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    Anyone here on cholestoral lowering drugs? Have you dug into the controversy over these drugs? They are crippling and maiming good people all for the good of the drug companies. Side effects of these drugs include muscle damage and memory loss. Go to Google and enter..."lipitor controversy". How do I know this? I was on Lipitor for two weeks until I decided to do some research. As of yesterday, I no longer take this medicine. Be careful as all cardiologists are poised to dispense this medicine even to those with no cardiac symptoms. This will end up one day much like the Enron issue. Until then, many people who trust their doctors, will suffer the consequences. "Pfizer" be damned!

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    The side effects of statin drugs are known... in a lot of cases the risk is far outweighed by the benefits.

    The marketing wings of these pharma companies though want doctors to dispense statins like they are aspirin or something.

    Be wary Big Pharma. Bayer already got whacked over this.

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    Go to Google and look up "high cholesterol" and find out the side effects of that.

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    Or go to google and try aspirin side effects. All drugs have some
    side effects, some very serious, some not so serious. Lawyers
    are like vultures waiting until someone has one and then it's off
    to court. In some cases they are the cause some very good drugs
    have been removed from the market. You are smart to check your
    drugs, but discuss it with your doctor (primary) and cardiologists
    before you go off the deep end. They do test you know and any
    side effects you might have discuss with them. Don't be stupid.

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    Yes, you should have been advised about potential side effects and how to monitor for them at the time the drug was prescribed. If you weren't, then the doc dropped the ball.

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    SO because you can google something, you are going to take that as gospel? The best way to go about it is to discuss it with your doctor and a pharmacist. You have to weigh the risks vs. benefits of every therapy.

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    SO because you can google something, you are going to take that as gospel? The best way to go about it is to discuss it with your doctor and a pharmacist. You have to weigh the risks vs. benefits of every therapy.
    No...I don't take Google as gospel! I have some relatives who are nurses and very aware of the dangers in these drugs. That is what put me on the trail. When I asked my doctor about the controversy surrounding Lipitor, he said he wasn't aware of any. This would likely be the response of a stockholder. Again, before you go on these drugs, do some research. I can also tell you that after obstaining for a day, I already feel better. Those that trust doctors blindly without research are doomed for early death! Are you on these drugs and are you a stockholder?

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    You wouldn't believe the perks some doctors get from drug reps. I have been on several guided fishing trips to the coast with doctor friends where the pharmaceutical reps picked up the whole tab including hotel and meals...I saw one rep drop probably $15,000 in one weekend. Doctors are people too and like that can subconsciously make them shade the risks...

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    Are you on these drugs and are you a stockholder?
    My husband is on those drugs. No I am not a stockholder. My mother is a nurse anesthetist. My sister is an MD. I have a BS in chemistry and put myself through college working as a pharmacy tech in a hospital. We researched the risks vs. benefits for my husband's case and determined they were best for him. Without the statins his cholesterol was over 270 and his triglycerides were 600. Now his cholesterol is around 170 and his triglycerides are around 150. I hope that answers all your questions.

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    You wouldn't believe the perks some doctors get from drug reps. I have been on several guided fishing trips to the coast with doctor friends where the pharmaceutical reps picked up the whole tab including hotel and meals...I saw one rep drop probably $15,000 in one weekend. They pay for cruises, ski trips, etc. all the time...Doctors are people too and like that can subconsciously make them shade the risks...
    BTW, I am not saying all doctors do this. I also have doctor friends that won't accept ANY gifts or perks from drug reps to avoid any possibility of potential conflict of interest.

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    My husband is on those drugs. No I am not a stockholder. My mother is a nurse anesthetist. My sister is an MD. I have a BS in chemistry and put myself through college working as a pharmacy tech in a hospital. We researched the risks vs. benefits for my husband's case and determined they were best for him. Without the statins his cholesterol was over 270 and his triglycerides were 600. Now his cholesterol is around 170 and his triglycerides are around 150. I hope that answers all your questions.
    mmmmmm...hot AND smart. I am definitely in love.

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    BTW, I am not saying all doctors do this. I also have doctor friends that won't accept ANY gifts or perks from drug reps to avoid any possibility of potential conflict of interest.
    Hey, I'm glad I'm not a doctor because that would be some tough stuff to turn down.

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    mmmmmm...hot AND smart. I am definitely in love.
    Don't forget OLD.

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    Don't forget OLD.


    I prefer to call it "experienced"...

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    My husband is on those drugs. No I am not a stockholder. My mother is a nurse anesthetist. My sister is an MD. I have a BS in chemistry and put myself through college working as a pharmacy tech in a hospital. We researched the risks vs. benefits for my husband's case and determined they were best for him. Without the statins his cholesterol was over 270 and his triglycerides were 600. Now his cholesterol is around 170 and his triglycerides are around 150. I hope that answers all your questions.
    Thank you 2 Blonde ! Your description sort of describes the problem. Your husband's cholesteral was over 270 and mine was 170. I can see why he was prescribed statins but not me. Does he ever experience leg cramps? How long has he been on them now? What is his age? When you say you researched the risks vs. benefits, did you consider natural products such as red yeast rice? In my opinion, these statins are just flat out dangerous. I might also mention that I had just had a heart cath done and no blockage was found. Just narrowing of the arteries due to smoking for 47 years. I am 66 years old and the cardiologist said I have never had a heart attack and am in very good shape for my age. Needless to say, I don't smoke anymore! Again, thanks for your reply!

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    My husband is just about to turn 45. He was about 42 when he went on the statins. Yes we tried natural alternatives first but they weren't enough. Also he works out once or twice a day. He's very physically fit. It's just the cholesterol and the fact that he has some problems with kidney function.

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    My husband is just about to turn 45. He was about 42 when he went on the statins. Yes we tried natural alternatives first but they weren't enough. Also he works out once or twice a day. He's very physically fit. It's just the cholesterol and the fact that he has some problems with kidney function.
    Thanks for the info...I am curious whether or not he had these kidney problems before the statins. That was also one of my problems with them. As far as the cholesteral goes, I realize that a person can't eat oatmeal the rest of their lives, but it really helps. Good luck to you and your husband!

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    Hook, you shouldn't have been on statins with 170 cholesterol. It sounds like your doc may be a bit of a crook.

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    Hook, you shouldn't have been on statins with 170 cholesterol. It sounds like your doc may be a bit of a crook.
    Usually prescribed to individuals who have a cholesterol >200.

    Either way it is an adjunct to other treatments.

    When taking Lipitor avoid grapefruit juice like the plague.

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    Usually prescribed to individuals who have a cholesterol >200.

    Either way it is an adjunct to other treatments.

    When taking Lipitor avoid grapefruit juice like the plague.
    Yeah Ga a.....that was another thing that pissed me off! I love grapefruit juice! Waiting for a few days for the lipitor to clear my system so I can resume drinking it. LOL

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    Hook, you shouldn't have been on statins with 170 cholesterol. It sounds like your doc may be a bit of a crook.
    I can understand you saying that but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He is a very good cardiologist and after me bucking him on it, he backed down and we agreed that I would discontinue it's use! I am only taking 5mg Altace now. It has dropped my blood pressure to 120/70. Just where I want to be. None of this is to be taken lightly. I have done the homework on all of this in the last few months and my body has been run through the ringer. At least we know that I have a strong heart and don't really have any danger of strokes. I have been checked by a neurologist also. I really posted all of this in case others have been prescribed statins and need to know the facts.

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    Do you live in SA or Houston? I don't have much respect for the practice of cardiology in SA.

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    I live in San Antonio Stout!

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    The Texas Heart Ins ute at St. Luke's in Houston is where it's at for cardiology in TX.

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    The Texas Heart Ins ute at St. Luke's in Houston is where it's at for cardiology in TX.
    I was in St. Lukes here in San Antonio. They , along with Methodist are best equipped to handle heart problems. My cardiologist was out of town when I had to go to the Hospital for transient ischemic attacks. That was sunday before Memorial day. They did the heart cath on Memorial day and it was done by Dr. Bucay. I would recommend him to anyone. He did a fantastic job.

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