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    I know it's not very realistic, but

    Imagine the possibility if we acquired Ben Wallace!!!


    Best defensive team of all time!!!

    Tim- one of the two best post defenders in the NBA
    Ben-the other best post defender in the NBA
    Bruce-best perimeter defender in the league
    Manu-very good perimeter defender
    Tony- still improving, but he steals more and he did stop Rip

    We would be a great rebounding team.

    Ben could shut down Dirk.

    No second chance points!

    Great transition defense!


    And I still believe that defense does win championships.


    It wouldn't be hard to see that team winning it all.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    lmao @ pipe dream. a staple word over at laker sites trying to figure out how they can somehow trade devean george, chris mihm, and some picks for kevin garnett.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    but if it did happen, and we could somehow afford it, then yes, it would be an exemplary defensive team.

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    I had a nice lineup for the Spurs in NBA Live 2004. I maxed out everybodys stats and my team was"

    C-Shaq
    PF-Dirk
    SF-Kevin Garnett
    SG-Tim Duncan
    PG-Yao

    Bench
    Manu
    Tony
    Bruce
    Hedo

    Now that would be a good team right there. If we could make the trades though.

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    but if it did happen, and we could somehow afford it, then yes, it would be an exemplary defensive team.
    examplary: are you a school teacher or something?

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    I had a nice lineup for the Spurs in NBA Live 2004. I maxed out everybodys stats and my team was"

    C-Shaq
    PF-Dirk
    SF-Kevin Garnett
    SG-Tim Duncan
    PG-Yao

    Bench
    Manu
    Tony
    Bruce
    Hedo

    Now that would be a good team right there. If we could make the trades though.
    That lineup and you have Hedo coming off the bench?

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    I had a nice lineup for the Spurs in NBA Live 2004. I maxed out everybodys stats and my team was"

    C-Shaq
    PF-Dirk
    SF-Kevin Garnett
    SG-Tim Duncan
    PG-Yao

    Bench
    Manu
    Tony
    Bruce
    Hedo

    Now that would be a good team right there. If we could make the trades though.
    If that was a real team, I'm hesitant to say it wouldn't do very well ...

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    examplary: are you a school teacher or something?
    jman = not a school teacher

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    I had a nice lineup for the Spurs in NBA Live 2004. I maxed out everybodys stats and my team was"

    C-Shaq
    PF-Dirk
    SF-Kevin Garnett
    SG-Tim Duncan
    PG-Yao

    Bench
    Manu
    Tony
    Bruce
    Hedo

    Now that would be a good team right there. If we could make the trades though.
    sounds realistic. Why not.

    I hadn't really thought of Yao as a point guard before, but he's going to be able to post on any other guard pretty well.

    Tim as the shooting guard is an interesting thought.


    Now, you might also consider it

    C-Shaq
    PF-Yao
    SF-Tim Duncan
    SG-Dirk Nowinski
    PG-KG


    This is a more realistic lineup, imo.


    Another advantage is that these Spurs are probably a better free throw shooting team than our current lineup.



    Pretty good defensively, but a little slow in the interior. Not sure how great a defender Dirk is, especially on the perimeter. Since even if they got past him, they would still face Yao and Shaq and possibly Timmy, it wouldn't really matter that much.

    Perhaps we play zone.

    The other team gets no rebounds at all.

    We get all the shot blocks we want. However, the key is staying out of foul trouble.

    With that height, we could probably see well enough over everybody that ball pressure would not be too much of a problem and if we got the ball over half court and got a shot up, we would shoot about 80 %.


    The other team has AI, Kobe, Diaw, Stoudamire and Marion.


    Like the ultimate small ball lineup vs big ball lineup.

    They say speed kills, but in this case speed would be bludgeoned to death.

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    Now, returning to the original pipe dream:


    while it's probably not likely and probably not going to happen, it isn't so utterly impossible that the possibility cannot be considered.



    The other teams are interesting, but so utterly impossible that we would all say without fear of contradiction that they will never happen other than on NBA live.


    It's not likely that we will acquire Ben, but it could happen. It is not completely out of the question or impossible.

    And if it does happen, we would probably win it all and pretty easily.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    the chances of us signing are slim unless we somehow get the cap salary fairy to get us under. realistically we just can't afford him without giving up something we value (ie tony or manu)

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    Yeah, Toronto sure got equal value for Carter.

    And he wasn't even a free agent.

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    just what are the stats the defensive player of the year gets rated on ? blocked shots? rebounds? what?
    Bruce did more than what any defensive player of the year did. yet no one put it in the books. Bruce would " SHUT YOU DOWN!" how many times did force a star player to change their game and then complain how Bruce played too close, is there a stat for that? "Bear Hug Defense"...... That warrants RESPECT!!!!
    Bruce Bowen is truly the DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS !!!!!

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    Ok, but I still wouldn't mind having number 2 on the team in that case.

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    I would rather trade for Chris Kamen

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    Yeah, Toronto sure got equal value for Carter.

    And he wasn't even a free agent.
    He quit on the team, and the Raptors were desperate to improve.

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    It could easily happen, sign and trade Nazr, Barry, Oberto, Scola

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    4 players for a 30 plus year old undersized center in the west? We could get more and become deeper by trading those players in pairs or individually

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    He quit on the team, and the Raptors were desperate to improve.
    The Raptors didn't improve. That's a joke.

    And Ben can quit on the Pistons by saying he won't come back. If that is the case, Joe can let him go for absolutely nothing or try to work a deal with one of the teams Ben wants to go to.

    Really, do you think letting him go for nothing is absolutely the best thing to do?

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    It could easily happen, sign and trade Nazr, Barry, Oberto, Scola
    Sure, the Pistons would do that deal.

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    4 players for a 30 plus year old undersized center in the west?
    Well, Michael Finley was our starting center to close out the season....

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    Bruce Bowen is truly the DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS !!!!!
    I have been saying this for the past several years.
    He's been robbed badly.

    I am for getting Ben Wallace, but i don't think Pop is that creative to even think about considering it.

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    Do we really need another center that cant score?

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    Ben wasn't very happy during the playoffs. Saunders is no Larry Brown and Ben isn't the first case where one of the players had a problem with the head coach. Ben is a FA next year right? If so, then do the Pistons have Bird rights and is he gonna be Restricted (probably). If Ben really didn't wanna stay with the Pistons, I'm guessing a sign trade involving Barry, Nazr, Oberto would might happen. I'm not sure if the contracts will even out and come through though.

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    Sure, the Pistons would do that deal.
    If Ben publicly said there would be no way he's resigning with Detroit, what kind of package, from any team, would you be willing to accept?

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