I don't think the spurs have that much money to re-sign Parker because they are capped out, I know they have bird rights, but to re-sign him, the spurs will have to go over the cap, Holt will not pay any luxury tax, according to his own words.
I think Parker might leave next year.
Just my two cents.
You must be Lakers Fan, what the do you care if Parker re-signs?
Why don't you just stick that asterisk up in your ass....take it out ...and eat it.
Fakers will become Spur's es and Spurs will be the favorite to win the le for the next couple of years, so don't worry we'll gladly give you the asterisk each time we win a le so that you can perform the same procedure as above.
from The Insider Chad Ford's take on next year's FA
Thursday, July 22, 2004
By Chad Ford
ESPN Insider
For those of you who believe that the NBA summer spending spree is about to end now that almost all of the top free agents are locked up -- think again. Lost in the midst of the flurry of signings and trades over the past week was a quiet six-year, $37 million contract extension for Shane Battier.
Battier, the sixth pick in the 2001 draft, will be the first in a long line of third-year veterans looking to cash in this summer before the current collective bargaining agreement goes away. Fears that contracts will become more restrictive, with fewer guaranteed years and smaller max ceilings, along with fears that the luxury-tax threshold may become smaller, are forcing agents into action.
"I think it behooves everyone to get something done now," Battier's agent, Lon Babby, told Insider. "For the player, it may give them their last chance at a long, guaranteed contract. For teams, it may be their last poker chip to lock-up a guy they want long term."
"I think players really want the security," agent Marc Cornstein, who represents Samuel Dalembert, told Insider. "I think, for the teams, there's some concern about the number of teams that could be far enough under the cap next season to make a substantial offer."
The Hawks, Bobcats, Bulls, Cavs, Warriors, Clippers, Nets, Blazers, Sonics and Wizards could all be potentially far enough under the cap next season to make a max contract offer to a player. However, the Bulls, Warriors, Nets, Sonics and Wizards could end up using most of that space to extend their own players before they hit restricted free agency.
Teams have until Oct. 29 to extend the contracts of players picked in the first round of 2001 draft. Typically, a couple from an eligible draft class receive max contract extensions, and several others receive healthy six-year deals.
Last summer, only three players from the class of 2000, Mike Miller, Desmond Mason and Jamaal Magloire, received long-term extensions. In each case, the contracts they signed were for slightly more than the mid-level exception. However, that draft class was considered especially weak. To date only one player, No. 1 pick Kenyon Martin, has received a max contract out of the class.
Two summers ago, by way of comparison, three players -- Steve Francis, Baron Davis and Shawn Marion -- got max extensions. Four others -- Wally Szczerbiak, Ron Artest, Jonathan Bender and Jeff Foster -- got significant long-term contracts.
During the summer of 2001, four players received max extensions -- Antawn Jamison, Vince Carter, Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Pierce. Three others -- Jason Williams, Michael erson and Al Harrington -- garnered long-term deals.
But that's not even the entire story. Several of the players from the draft classes of 1999 and 1998 held out for richer deals and got them in restricted free agency after their fourth seasons.
Last summer, 1999 draftees Elton Brand, Richard Hamilton, Lamar Odom, Jason Terry, Andre Miller, Corey Maggette, James Posey and Kenny Thomas nailed down long-term deals.
Two years ago, 1998 alumni Mike Bibby, Raef LaFrentz, Larry Hughes, Bonzi Wells, Matt Harpring and Ricky Davis got their money.
Who's likely to get an extension this fall? Insider did some snooping around and identified a number of players with a good chance of getting an extension. For the rest of the class, they'll be looking at restricted free agency next summer.
Taking it to the max?
Andrei Kirilenko, F, Utah Jazz
Kirilenko
Last year's stats: 16.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 2.8 bpg
The skinny: Kirilenko was actually drafted in the class of 1999, but he didn't start his NBA career until 2001. Kirilenko has emerged as one of the most versatile players in the game. Last season, he ranked fourth in the league in the plus/minus stat behind just Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan and Shaquille O'Neal. He does a little bit of everything for the Jazz and, at the age of just 23, continues to improve each season. He even made the All-Star team last year. He's the Jazz's best rebounder, shot blocker, defensive player and his offense continues to emerge. Losing him would be devastating to the franchise. He's the one Utah player with superstar potential. His agent will be looking for a max-type deal to keep Kirilenko in Utah. Given the fact that GM Kevin O'Connor paid Carlos Boozer six years, $68 million and Mehmet Okur six years, $50 million, will he be able to argue?
Zach Randolph, PF, Blazers
Randolph
Last year's stats: 20.1 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 48 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Randolph was amazingly consistent last season. He ended up ranked sixth in the league in rebounding and 17th in the league in points last year. That's not too shabby for a 23-year-old power forward playing significant minutes for the first time in his career. While the Blazers still have some concerns about his maturity, there's no question that he's turning into one of the most devastating low-post scorers in the game. If Kenyon Martin can get the max averaging 16.7 ppg and 9.5 rpg -- how can you deny Randolph? The Blazers love him, though they are obsessed with clearing cap room and may wait until next summer to cut him a check.
Pau Gasol, PF, Grizzlies
Gasol
Last year's stats: 17.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 48 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Gasol's numbers were slightly down last season, but that had more to do with Hubie Brown's deep rotation than it had to do with talent. Gasol continues to make improvements on the court. He's gotten stronger, more aggressive in the paint and came up big for the Grizzlies in their playoff series with the Spurs, averaging a team-high 18.5 ppg. The Grizzlies still have some questions about the 24-year-old Spaniard. He's still not a good defender and needs to get stronger, but, in another few years, he should be bulked up enough to play center. When he does, he'll be one of the best in the game. Given the current market, Gasol, too, is probably a max player, though that may be unlikely given the Grizzlies' current cap woes. If he got a Carlos Boozer-type deal, he'd probably be happy.
Still a big deal
Tony Parker, PG, Spurs
Parker
Last year's stats: 14.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 45 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Parker's a little tougher to figure. He was magnificent in the Spurs' first playoff series versus the Grizzlies, averaging 21 ppg and 8 apg. He cooled off considerably versus the Lakers once they ramped up the intensity of their defense. But overall, Parker is the best young point guard prospect in the NBA. He's just 22-years-old, has a championship ring and the ability to do just about whatever he wants on the court. Given what Steve Nash pulled down with the Suns, it's not out of the question for Parker to be looking for a max-type deal. Had he been in this year's free-agent class, the Clippers, Hawks, Jazz and Bobcats all may have thrown max deals his way based on his age, potential and experience. Point guard is one of the hardest positions in the league to fill and Parker's got the chance to be great. With that said, the Spurs, who are more financially conservative than most, will be reluctant to pay him that. Coach Gregg Popovich has a love-hate relationship with Parker. A seven-year, $70 million contract (ie. Mike Bibby money) might be more realistic if he wants to get locked up now. Otherwise, he'll be one of the hottest free agents on the market next summer.
Samuel Dalembert, C, Sixers
Dalembert
Last year's stats: 8 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 2.3 bpg, 54 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Look past the marginal season numbers to what Dalembert did the last month of the season, when he was given real minutes. His 12.3 ppg, 12.4 rpg and jaw-dropping 4.4 bpg were down right amazing for a kid who was, essentially, in his rookie season last year. Dalembert, who just turned 23, really got his groove on as the season progressed and the Sixers know they have something special. Teams have been ringing Billy King's phone off the hook this summer in an attempt to land the 6-foot-11 Haitian. While you can make all the caveats you want about how raw he is, his history of injuries and his lack of inexperience, ask yourself . . . if Adonal Foyle can get a contract starting at $6.5 million and Mehmet Okur can grab one at $6.6 -- what should Dalemebert's contract look like? He outplayed both of them last year and he has much more upside. If the Sixers don't pay, someone else will next summer. Good, young, athletic centers don't come onto the market every day.
Richard Jefferson, SF, Nets
Jefferson
Last year's stats: 18.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 49 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Jefferson is on the verge of becoming a star, and the Nets have to lock him up this summer to avoid what happened with Kenyon Martin a few weeks ago. Last summer, the team balked at paying Martin the max and decided to take their chances in restricted free agency. Martin got a huge offer sheet from the Nuggets, including a whopping $15 million signing bonus, and the Nets were forced to agree to a sign-and-trade after they determined they couldn't match. They can't let the same thing happen to Jefferson. The team has already stated it wants to build around him. But will Bruce Ratner, who's getting the rep as a cheapskate, really pay him the cash? Jefferson holds all the leverage here. The Nets have to re-sign him. Jefferson, on the other hand, is probably better served looking elsewhere next summer given the decline of the team. It may cost the team near-max dollars to keep him.
Eddy Curry, C, Bulls
Curry
Last year's stats: 14.7 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 49 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Bulls fans are rolling their eyes right about now. How can Curry, who has been the definition of inconsistency throughout his short career, really warrant a big contract extension? He doesn't. But that doesn't change the fact that most teams see Curry's size, age and ability to score with his back to the basket and start feeling faint. Even though he doesn't rebound, doesn't play defense and seems to struggle with his conditioning, teams will always overpay for a big guy. When the big guy is just 21, 6-foot-11, weighs 285 pounds and can run the floor -- they'll really overpay. Again, look at the comps. Foyle and Okur both got deals that averaged more than $8 million per season with smaller numbers than what Curry put up in Chicago last season. In fact, his numbers in April, 18.5 ppg and 7 rpg, were nearing the impressive level. The word is Curry, who obviously knows he's in a contract year, is getting in shape and playing basketball every day this summer. If he blows up, the Bulls are on the hook for the max. If they lock him up now, maybe a seven-year, $60 to $65 million contract will get it done.
Mid-level or more?
Kwame Brown, F/C, Wizards
Brown
Last year's stats: 10.9 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 48 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: The former No. 1 pick had his moments last year. He averaged a career-high 13.7 ppg in January, but slipped off a bit in February and March despite the fact that his minutes actually went up. Brown is an enigma. He has the body and talent to be a superstar. Does he have the head and the heart? The Wizards still aren't sure. The fear, from Washington's side, is that he blows up this year and they're forced to offer him a huge contract. If they lock him up now, he'd have to be much more reasonable -- maybe somewhere in the six years, $50 million range. Brown is gambling too. If he stinks again this year, his value will begin to plummet.
Joe Johnson, G/F, Suns
Johnson
Last year's stats: 16.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.4 apg, 43 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Once Stephon Marbury was sent packing, Johnson took his place as Phoenix's go-to scorer in the backcourt, and he put up impressive numbers the rest of the season. He averaged 17.9 ppg, 5 rpg and 5.4 apg after the All-Star break and started to signs that he could be a future All-Star. So why is he lumped with the rest of these guys? Two things plague Johnson. One, he's still very inconsistent. In April alone he had five games in which he shot under 35 percent from the field. The Suns claim that they love him, but the fact that they signed Quentin Richardson to an offer sheet is telling. One, they think he'll be looking for much more money than they're willing to pay. Two, they have some questions about his work ethic and his ability to focus during the game. If he were willing to agree to Q numbers -- six years, $45 million -- they'd lock him up in heart beat. If he wants considerably more (and there are signs he does), the Suns will probably try to trade him this summer to a team more willing to take the financial hit.
Jason Richardson, SG, Warriors
Richardson
Last year's stats: 18.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 44 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Richardson improved in almost every aspect of his game last season. He improved his scoring, mid-range shot and willingness to put the ball on the floor and get to the line. For much of the season, he was the team's most consistent scoring option. He's an excellent rebounder for a guard. Here's the problem. There aren't a lot of teams that will pay big money for a two guard who can't shoot the 3 (28 percent last season) and won't play good defense. With second-year guard Mickael Pietrus in the fold, it's conceivable that the Warriors will wait until next summer and take their chances there. Then again, with Dan ***an representing him, that could turn out very messy for the Warriors.
Vladimir Radmanovic, F, Sonics
Radmanovic
Last year's stats: 12 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 43 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Radmanovic had his best season ever for the Sonics last season, but the truth is he's playing out of position and wants a change of scenery if he can get it. Realistically, Radmanovic is worth something above the mid-level, but given his role in the Sonics' system, they won't see it that way. Look for his agent to make big demands salary-wise. If the Sonics don't cave (they probably won't), there will be a strong push to finally get him traded while there's still a shot at getting some value back in return for him.
Throw me a bone
Tyson Chandler, F/C, Bulls
Chandler
Last year's stats: 6.1 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 42 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Back problems kept Chandler on the shelf for much of the season. When he's healthy, he's shown he can be an aggressive rebounder. However, offensively he's still very raw. The back thing is also an enormous concern. Chandler still has great potential, but he's got to stay healthy all season and improve his offense to get anything more than some mid-level love next season. Don't look for either side to cut a deal this summer. Chandler wants a chance to prove himself and earn more cash, and the Bulls want a chance to trade him if he does. Neither is possible if the two sides come to a contract agreement.
Troy Murphy, PF, Warriors
Murphy
Last year's stats: 10 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 44 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: He's coming off a pretty tough year in which a "stress reaction" in his right ankle limited him to 28 games. The lackluster season was a blow to Murphy, who put up very solid numbers (11.7 ppg, 10.2 rpg) during his sop re season. With Erick Dampier likely out, there will be a great opportunity for Murphy to redeem himself next season. As it stands now, his value isn't much higher than the mid-level. If he can duplicate his sop re season, however, he too could see a flood of cash roll his direction next summer.
Jason Collins, C, Nets
Collins
Last year's stats: 5.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 42 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: He's been solid for the Nets the past couple of seasons, but still hasn't broken out the way the Nets or everyone else thought he might. He's a good back-up center who's been forced into a starting role because of the Nets' lack of depth. With Serbian center Nenad Kristic coming to New Jersey this year, his minutes could take a hit. Because of Collins' size and relative durability, someone will give him a contract. However, the full mid-level is a stretch at this point.
Jamaal Tinsley, PG, Pacers
Tinsley
Last year's stats: 8.8 ppg, 5.3 apg, 41 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Tinsley had an up-and-down season for the Pacers. While he dramatically improved his 3-point shooting, his assist numbers were at an all-time low and his performance in the playoffs, especially against the Pistons, left a lot to be desired. The Pacers are still out there looking for another point guard, which is telling. While he should be able to secure a nice deal based on comps like Rafer Alston (5 years, $21) and Troy Hudson (6 years, $38 million), it's not a given the Pacers will actually pay him.
Wait until next year: DeSagana Diop, C, Cavs; Brendan Haywood, C, Wizards; Primoz Brezec, C, Bobcats; Kedrick Brown, G/F, Sixers
Still a big deal
Tony Parker, PG, Spurs
Parker
Last year's stats: 14.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 45 percent shooting from the field
The skinny: Parker's a little tougher to figure. He was magnificent in the Spurs' first playoff series versus the Grizzlies, averaging 21 ppg and 8 apg. He cooled off considerably versus the Lakers once they ramped up the intensity of their defense. But overall, Parker is the best young point guard prospect in the NBA. He's just 22-years-old, has a championship ring and the ability to do just about whatever he wants on the court. Given what Steve Nash pulled down with the Suns, it's not out of the question for Parker to be looking for a max-type deal. Had he been in this year's free-agent class, the Clippers, Hawks, Jazz and Bobcats all may have thrown max deals his way based on his age, potential and experience. Point guard is one of the hardest positions in the league to fill and Parker's got the chance to be great. With that said, the Spurs, who are more financially conservative than most, will be reluctant to pay him that. Coach Gregg Popovich has a love-hate relationship with Parker. A seven-year, $70 million contract (ie. Mike Bibby money) might be more realistic if he wants to get locked up now. Otherwise, he'll be one of the hottest free agents on the market next summer.
The Spurs will go over the cap to sign Parker. He deserves a maximum contract.
The Spurs will go over the cap to sign Parker. He deserves a maximum contract.
I love Parker but he in no way deserves a MAX contract. You saying he is as much value as Duncan? Kobe? Webber (I guess)? KG?
No way.....
k-martin got the max basically
tp deserves the max
point guards are hard to come by
tp is the best point gard ever to wear the silver and black
I don't see him getting it. I just don't.
A Bibby type deal I can see, but in no way does he deserve the max.
tony deserves more than manu
But over 10 mil a year is probably not justified this year.
Now,
if he scores 18-20 a game with 6+ assists next year, he will get the max probably from other teams, and we are screwed.
So, if he doesn't sign this off season for 10 mill or less for 6 years, we are taking a risk, but so is he; the cba will probably make him take a shorter contract, and thus less guranteed money, and would be a risk for him too.
I think Tony will get more than Manu, but not the max, and I think it will be done by the end of August, probably before.
some people here are just flat stupidI don't think the spurs have that much money to re-sign Parker because they are capped out, I know they have bird rights, but to re-sign him, the spurs will have to go over the cap, Holt will not pay any luxury tax, according to his own words.
The Spurs routinly go over the cap. There is a difference in going over the cap and going like 10 million over into Lux tax land
The Lux tax may not even be around according to rumors when the new CBA is put in place.
all forums do not have all knowledable fans
not this forum
The Contract will be around 70 millions by 7 years
With Larry Bird Rights is a contract around 7,5 by the first year
The fact is SA can resigns him right before this year season begins by 70 and probably Tony must to sign it
Probably Tony is a so big player, but for me, is now less than Steve Nash, and more than 70 millions is too much for an very inconsistent player, who canīt play consistent D, and needs a consistent backup
One game he deserves a maximum and the other he deserves a kick in his ass
His deffense isnīt enough for a maximum contract, he isnīt a league leader in any statistic, his best is #16 in assits
If Tony were consistent we would not need a consistent reserve PG
spurs do nto need a consistent reserver
and daniles bailed out nash in the postseason this year
No way the Spurs let Parker get away. He'll get his money, and will likely become the best PG in Spurs history before it's all said and done.
Pop talks a little bit about the Parker situation in the Sports Sunday video. He seems to want to get it done this summer if Tony and his agent want to do so.
If the Spurs can handle it financially, there is no cap reason why the Spurs should lose Parker unless he wants to take a qualifying offer and become unrestricted in 2006. The Spurs have been the recipients of some rather large luxury tax distributions under the current cap rules which they might not be ready to give up.
Should Udrih prove to be starting caliber in this league you have to wonder if the Spurs might be tempted to let Parker walk if his price is above a certain level.
IF POP WANTS TP LOCKED UP NOW
THEN HE MUST NOT FEEL BENO IS THERE YET
I WOULD SEE NO REASON WHY TP WOULD WANT TO BE UNRESTRICTED IN 2006
ESPECIALLY RISKING INJURY AND SHORTER CONTRACT
Like any free agent, the Spurs have a number in mind for Parker. I think it's safe to say that number is higher than anyone save Duncan.
We'll have to see if they can afford it, but these guys seem to know how to plan for the long term.
Agreed Waly. I have to read your posts twice, but this was right on. Especially one game he deserves max and one a kick in the ass....The fact is SA can resigns him right before this year season begins by 70 and probably Tony must to sign it
Probably Tony is a so big player, but for me, is now less than Steve Nash, and more than 70 millions is too much for an very inconsistent player, who canīt play consistent D, and needs a consistent backup
One game he deserves a maximum and the other he deserves a kick in his ass
His deffense isnīt enough for a maximum contract, he isnīt a league leader in any statistic, his best is #16 in assits
If Tony were consistent we would not need a consistent reserve PG
Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the rookie contract extension year players, they can't even talk until after 31 August, right?I think Tony will get more than Manu, but not the max, and I think it will be done by the end of August, probably before.
I believe extensions for rookies can be signed as early as Aug 1. The deadline to sign one is Oct 31 iirc.
I think Tony will get more than Manu, but not the max, and I think it will be done by the end of August, probably before.
I hope you're right. I think Tony is one of those people that is only going to get better. His game is showing improvement each season. Locking him up would be a good thing, and you would think Tony and the Spurs (and hopefully TP's agent) would be happy to get that done.
tp=max player:eyebrow
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