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    Everything > Jim Rome SoCalSpursFan's Avatar
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    Launched test missle.

    Does this upset you like it does the rest of the world?

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    yes.

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    When do we invade?

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    Can I help you? I would like to make George W Bush sane again.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    What do you mean "again"?

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    No.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    maybe mr kim jong il should have a car accident.. end of problem

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    Looks like the North is getting ready to launch again...

    North Korea appears to be making preparations to launch another long-range Taepodong-2 missile but the missile is not yet on the launch pad, NBC News reported on Wednesday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

    NBC said the missile was nonetheless in its final assembly stage.

    North Korea launched at least six missiles early on Wednesday and a seventh some 12 hours later, officials in Japan and South Korea said.
    Reuters

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    Are you serious? The only reason they are pulling this crap is to used it as a bargaining chip for economic assistance. Most, if not all the nukes in North Korea are pointed at Japan.

    I don't see any reason to invade because they don't have any intention to bomb the US.

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    Are you serious?
    Who can tell?

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    Are you serious? The only reason they are pulling this crap is to used it as a bargaining chip for economic assistance. Most, if not all the nukes in North Korea are pointed at Japan.

    I don't see any reason to invade because they don't have any intention to bomb the US.
    Tell that to Dubya.

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    maybe mr kim jong il should have a car accident.. end of problem
    That would require -- if you're inferring an assassination by U.S. agents -- a violation of federal law. Is that what you're proposing?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    That would require -- if you're inferring an assassination by U.S. agents -- a violation of federal law. Is that what you're proposing?

    proposing? no... i was just mentioning that things would be easier if he were to have an accident.. that would be some tough luck..

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    He knows it. The US cannot show weakness hence the tough rhetoric. I think the US is handling it correctly. I just don't think he would actually commit troops unless North Korea does something that actually cons utes an act of war, similar to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

    The way I see it, Japan is an ally. A rich ally, if you get my drift. North Korea scares the crap out of them more than anyone else. Japan has invested a lot of money in the US.

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    I think sabatoge was behind the failed long range missle test. Maybe the US did what I thought they'd do and plotted or at least aided it.

    If so, Kudos. Keep it up.

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    Did I read somewhere that Jong uses 60% of his Country's GNP on the military? While his people are starving? Someone (China, Russia) needs to reign in that brutal dictator's regime

    I would't give that demented midget's Country nickel-one in the way of aid. If he were in his right mind (he's not) he'd put away his toys (N. Korea has nothing any one covets) and concentrate on helping the citizens of his Country by whatever means possible. He should be on his little knees begging the International Community, first for forgiveness and then for whatever type of aid they could provide. And they would respond.

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    Did I read somewhere that Jong uses 60% of his Country's GNP on the military? While his people are starving? Someone (China, Russia) needs to reign in that brutal dictator's regime

    I would't give that demented midget's Country nickel-one in the way of aid. If he were in his right mind (he's not) he'd put away his toys (N. Korea has nothing any one covets) and concentrate on helping the citizens of his Country by whatever means possible. He should be on his little knees begging the International Community, first for forgiveness and then for whatever type of aid they could provide. And they would respond.
    Acording to wikipedia it's 20-25 % of GNP, still a lot. But it's a big army. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea#Military):

    According to Western estimates, North Korea has the fifth-largest military in the world, with the largest percentage of civilians enlisted (49.03 active troops per thousand citizens). The North has an estimated 1.08 million armed personnel, compared to about 686,000 South Korean troops (and 3.5 million paramilitary forces) plus 17,000 US troops in South Korea. Military spending is estimated at 20%-25% of GNP, which would mean that the DPRK spends the largest proportion of its GNP on its military in the world. The North has perhaps the world's second-largest special operations force (55,000), designed for insertion behind enemy lines in wartime. While the North has a relatively impressive fleet of submarines, its surface fleet has a very limited capability. Its air force has twice the number of aircraft as the South, but except for a few advanced fighters (about 20 MiG-29s), the North's air force is obsolete.

    compare that to China:
    The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%...China#Military)

    and USA:
    Approximately 1.4 million personnel are currently on active duty in the military with an additional 860,000 personnel in the seven reserve components (456,000 of which are in the Army and Air National Guard) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._United_States)

    North Korea has about 23 mil population.

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    Acording to wikipedia it's 20-25 % of GNP, still a lot. But it's a big army. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea#Military):

    According to Western estimates, North Korea has the fifth-largest military in the world, with the largest percentage of civilians enlisted (49.03 active troops per thousand citizens). The North has an estimated 1.08 million armed personnel, compared to about 686,000 South Korean troops (and 3.5 million paramilitary forces) plus 17,000 US troops in South Korea. Military spending is estimated at 20%-25% of GNP, which would mean that the DPRK spends the largest proportion of its GNP on its military in the world. The North has perhaps the world's second-largest special operations force (55,000), designed for insertion behind enemy lines in wartime. While the North has a relatively impressive fleet of submarines, its surface fleet has a very limited capability. Its air force has twice the number of aircraft as the South, but except for a few advanced fighters (about 20 MiG-29s), the North's air force is obsolete.

    compare that to China:
    The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%...China#Military)

    and USA:
    Approximately 1.4 million personnel are currently on active duty in the military with an additional 860,000 personnel in the seven reserve components (456,000 of which are in the Army and Air National Guard) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._United_States)

    North Korea has about 23 mil population.
    That is pathological... USA would be stupid not to invade. And so war would be the only sane thing to do. UN would say OK.

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    That is pathological... USA would be stupid not to invade. And so war would be the only sane thing to do. UN would say OK.
    As if the UN has influenced this Administration in any way, shape or form.

    Regardless, No. The UN would not sanction that action.

    Not that I care either...

    If this WH actually wanted to remove brutal dictators, with WMDs, that were an actual threat, NK would have been first on the list.

    Nope. Instead they pick on the re ed kid named Iraq. What is the difference between Iraq and NK?

    Hmmmmmmmm.....

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    As if the UN has any credibility with anyone. It is the most dysfunctional organizations
    in the world. Where more than half never pay their dues, pay their obligations to
    so called peace keeping or humanitarian relief.

    It is corrupt to the core. Many do not even pay the landlords their rent for the
    buildings they occupy. And well we know what they do about their parking tickets.

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    That is pathological... USA would be stupid not to invade. And so war would be the only sane thing to do. UN would say OK.
    The reasons the US cannot invade DPRK (NK) are many:
    (1) They probably can make some nukes, even if they can't launch them yet. That crazy bas in Pyongyang will set them off if we invade.
    (2) Seoul is like 25 miles from the border. There aren't enough US/RoK troops to keep NK from going ape on Seoul and bombing it all to .
    (3) Most of our combat troops are in Iraq.
    (4) A bunch of the rest are in Afghanistan.
    (5) We have virtually no intelligence assets on the ground in NK (not that what we had in other places recently has done us much good).
    (6) Remember the Korean War? If US decided to invade NK China would probably get involved as they are NK's closest ally. Russia is next ... and all we need to do is give those two countries more reasons to draw closer.
    (7) Once one nuke goes off, the whole equation changes dramatically.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    The US wouldn't be able to invade NK while still occupying Iraq. North Korea knows this. The most the US can do right now is impose economic sanctions, and that isn't going to stop them. We'll just have to accept there will be yet another nuclear power in the world.

    to answer your question, I'm about as upset as when the US does their missile tests

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    Wacko!


    Friday July 7, 8:06 AM


    N. Korea missile aimed at area off Hawaii

    TOKYO (Reuters) - A North Korean missile launched on Wednesday was aimed at an area of the ocean close to Hawaii, a Japanese newspaper reported on Friday.
    Experts estimated the Taepodong-2 ballistic missile to have a range of up to 6,000 km, putting Alaska within its reach. Wednesday's launch apparently failed shortly after take-off and the missile landed in the sea between the Korean peninsula and Japan, a few hundred kilometres from the launch pad.

    But data from U.S. and Japanese Aegis radar-equipped destroyers and surveillance aircraft on the missile's angle of take-off and al ude indicated that it was heading for waters near Hawaii, the Sankei Shimbun reported, citing multiple sources in the United States and Japan.

    North Korea may have targeted Hawaii to show the United States that it was capable of landing a missile there, or because it is home to the headquarters of the U.S. Pacific fleet, the paper said.

    An alternative explanation might be that a missile could accidentally hit land if fired towards Alaska, the report said.

    A separate report in the Mainichi Shimbun daily cited U.S. and Japanese government officials as saying a piece of the Taepodong-2 missile fell off immediately after take-off, strengthening the view that the launch was a failure.




    http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060707/3/2mty8.html

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    Did I read somewhere that Jong uses 60% of his Country's GNP on the military? While his people are starving? Someone (China, Russia) needs to reign in that brutal dictator's regime
    Hahahahaha!!

    Christian outsourcing?

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    According to Western estimates, North Korea has the fifth-largest military in the world, with the largest percentage of civilians enlisted (49.03 active troops per thousand citizens).
    As the late great Bill Hicks once said...

    "Yeah, Iraq supposedly had the 6th largest Army in the world... but after the top 3 there is a huge drop off. I mean, the Hare Krishna's have the 5th largest Army in the World."

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