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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Gallup: Almost Two-Thirds Want Iraq Withdrawal
    By E&P Staff
    Published: July 07, 2006 11:25 AM ET

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    - A new Gallup poll finds that roughly 2 in 3 Americans urge a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, with 31% wanting this to start immediately.

    Gallup's director, Frank Newport, sums up the results today: "Taken together, it is perhaps fair to say that a significant majority of Americans would like the United States to either withdraw troops from Iraq or make specific plans to do so, although there is no majority demand that troops be withdrawn immediately."


    The poll was unusual in that rather than give respondents a list of options, it allowed them to respond in their own words. Gallup then grouped the varied responses and labelled them with a common theme.

    Results showed that almost 1 in 3 want to "pull the troops out and come home," as soon as possible. About the same number seem to wish for a gradual pullout. The remaining one-third back the present course or want to "finish what we started."
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    Even Democratic war-hawks like Hillary, Biden and Lieberman are being challenged and hopefully, eventually marginalized. I am happy to see that there are anti-war protesters where ever Hillary speaks. That is quite a change from her first run for the Senate. The war-hawks ignore not just what Democrats are saying but what the American people are saying to their own political peril.

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    Results showed that almost 1 in 3 want to "pull the troops out and come home," as soon as possible. About the same number seem to wish for a gradual pullout. The remaining one-third back the present course or want to "finish what we started."
    So only 1/3 favors cut and run.

    Count me among the remaining 1/3 described above.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Gradual pullout is cut and run. It's not like any poltician, even John Murtha, want a immediate complete withdrawal.

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    I suppose it depends on what is meant by "gradual", but they'll start coming home by October, so i don't know what we're on about.

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    Even Democratic war-hawks like Hillary, Biden and Lieberman are being challenged and hopefully, eventually marginalized. I am happy to see that there are anti-war protesters where ever Hillary speaks. That is quite a change from her first run for the Senate. The war-hawks ignore not just what Democrats are saying but what the American people are saying to their own political peril.
    Liberman is going down.

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    Liberman is going down.
    But he's determined to give the GOP the seat by running independant. As if his war stance didn't already brand him as a GOP collaborator.

    "Cut and run", according to Bushco, is anyone with any desire to pull our troops out any time, so yes 2/3 do favor "Cut and run".

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    [B]Gallup: Almost Two-Thirds Want Iraq Withdrawal
    By E&P Staff
    Published: July 07, 2006 11:25 AM ET



    Editor and Publisher

    Even Democratic war-hawks like Hillary, Biden and Lieberman are being challenged and hopefully, eventually marginalized. I am happy to see that there are anti-war protesters where ever Hillary speaks. That is quite a change from her first run for the Senate. The war-hawks ignore not just what Democrats are saying but what the American people are saying to their own political peril.

    Nce spin by Editor and Publisher

    Taken from wikipedia:

    Editor and Publisher Magazine

    E&P was purchased in 1999 by BPI Communications, a division of VNU Business Media. VNU Media also publishes the following media-related magazines: Adweek, Mediaweek, Brandweek, Sales & Marketing Management, and DNonline.com. E&P switched from weekly to monthly publication in January 2004.

    While generally maintaining journalistic objectivity when covering the newspaper industry, E&P has been considered to represent the viewpoints and biases of newspaper owners, from private owners of single nwspapers to public corporations which own large chains of newspapers.
    <sigh>


    Gradual pullout means cut and run? Okay dan, if you and E & P say so.

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    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
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    Every plan involves a timetable, including any hypothetical one to withdraw from Iraq. If you have no timetable, it's not a plan, it's a concept or an idea. Since anyone who proposes a timetable is a "cut and runner", the Bush Administration either wants to ALSO withdraw without a plan (since they refuse any talk of a timetable, and well, they attacked that way), or never withdraw at all.

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    Gradual pullout is cut and run. It's not like any poltician, even John Murtha, want a immediate complete withdrawal.
    Don't you believe that for a minute. Us Democrats want out of their
    NOW! 100 percent. And don't you ever forget it.

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    Don't you believe that for a minute. Us Democrats want out of their
    NOW! 100 percent. And don't you ever forget it.

    Nancy makes me want to puke!

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    i have never seen a group of people more obsessed with polls

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    i have never seen a group of people more obsessed with polls
    The only folks more obsessed with polls than the Bush administration are the Democrats running against it.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 07-09-2006 at 01:48 PM.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Despite the rhetoric, the WH doesn't wipe its ass unless the polls say it's OK.

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    both of you are full of .. bush is one of the few presidents who doesn't base his decisions on polls

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    LMFAO.

    You crack me up.

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    Despite the rhetoric, the WH doesn't wipe its ass unless the polls say it's OK.
    And obviously Clinton never governed his decisions by polls either.

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    And obviously Clinton never governed his decisions by polls either.
    All politicians, without exception, and whatever else they may say, base their actions on the polls. That would include both Clinton AND Bush.

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    I never said it didn't include ex, just calling Dan on his typical Bush is the only one that does it crap.

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    My response wasn't necessarily to you alone, AHF, it was to those tools who think that Bush ignores the polls because that's what he says he does.

    When you are confronted with bad poll numbers, you have three choices:
    1) ignore it. political suicide, for you and your party.
    2) change your position.
    3) spin it and get the public to change theirs.

    Bushco has been pretty effective with number 3 for most of their tenure, but if they think they can wrap the Iraq dog turd in frosting and serve it at a wedding, they and the rest of the GOP are going to get their heads snapped back in November.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    1) ignore it. political suicide, for you and your party.
    It's political suicide unless your buddies own the e-vote. This is why we must insure that our elections are even more secure and reliable than the vote in Mexico, which they are currently not.

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    It's political suicide unless your buddies own the e-vote. This is why we must insure that our elections are even more secure and reliable than the vote in Mexico, which they are currently not.
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    GOD..you are a ing IDIOT!

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    It's political suicide unless your buddies own the e-vote. This is why we must insure that our elections are even more secure and reliable than the vote in Mexico, which they are currently not.
    I'm surprised you even still get internet service with all those black helicopters flying overhead.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    I'm surprised you even still get internet service with all those black helicopters flying overhead.
    GAO Report

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Yeah, as in California's case, another good start would be not letting precinct bosses take their e-voting machines home with them the night before the election. Exit Polls have always been really accurate; I don't care what the resident wing bats say. If the election differs greatly from the exit polls you can be assured there were probably some shenanigans going on in the election.

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    even victoria keeps paper copies
    Or in Larado's case, you keep paper ballots locked in a bank until you need them. South Texas has no credibility to stand on in this issue.

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