeDavid
3 non votes with commentary.
GhostofAlfrederickHughes
Winnipeg_Spur
For you ones who say we would have been singing Pops praises if at the end of Game 7 GNob had not have fouled or the refs not have hozed Timmy at the end, in a word no. To me the score should not have been that close, altho Game 7 yes is a GNob blunder no doubt. Gnob do not leave the game up to incompetent or paid off refs. Pop warned in the timeout preceding.
strangeweather are you saying it was a tie?
1 vote for help
travis2 attempting to grow spine, can we pitch in and donate towards spinal surgery? Welcome to rejoin thread and vote if grown.
Last edited by Fabbs; 06-09-2006 at 10:21 AM.
thispego asks "is this question only for people who think pop is the best coach period?"
No! Anyone can vote.
If you think the Spurs had the best roster, by all means vote.*
*Women of C.H.E.S.T. and/or Hooters Girls may be coming by your neighborhood with van to transport voters to and from polls.
Last edited by Fabbs; 06-09-2006 at 10:38 AM.
Head to head, they had the better roster -- that's pretty much what matchup problems mean.
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