Wow! Just...well...Wow!

[Yonivore]

Crossing a Line

I'll let you read the article but, here's a comment from below the article.

This article grossly minimizes Frisch’s conduct. First, it wasn’t one comment, it was many over the course of several days. Second, any parent of a toddler reading her comments would indeed regard them as threatening even to the point of sexual assault. If I had received such messages, I would have contacted the police. Readers interested in the full details can find them at http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.p...tolerant_left/

I received no email or phone call from anyone at Inside Higher Ed.

A few corrections: 1) I don’t believe I engage in “considerable mocking of liberal academics and ideas.” I taught English for a number of years at a private university in Colorado, in fact, so I’m not unfamiliar with the academy.

True, I have addressed issues of iden y politics within the academy, but I’ve done so seriously. And for the record, I consider myself a classical liberal (I am about as far from a social conservative as one can be, for instance). so while I’ve written extensively on questions of progressive philosophical assumptions and how they lead to things like, say, free speech zones, I don’t mock liberalism. Just the opposite in fact: I think progressivism is in opposition to classical liberalism — particularly insofar as it promotes group iden y over individualism.

2) Frisch’s apology was immediately followed by a walking back of that apology, and has now culminated in a desire to see rightwingers heads cracked open with baseball bats, and suggestions that I doctored her comments.

But her comments were cut and pasted as she made them, and they are recorded in Google caches in pristine condition. The suggestion that I altered them, therefore, is potentially libelous.

3) No one on my site harrassed Frisch, as a perusal of the various threads she appeared on will attest. And in my post, her school email was not included.

4) Frisch is relying on sites like this one to suggest that she is a victim. Don’t let her get away with it. Frisch was looking, by her own admission, to be banned from my site.Not only that, but she is trying to suggest she is guilty of nothing more than engaging in a “teachable moment” — the presumptuous and self-importance of which is staggering.But it bears noting that, even in your article, Frisch, an adjunct instructor, refers to herself as a “professor” and compares herself to Ward Churchill. Her desire for academic and leftwing martyrdom drips from her every word and claim. But I won’t be used as her dupe.

I had been prepared to let this go (something I believe I made fairly clear after my site recovered from one of the 3 DoS attacks I was under this weekend), but now that Frisch has decided to try to parlay her infamy into victimized Truth Speaker status, I’m prepared to follow through and make it clear once and for all that Ms Frisch is a very sad case indeed. In fact, the only reason she’s a “target” at all is that she has worked hard at setting herself up as one.

That is to say, rather than blaming “rabid, crazy, right-wing nutcases” for her troubles (such as they are; I happen to thing she’s quite enjoying the attention), she should take ownership of her own behavior, which throughout has been vile and manipulative.

— Jeff Goldsteinproteinwisdom.com

[Extra Stout]

Who the is Deborah Frisch and why should anybody care?

[Yonivore]

Who the is Deborah Frisch and why should anybody care?

No one. Just the latest example of how deranged the left has become.

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No one. Just the latest example of how deranged the left has become.

Oh. Kind of a non sequitur, but whatever.

[Yonivore]

Non sequitur to what? I started the thread.

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"Deborah Frisch threatened sexual abuse against Jeff Goldstein's child in a blog post; therefore, the Left is deranged." Non sequitur.

"Some redneck in West Virginia who voted for Bush beat his wife; therefore, the Right promotes violence against women." Non sequitur.

[Yonivore]

"Deborah Frisch threatened sexual abuse against Jeff Goldstein's child in a blog post; therefore, the Left is deranged." Non sequitur.

"Some redneck in West Virginia who voted for Bush beat his wife; therefore, the Right promotes violence against women." Non sequitur.

Except that others on the left are excusing or minimizing Frisch's behavior and I can think of no one on the right that would excuse the redneck.

[Yonivore]

My point is that people like this Frisch kook are all over the Democratic Party, with the most prevalent cesspool being the DemocraticUnderground.com. A place that has enjoyed the postings of prominent Democrats who, far from distancing themselves from such rantings, either ignore them while embracing their organizations; or agree with them.

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Except that others on the left are excusing or minimizing Frisch's behavior and I can think of no one on the right that would excuse the redneck.

Seriously? How would they even know who she is?

[Yonivore]

Seriously? How would they even know who she is?

Because of her idiocy? Because she was a member of the Psychology Department at the University of Arizona? Because she's a (self-proclaimed) moonbat liberal blogger herself... I dont' know, birds told them?

Anyway, I thought it was also a good example of how extremely vitriolic discourse has become on these internets.

[Extra Stout]

My point is that people like this Frisch kook are all over the Democratic Party, with the most prevalent cesspool being the DemocraticUnderground.com. A place that has enjoyed the postings of prominent Democrats who, far from distancing themselves from such rantings, either ignore them while embracing their organizations; or agree with them.

Frisch and blog commenters make for awfully small fish.

[Yonivore]

Frisch and blog commenters make for awfully small fish.

You win. It was wrong to paint the entire left with a brush loaded by Frisch.

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Because of her idiocy? Because she was a member of the Psychology Department at the University of Arizona? Because she's a (self-proclaimed) moonbat liberal blogger herself... I dont' know, birds told them?

Anyway, I thought it was also a good example of how extremely vitriolic discourse has become on these internets.

Why would her being an idiot, or a psychology lecturer, or a blogger make her a household name to liberals, such that they would jump to her defense?

There are tens of millions of liberal idiots; I doubt they are all on each other's buddy lists.

[Yonivore]

Why would her being an idiot, or a psychology lecturer, or a blogger make her a household name to liberals, such that they would jump to her defense?

There are tens of millions of liberal idiots; I doubt they are all on each other's buddy lists.

Uncle, already.

[Extra Stout]

Uncle, already.

Sorry, I was cultivating that post already. Battle of New Orleans.

[MannyIsGod]

Sorry, I was cultivating that post already. Battle of New Orleans.

[IcemanCometh]

yonivore, i think its time for you to leave

[RandomGuy]

HAHAHAHAHA

He will just put everybody but himself on ignore, so that he can mentally masturbate without any uncomfortable facts cluttering his delusions.