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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Talk about timely downsizing..

    Tells judge it's not retaliation

    Scandal-hit Fox News moved yesterday to fire an employee who says she was sexually harassed by Bill O'Reilly - but wants a judge to declare the canning isn't retribution.

    Andrea Mackris, 33, said she was served legal papers about her termination by a man lying in wait for her at her Manhattan apartment building.

    The do ents said Fox had asked a judge to let the TV station dump her from a $93,200-a-year job as associate producer on "The O'Reilly Factor" - and to rule that the firing was not in retaliation for her accusations about the show's host.

    Mackris sued O'Reilly and Fox News on Wednesday, saying her boss had made "disgusting" phone calls to her. O'Reilly sued Mackris the same day, alleging extortion.
    New York Daily News

    Of course it was her fault. She was probably dressing as a and any red blooded man would have assumed she was asking for it and acted just like O'Lielly. She may have said "no" but she really meant "yes". <sarcasm off>

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    Free Throw Coach Aggie Hoopsfan's Avatar
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    Someone who condones blocking our service people overseas from voting shouldn't be invoking any sarcasm tags or lectures on morals.

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    btw, have any of you read the deposition or whatever regarding her case?

    Even though I like his show I'm certainly not defending him, but did you see how long she stayed on the phone with him?!? If I were being oh, so offended, I'd have just hung the up.


    It's some pretty hot reading, though.

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    That's what cracked me up -- he "forced her into phone sex" Just hang up!

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    That's what cracked me up -- he "forced her into phone sex" Just hang up!
    I know. Has the woman never heard of hanging up the phone?.... Uh... you know... put the reciever down. Um.... you can do that when you don't like what you're listening to. You really can. I've done it before. Works like a charm! All the recording equipment now.....er.... you can screen your calls and you don't have to answer anyone you don't like to talk to. EVER.

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    I have a real problem with her response time to this, her behavior during the alleged harassment and her willingness to let it continue AND that she quit and then went back for more!

    If I were being harassed, I'd walk in the office with a baseball bat. The harasser's name would be on it, maybe in Calligraphy. I'd tell the harasser that the next time he'd best be prepared for a baseball bat upside the head, because there's NO WAY a job is worth that kind of crap.

    This is not some little miniumum wage waitress or poor teenage kid flippin burgers to buy diapers for her baby, that kid may put up with it because they can see no way out...this woman obviously had an education and marketable job skills.

    I don't care how unfair you think it is that you have to quit a job that you can do and that you like....IS IT REALLY WORTH YOUR SELF RESPECT?

    If women really want to stop this type of harassment, scream, shout, let everyone including the guy in the mailroom know that it is happerning, and if it continues to happen QUIT.....

    I'm not real big on women who put up with that kind of b.s. and then cry fowl months or even years after the fact. Not in this day and age.

    The fact is that if you put up with it then it will NEVER change..........

    ....unless you are putting up with it in the hopes that eventually you have enough evidence to sue...........

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    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    Hi Bambi...

    Since you're new here, let me give you a little hint. There are some people in this forum who don't want to be bothered with trivial little things like facts. NBADan is one of them.

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    Hi Bambi...

    Since you're new here, let me give you a little hint. There are some people in this forum who don't want to be bothered with trivial little things like facts. NBADan is one of them.
    Of course not! It doesn't fit his agenda.

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    This O'Reilly stuff is the funniest thing I've seen in the news in a long time. After having to hear his holier than thou at ude these past few years and then finding out the guy is a complete pervert .. it's just hilarious.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    You mess with the bull you get the horns.

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    The part of her story that doesn't add up is that (as I understand it) she went back to work for him. If he had been that bad for a number of years, why go back?

    Not that the accusations made strike me as being something totally out of character for O'Reilly, but it seems odd that she would willingly go back to such an intolerable situation, especially when she had work elsewhere.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    There's no way those depositions could have been so detailed had she not recorded those phone calls. Bill had better settle before those surface. Kobe could weather something like that but he can't.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    If the accusations are true, she shouldn't have had to leave her position and she should have been able to go back to work.

    But I'm still supporting Bill on this.

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    She shouldn't have gotten the calls in the first place.
    The do ents said Fox had asked a judge to let the TV station dump her from a $93,200-a-year job as associate producer on "The O'Reilly Factor" - and to rule that the firing was not in retaliation for her accusations about the show's host.
    About as disingenuous as a lot of Fox's "news coverage."

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    Pimp Marcus Bryant's Avatar
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    I haven't seen anyone argue that such calls as described in her complaint were acceptable, but whether she actually received said calls in the first place.

    Again, if he was that bad of an individual to work for, why'd she go back?

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    I've got to agree with those above who say she shouldn't have let this go on for as long as she did, and she loses credibility for that.

    But if he did it, he did it. I just don't think that she should be as richly rewarded as she is claiming.

    To those balking about her recording the conversations, though, wouldn't she have recieved flak if she has accused O'Reilly with only her recollection to back her up? I can't speak for New York's recording laws, but in Texas, you can record a conversation as long as one person knows the recording is taking place.

    If she had come in with only her recollection, she'd have been slammed shut by many people as soon as the story broke, moreso that she is now.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    Again, if he was that bad of an individual to work for, why'd she go back?
    That might end up being what kills her case, MB.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    How many $90k/yr jobs have you guys walked out on?.

    The tapes are gonna come out.

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    What did she have at CNN?

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    She had every right to go back to her job.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    I hope they do come out, CD.

    I can understand about needing the work, but you also can't say that if she had the skills necessary, she couldn't have found a replacement job (fully replacing her previous income) eventually.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    If the accusations are true, she shouldn't have had to find a replacement job.

    Bill could've just started his own 900 phone line.

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    A lawsuit filed at the "most appropriate" time. I would like to see what she looks like and know what her party affiliation is. And, with the Kobe thing still out there, why not! Ever hear of coat tails? Whether you like O'reily or not, this is another example of the lawsuits plauging America. Marv Albert survived and is flourishing now even though his assets are dwindled. All of these things cost big bucks and the lawyers are the only ones benefiting. Maybe we ought to ask Edwards about it. Thats why they bury lawyers 12 feet under. "DEEP DOWN, THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE".

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    No, Chalupa...she shouldn't, but AFAIK, the records don't show her following what I'm sure would be in every employee handbook in America about following a chain of command about reporting abuse or harrassment.

    What would FNC have done if she would have come forward? They probably would have found a way for her to keep her job, not let the abuse continue, and reprimand O'Reilly to her and their approval.

    Hopefully.

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    Bill's comments were lewd, crude, outrageous!!
    I can help take that silver foot out of his mouth.
    Bill, you like to play...well you gotta pay!!
    Your perversion is my conviction.

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