You sure you're not refering to the Mavs - Spurs series?
I'm sorry boys, the best team did not win this thing this year and we can blame this on the NBA. Am I crying? Am I whining? Am I b*tching, moaning, and groanining? yes because the league hijacked this thing and that's the only way to put it. That bad part about it is that true fans of the game like me are so mad that we can't congradulate the Heat and their fans on a great accomplishment. Are we selfish? Yes, but God also called himself a jealous god and it only because of the love we have for our team. I wish no ill will to the Miami Heat. D Wade? He's nasty and deserves the MVP. But you don't tell me that Dallas blows this team out in games 1 & 2, is leading in #3 and suddenly forgets how to play? That's so bogus. Game 4 I'll give you 'cause Dallas stunk. But game 5 was taken. Now don't give me that bullschitt about missing free throws because free throws are missed. When push came to shove, literally in the case of JET vs. Wade, Dallas found itself on the end of another screwing. Reggie Miller was on 103.3 FM the other day and he was asked how do fouls change the way a player plays. He said that after picking up a coupla fouls, a player can no longer really be aggressive. His entire game plan goes to . This happened to Dallas after game 3, especially when the League saw that Dallas was gonna' sweep this thing. They changed their style of calling the game in favor of the Heat and never let Dallas be aggressive. People say Dallas turned into a jump shooting team? You would too if you continued to go to the bucket but didn't get any calls. (If I see Dwyane Wade use that off-hand again to create space, I'm gonna go nuts. Poor Devin Harris didn't know whether to schitt or go blind. When ever he'd beat Wade to the "point" he'd get whistled for a foul.)
Guys, I'm bitter. I'm so bitter. I'm not sad. I'm not disappointed. I AM PHCKING BITTER! How much difference would Stack have made in game 5? So many questions . . .
(From Aschcan in DFW)
I Agree with you 100%THE HIJACKING OF A SERIES
You sure you're not refering to the Mavs - Spurs series?
I think I have to mow the lawn today ... comments?
go cry over at mavstalk.com cause we dont give a about your pussy franchise!
The same inconsistent officiating that expedited the Mavs' ouster was what got them to the Finals in the first place.
So, please, city of Dallas, mark Cuban, and Mavs fans, just go disappear up your own anus forever.
Yeah, the Spurs couldn't repeat. Oh well.the best team did not win this thing this year
this thread is a joke just like dirk's heart
If you want to talk about that series again, we can
but, don't leave out Tim Duncan and that all calls he got in that series
Ya know something, I think I know why you Spur fans are Still pissed off.
correct me if I'm wrong
The refs let Duncan have his way throughout the series until the final two mins. of almost every game. Then Timmy couldn't buy a foul call. Coming from a MAVS fan side I did'nt think 1/2 of the Foul calls were fouls to begin with.
(I know It's not detailed enough but I'll do that when I get off work)
same can be said about the famous rolling of dirks foot and many more calls but im at work too and dont want to get to involved in this bs. be sour somewhere else like 4 hrs from here.
It wasn't really meant for you It was for the MAVS fans who didn't read it.
But, thanks for you input.![]()
BTW, why the are you guys talking about Rasho being traded... he doesn't deserve to be talked about. Rasho Sucks!![]()
From one Mavs fan to another...
STFU!!!!
If this puts a smile on your face, I didn't think it was a foul either.
They called cause I think Tim was inside the circle.
From one Mavs fan to another
DON'T WITH ME !
Leonard is by far my favorite Mav poster. He doesn't offer excuses and if he's wrong about something he'll mostly admit to it.![]()
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Say what you want about the officials, but if the Mavs take care of business, up 13 with 6 and a half minutes left they're probably the champs. They choked like no team has ever choked in the history of the finals and here we are. Too bad, so sad.![]()
He probably doesn't because he spent so much time telling us not to.![]()
Actually there were a lot of fouls committed by the Mavs on Wade that didn't get called. He easily should have gone to the line five more times a game if the refs called it right.
You're right...I counted at least 8-10 more fouls against Wade that weren't called- and that was just in the 4th quarter of game 6.
The refs didn't want to turn it into a FT shooting contest (and Stern gave them the secret signal from the stands to make a game of it) so they cut the Mavs some slack.
How do you explain the disappearance of Dirk. Did the refs take away his shooting ability.
By the way, Mav fans, WTF is with jacking up all the long range jump shots near the end of the game? And, what gives with Dirk passing to Pampier in crunch time. In that same situation, game 7 in S.A., Dirk went strong to the rim. What happened to him?
You have just asked the 64 Million Dollar Questions!
Where the DID Dirk's shot go? For six straight games????
Why DID the Mavs jack up three 3s in succession when BOTH Shaq and Zo were on the bench????
And why in the would Dirk pass anything to "Stone Hands" Dampier late in the 4th quarter??? That dude caught maybe 2 passes like that and converted in over 100 games.
The only answer I can come up with is they CHOKED!!!!
MWILL:
I'm going to do this for a bunch of us who will allow me. Let's all be clear on one thing: the refs didn't cost the Mavericks the series. That's utter bull from people who have no concept of the rules of the NBA and try to put what they see on tv as something that know something about. If you don't understand the rules, between Ducks, Kori, myself and others. we'll get them to you in hard back form.
Now about this series. The problem with Dallas is that they were a young basketball team. It's easy to go out and defeat your ach nemesis (Spurs) when that opponent isn't playing well. And let's keep this in mind MWILL, the SPURS pushed your team to seven games; not the other way around. The sooner you and other in denial Mavs' fans realize that your team was playing above your heads (just a little) and that THAT series took a lot out of the team, your healing process will begin. I want you to keep something in mind about the Spurs series and that was games five and six because they are going to be paramount to this diatribe in a bit.
What I want to convey to you and other disheartened Mav fans is that nobody, and I MEAN NOBODY had it out for the Mavs. Again that is one of the biggest piles of bull floating in the NBA fandom. Now with that said, the better team did win because the better team WAS A TEAM. MWILL in order for a team to become a champion, that team has to adopt a creed, a motto, a mission statement and you don't start adopting such a statement at the beginning of the playoffs, you adopt it as an embodiment of your organization. As Kori, myself and a few others who cover the Spurs will tell you, the Spurs have a motto that is set to a poem; the Stonecutter's creed. It is essentially about constantly chiseling away at your goal day in and day out. That is how the Spurs franchise operates and has become successful as such. When you look at the Heat, the 15 strong motto isn't just about the fifteen games it took the Heat to win to get a le but it was about the team's goal to win the season and that started last season when they were so close. MWILL when the Mavericks adopt such a credo, mantra or other franchise embodiment, they will begin to become a great franchise.
Now let me elaborate on this ONE series that defined your season. Dwain Price of the Fort Worth Star Telegram told me back in 2003 that the Dallas Mavericks will never win a le because they are not a consistent team yet. What he was referring to was the fast starts and the lay offs that happen. it used to be the Mavs were good for doing the regular season like that but we were all witness to this collapse in this series and here why: because they lack the veteran leadership necessary to stay the course.
In the realm of horse racing, there are basically four types of horses in a race: a front runner (who gets out there in front and tries to get a big lead), a start dash (one that starts out fast and tries to set the pace), a stretch runner (one that wins races in the stretch because they've got the stamina) and a last spurt (a horse who tries to win the race in the last turn). When Dallas went on their 2-0 lead, nobody in that organization talked about playing for just one game. Nobody pulled back on that thoroughbred and kept it in the middle of the pack. The Mavs are a front running horse MWILL and they have always been since Don Nelson became the coach. The team got out to this fast start but didn't have the energy or stamina left to whether the race. They ran out of steam at the end.
Meanwhile the Heat, as a team, can be considered a stretch runner in this example and here's why. The Heat didn't panic when they were down 0-2 but instead they just stayed the course. There was no panicking in them because as veterans, the team knew that they had three games to get two wins out of. And so they methodically crept up on Dallas by winning game three in close fashion, by winning game four in convincing fashion and then actually winning game five to take a lead. In game six, Pat Riley cracked the whip on his thoroughbred team and they responded because they had energy and stamina.
Now if you're asking what does horse racing have to do with winning a basketball game, the symetry is that it takes 15 wins to become a NBA champion. To get there you have to know when to crack the whip and when to just lay off and let things come to you. The Mavericks, as a team, have yet to understand the concept of steady game play. When they have a double digit lead, they get away from the bread and butter plays that put them in that position to begin with. Against a good team like the Heat, they became exposed to a great extent that it terrified the players. They panicked in four straight games and you see the results of that choice.
MWILL this team also needed leadership from top. When all this chaos was going around and the players were looking for guidance, there wasn't any because the owner and the head coach were acting just like the players. Ask anyone who has commanded military troops or even had been a coach at some level. They will tell you that your men/players look to you as the calming force. If you don't 'look' worried when the is hitting the fan, they actually calm down and execute their duties with no problems. If the owner does the same thing of looking calm, then the coach can continue that message and the players respond. Your example are the two coaches. When the Mavs were up 2-0, Pat Riley didn't get flustered and he didn't waver on what he was doing as far as game planning either. He stayed true to form (yes Spurs fans I know) and he stayed the course. Yet when the series was tied and then the Mavs were down by one game, everyone beame unglued. The owner, coach and players all fell off the deep end and that decision was a costly one. Also MWILL the history of this team coughing up a game six was set in stone two series prior. Remember my statement about the Spurs/Mavs in games five and six? Well Dallas let the Spurs come back into that series by not handling business and they coughed up a golden opportunity for ths team.
MWILL if you look at this series the way it truly happened and now through tinted glasses, you will see that the Mavs have a long way to go as far as maturity in the playoffs. It wasn't that the Heat had guys who been to the Finals before; it was about the playoff games that they had racked up as a team of indiviuals players. That comes in handy in a situation like this because the experience of losing is a part of the experience of winning.
As a fan MWILL either you accept what has happened and move on to a new future or you stay bitter and live in the past. Even though this team has lost a series in which they could have either extended or wo the series, the fact remains that this team is very young. They have promise but you have to have the faith in that team. Claiming that the game was fixed, rigged and what not only serves the critics by saying that sportsmanship does not exist in Big D. This team needs to learn from adversity and this is the only lesson available. It's a bitter pill but every team that has ever one a le has gone through it.
G-Mo
P.S.: The score still is San Antonio THREE GOLD THINGIES and Dallas, um well never mind we know the score
Last edited by nbascribe; 06-22-2006 at 06:14 PM.
Great post, but now that the first round is 4 of 7, the magic number is 16.
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