Making acquisitions to address needs versus to stockpile talent.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Spurs might be best served this summer to acquire a player or two who doesn't exactly fill a pressing need, yet could very well come in handy in doing so later. I think the greatest unforgivable sin from a GM's standpoint is losing talent with nothing in return. Second is not acquiring available talent because they don't fill a specific need. This is not to say the team should just overpay for a player who is available. But if the price is right, they should acquire him. Nothing sucks worse than being unable to land the player you need because you have nothing to send back.

[ducks]

if they can land joel for 5 million a year I think they could trade him anytime they want

ian has to be the answer in 2007

[Marcus Bryant]

if they can land joel for 5 million a year I think they could trade him anytime they want

That's actually an example of overpaying a player. Pass on Rasho Part Deux.

ian has to be the answer in 2007

Actually, Javtokas has to be the answer in 2006.

[ducks]

joel making 5 million a year is not overpaying him
he brings more then most bigs and would be getting paid less

[Marcus Bryant]

joel making 5 million a year is not overpaying him
he brings more then most bigs and would be getting paid less

For how many years? Four years from now he won't be at $5 mil per.

[clubalien]

For how many years? Four years from now he won't be at $5 mil per.

but if you are stock pilling talent what does it matter what price you are paying because you intended to trade them


might i ask how much is rasho making in his last years of contract here

or how much malik rose is

does anyone care how much tim duncan is making when he gets old after we trade him for lebron james?

[ducks]

most likely he would improve you think he is at his prime?

5 years from now 10% raises
and the salary cap will be alot higher in 5 years

[ducks]

paying joel 25 million over 5 years is too much. He wants long term contract and he won't settle for anything less then 4-5 years. The ideal contract would be 2 year 10 million.

if he blows up you would have to pay big money later or let him walk


I guess you could be cheap and expect ian to be everything
but ian can not play all 48 minutes a game

[Bruno]

Marcus, can you give examples of talented players we can get for cheap ?

[ducks]

joel is not going to settle for a 2 year contract
vets do and some rookies
not players in the nba for 3 years

[ducks]

scola if no buyou

[ducks]

The thing is, I don't think he will blow up.

because players hit their prime now after 3 years

dude brings rebounding and block shots

spurs do not need a big o guy from center

[ducks]

no one thought they could trade rasho and they did

[clubalien]

our starting center right now is Finely

we need someone why not a player that is cheaper than rasho and better than rasho and nazr combined

I would even sign Cato(played with yao with rockets) because he woudl be a better starter then finely right now as our center!

[ducks]

[bigfan]

Bring over Scola and we'll be fine. The Shark and Oberto can handle the 5 slot.

[clubalien]

and who is his and tim duncan back up

tony, beno!
manu, barry
bowen, finely
tim, Horry?
javtokas, oberto

looks pretty weak
but
Tony>barry
manu>finely
bowen>horry
Tim>javtokas
przy>oberto
with javtoask and przy playing together when tim resting seems better to me

[Solid D]

if he blows up you would have to pay big money later or let him walk


I guess you could be cheap and expect ian to be everything
but ian can not play all 48 minutes a game

There is a potential risk to consider and that is Joel Przybilla sat out for a few weeks last season due to right knee tendenitis that appeared to be somewhat chronic. It's a problem that lots of basketball players have to manage, to be sure...but there was some mention last season that if Joel's knee didn't show improvement, he might have to consider arthroscopic surgery. That didn't happen, but it is a consideration when assessing risk.

[picnroll]

Q Woods is a guy that could be had caheap, is taletnted and by playing, staying out of trouble could have increased value.

[Solid D]

That's the key. Keeping relatively inexpensive role players - who can perform well in a team-oriented scheme - around the 3 highest paid star players.

The higher the salaries for the Big 3 as each year goes by, the more the Spurs have to 1) search for young players who come cheaply before they've made their mark, or 2) search for seasoned vets willing to take less for their one-last run at a ring.

[rascal]

The Spurs might be best served this summer to acquire a player or two who doesn't exactly fill a pressing need, yet could very well come in handy in doing so later. I think the greatest unforgivable sin from a GM's standpoint is losing talent with nothing in return. Second is not acquiring available talent because they don't fill a specific need. This is not to say the team should just overpay for a player who is available. But if the price is right, they should acquire him. Nothing sucks worse than being unable to land the player you need because you have nothing to send back.

Finally something I agree with. Only targeting role players is closing the door on potential trade steals. If you improve the overall talent level on the team then your moving in the right direction.

Only going after specific role players will put the spurs in a position that if the role players don't work out then they can be difficult to trade because they will have low market value.

[rascal]

most likely he would improve you think he is at his prime?

5 years from now 10% raises
and the salary cap will be alot higher in 5 years

Yes Pryzbilla will not get any better.

[ducks]

I find it hard to believe players after 3 years in the nba now have hit their prime

[ducks]

joel next to duncan would make joel better also practicing against duncan would make him better

[rascal]

Not every player improves. It depends on a players skill set, mental makeup and opportunity to improve. Many believed rasho would improve on the spurs. He did not.