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I agree it is time to give Beno an authentic chance. Let the kid play.
I can see why there's concern over the center spot, and a backup for Bruce, even though they're outlawing defense anyway, but for crying out loud, can we please stop going crazy about Speedy or Bobby Jackson or god knows who else for backup point?
Beno is good. He can shoot, he can pass, he can run the offense. His only weakness is confidence. He just needs Pop to believe in him. If Beno went into the year knowing he's going to get 12+ minutes a night, come or highwater, by the time February rolled around, he'd easily be one of the top six or eight backup PGs in the league, I guarantee it. He's got the skills.
Tony plays more mins than any of our starters anyway, we really shouldn't freak out too much about his backup.
If we sign somebody, it should be as a 3rd PG, a complete project, or disaster insurance. But the pecking order should be clear with Beno at 2nd. Just give him one year to prove himself.
And if he absolutely stinks, you can always use Brent for the role. He did do it for Seattle for a few years.
I agree it is time to give Beno an authentic chance. Let the kid play.
I agree...I think Beno has what it takes...all he needs is more playing time during the regular season. I feel the same way about Oberto...he isn't amazing, but if he gets playing time, he can contribute and be a solid backup center. And , I can be the 3rd PG..."RAINMAKER!"
Beno is good enough to be our backup PG. He played better then Nick Van Exel last season and I think he'll be our backup next season.
Agree at 99%. Beno is a good player, don't forget his rookie year.
Pop just need to trust him again and Beno can be one of the best backup PG in the league.
That's the point where I disagree. I don't want a project as 3rd PG. I want a solid vet (a guy like Mike Wilks) who can enter in the game at any moment if Beno or Tony has troubles : I go with the "disaster insurance" solution.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Unfortunately there are some in this forum who wish to disagree based on a couple of games. If we had done that with Tony he would have been gone before the playoffs in his rookie year.
I agree. Let the guy play. He needs some guaranteed minutes in order to improve and show his true potential.
He's fairly slow and unathletic but also a very good shooter. Just like John Paxson and Steve Kerr and they played important minutes on championship teams so I don't see why he couldn't. He is a backup pg after all, not a starting go-to guy.
I would much prefer Brent Barry to be the 2nd string PG.
Defensively, if he is on court with Manu, Manu can guard the Point or even Bowen.
You're right......................you're right...................ManLaw?
Not on a couple of games, but only the selective games where he makes a mistake. Those people completely discount or disregard anything he does that is good.
Okay, let's look at the bigger picture. If Tony gets seriously injured during the first week of the season, are you all confident with Beno as our starting PG, logging 30+ minutes a night?
That's exactly the point. How do you expect him to develop from the bench? At least if Parker gets injured Beno will actually get the PT and we'll find out if he develops or not. It's certainly better than the actual big picture, which is Parker gets banged up during the playoffs, and Pop has to keep playing him because there's no alternative other than the guy that's wasting a roster spot for a second straight year.
I really like Beno. I was never exactly pumped about Speedy either.
We're talking about a backup point guard. He's not going to be great in the first place or he would be starting somewhere.
Last edited by Quadzilla99; 07-04-2006 at 09:46 AM.
You say "we'll find out", but perhaps Pop has a better handle on this than we do and already has an idea of how he'll develop.
During Presidential elections, some people ignore who the VP candidate is because they assume that nothing will happen to the President. If anything were to happen to Tony early on (knock on wood), I don't know that I'm confident with Beno at the helm. I'm willing to give him one more chance at backup, but I'd really like to have a plan B in place via a more seasoned veteran 3rd PG who wouldn't mind less minutes but is ready to fill the backup role if needed.
Face it, if Tony gets hurt Manu is playing point. Maybe Brent. For Tony's backup you need someone who is quick and can defend, and can hit the outside shot.
I'm tired of all the love for a guy who folded under the pressure of Lindsay Hunter of all people last year in the playoffs and couldn't bring the ball up the court without turning it over.
Screw the worship because he's cute (the girls' take on the forum) or because he didn't get a chance (some misguided souls).
He got a chance in 2005, and he got owned on the grandest stage of them all.
I was a fan of Beno's game before the vast majority of the people here ever even heard of him, but I have been disappointed in one main thing-- he has got to work harder-- be more dedicated to basketball. He HAS to improve in certain areas and I did not see him improve in those areas. He needs to replace his "false" y self-confidence with some real self-confidence.
You and me both.
What on earth would give you that idea? He doesn't get minutes when it matters or when Parker is banged up, yet he's still on the roster. If Pop had an idea that he could play, he would be playing him. If Pop had an idea that he couldn't play, he wouldn't be tough to trade. I don't see any evidence that Pop has a clue what to do with him.
Yet people would rather see Speedy Claxton, who is deficient on two of the three counts listed. , for most of the years I've watched the Spurs, they haven't had a point guard who fits all three of those needs. Maybe they never have.
I'm tired of people being happy with the fact that there's a guy wasting a roster spot who doesn't help the team. If he's so awful, he shouldn't be here for yet another season.
ing yeah!!! Letīs get Billups for 2nd PG.
And maybe Duncan gets hurt so Spurs must go for Garnett too.
But wait! What if Manu gets hurt too? We must go for Kobe, coz Brent is not good enough...............................
You canīt have 2 allstar players for every position.
You must be Samo Udrih arenīt you?
I like Beno. He's unspectacular, but steady.
As an outsider, maybe I'm wrong about this. I think Van Exel was picked up last season after Beno struggled in the '05 Finals versus the Pistons. He seemed lost on both ends of the floor and Pop figured the team needed a veteran back-up if they were to return to the Finals while Udrih sat and was developed over time.
Now that Nick is out, perhaps Beno retains his second string status.
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