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Uh...I guess Hamas has never killed innocent Israelies?? Hamas ONLY targets civilians. I guess the thousands of deal citizens of Israel should be compensated as well huh??
Seriously... WTF! This is not something the Israeli government should be able fix with an "oops... sorry"! There better be some big mother ing compensation for the family members.Truce called off
The announcement comes a day after Hamas' military wing promised a resumption of attacks against Israel after a hiatus of more than a year. A leaflet issued by the Izzedine al Qassam Brigades said seven rockets were shot at Israel on Friday. On Saturday, the Israeli military confirmed 11 rocket launches into Israel from Gaza.
Hamas' action was prompted by a string of Israeli attacks, including an artillery s blast that killed at least seven Palestinians picnicking on a northern Gaza beach on Friday.
The killings sparked swift and sustained outrage in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere; Israel Defense Forces has halted firing pending an investigation. (Watch Israeli and Palestinian forces square off -- 1:20)
In his Saturday speech, Abbas condemned the beach incident as a "de able massacre ... the Israeli artillery was aimed at children, women -- innocent children and women who were sitting on the seashore, on the sea beach having fun on a normal weekend.
"Yesterday, a whole family was murdered, all its members, by the Israeli Defense Forces," Abbas said.
Israeli Chief of General Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz said the military was investigating the possibility that it was not naval artillery that struck the Palestinians on the Gaza beach.
The IDF said earlier it had been firing on rocket-launching areas in Gaza after a militant attack earlier in the day. The target areas were believed to be uninhabited, a representative said.
The Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported IDF had apologized for the beach killings, saying it "regretted the strike on innocents."
Also Saturday, clashes erupted in Gaza City between Fatah and Hamas, Palestinian security sources said.
There were no reports of casualties, but the convoy of Rashid Abu Shbak was fired on during the funeral of an officer who was killed, sources said. Shbak heads three Palestinian services: Internal security, preventive security and the fire department.
Uh...I guess Hamas has never killed innocent Israelies?? Hamas ONLY targets civilians. I guess the thousands of deal citizens of Israel should be compensated as well huh??
yes because that makes everything alright right?? this isn't a sport jackass! its not about wether Hamas kills civilians or not, I don't support Hamas, but this is unnacceptable! Why the is that so hard to understand for you people!!
They've been fighting for 1500 years, what makes you think a cease fire is going to ever hold up?its not about wether Hamas kills civilians or not, I don't support Hamas, but this is unnacceptable! Why the is that so hard to understand for you people!!
I was just hoping the situation today would have been a bit more civilized than it was 1500 years ago. Killing women a children is not the sign of a civilized people, wether you do it with a car bomb, or a s ing.
not really...
terrorism and fighting started with Jews coming back to their promised land and forming a state of Israel.
I am disappointed, but not shocked. This waxing and waning of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is normal. Faith is really the only way to believe this conflict is ever going to be solved without some form of genocide.
Both sides, and their leaders, must grow tired with hating each other. I'm not sure, without more bloodshed, that type of understanding can truly be reached. In short, they have to want peace, want peace so badly that a suicide bomber doesn't restart a conflict and break down peace plans.
Anyone who think religion doesn't have an evil side - take a look at the history of this conflict. Both groups believe this piece of land was given to them from on high. And when absolute right, when God stands on both sides, who can be against? It's real estate agents with missile capacity and assumed spiritual authority.
Last edited by Darrin; 06-10-2006 at 03:05 PM.
In a repbulic-democracy the people vote in repositivies and those people make and put in policies of the people. In a dicatorship the dude does whatever he wants. Thefore because the politians are just acting out the will of the people. The people are the ones makeing decsions on what to do. If a dictator does something it is invaild to go after citzens because they aren't responsible for the actions of the government. However, because the USA and iseral are ruled by their people. IT is perfectly vaild to go after the people supporting the policies. If you are againts the policies. Remember it isn;t the iserally government or US government killing inccoent people. It is the USA citzens (or majority that voted them into office.) So not every citzen is a innocent one. If they decided to put a policy in place and people don;t like that policy. They have to take responsibility that actions have consquences.
The problem is the radislamists want the whole world to go back to the way it was 1500 years ago. You're going to be wishing for modern civilization a long time if they're involved.I was just hoping the situation today would have been a bit more civilized than it was 1500 years ago
Read some more history books. Muslims have been fighting non-Muslims since Mohammed founded his religion 'of peace' one fateful day a loooooong time ago.not really...
terrorism and fighting started with Jews coming back to their promised land and forming a state of Israel.
I guess Muslims raiding Christian and Jewish settlements and cutting peoples' heads off back in the Crusades, etc. doesn't qualify as terrorism?
Never said it was a sport dip . Where is the outrage everytime Hamas strikes?? Also, I wouldn't be so quick to accept the report as being true.
well it just eludes me how the you can hear about 11 innocent people being killed including women and children, and not give a . I assume you don't give a since you're already making excuses for it. Are you that ing jaded??
Well, Palestine has a democratically elected government, and they have democratically elected Hamas, who swears to destroy Israel.
So by your logic, the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians is OK.
yes, but was the killing done by the palestinian goverment?
please give me event names, places, dates to those masacres - enlighten me.
jews and orthodox christians were mostly killed by christians in the crusades.
Well, yes, Hamas is the government of Palestine.
I agree the palestine PEOPLE have to accept by freeely electing hamas that the US and euro countries woudl DENEY them AID MONEY.
elections have consquences deal with it.
touche...
Well said Darrin.
The Palenstinian and Israeli governments are both terrorist organizations... it's just that one of them has been outfitted with tanks and nukes.
actually before they went back there were Jewish Terrorists.
So is it this particular instance thats pissed you off so much you thought you would post about it? Why are you not posting on a daily basis about the daily slaughter of Iraqi civilians by insurgents?
I am not making any excuses. That whole section of the world is ed up and the killings have been going on for a long time. Its hard to give a when nobody over their wants change. I mean how many years does it take to get a handle on the situation??
Here's the video from al-Jazeera of the massacre. Be forewarned it's a horrible sight, with the dozens of bodies... almost entirely women and children. I could barely handle it as a little Palestinian girl stricken with grief was barely able to follow the director's instructions as she cried out for her father. When will the world learn, there will be no peace until there are no more Jooooooooooooos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WaCJn4hdjc
Last edited by Gerryatrics; 06-11-2006 at 10:56 AM.
Surrounded by Countries that deny your very right to exist and defending your people from annihilation equates to being a terrorist organization?
That's a mind-numbing charge.
Again, as Jack Kelly so aptly pointed out when talking about our military and I'll add Israel, these incidents are routinely described as "massacres," a term journalists don't use when insurgents bomb a mosque or a marketplace.
Unlike the Palestinians and Hamas, Israel wasn't targeting civilians, the artillery s s fired were "in response to rising Palestinian rocket fire into Israel". I put the deaths at the squarely at the feet of the Palestinian terrorists. No rocket fire into Israel = no misguided artillery fired in response = no civilian deaths.
VERY well put! For every action, there is a reaction over there. Stop ing with Israel and you wont have them retaliating.
Our own State Department reports on countless violations of human rights by the Israeli government that put them right up there with China. However, when it comes to China we argue for non inclusion in the WTO and the like, but with Isreal we supply them with the nessecary goods to run not only their military but their entire country. We are the Israeli economy.
There is no place for the United States in this conflict any longer. Israel doesn't listen to us, they do what they want and they make things worse much of the time. The very existance of Israel is a very questionable thing yet no one ever thinks about that when questioning why countries have sworn for the destruction of their state.
Who here would support the UN coming in and taking a chunk out of America and granting it to Native Americans in order for them to establish a sovriegn nation? Would you support that for the victims of a genocide Joch? Would you aruge the extermination of the Native Americans was any different than what occured in the Holocaust?
Much in the world is decided by the people who have the power to impliment what they want done. There is no right or wrong in the world, just what you can do and get away with. At this point, America pulling its money out of Israel would provide a good deal of needed humility to that side of the conflict. Let the fight even out, and then lets see how long it takes them to come to a working solution. As long as Israel gets whatever it wants from the United States without having to make any real concessions of substance you can forget about having any peace in the region. The attacks will continue untill both sides really inflict mind numbing pain on each other. Good riddance to both of these nations. Let them all fight over meaningless dirt.
Men of faith should understand that no Gods kingdom is in this world, holy land or not.
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