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I suppose now we need to prosecute the publishers of "Who's Who in America" for espionage.
I suppose now we need to prosecute the publishers of "Who's Who in America" for espionage.
That's the inference...apparently.
Or, you could realize the obvious and admit she wasn't a secret.
I suppose now we need to prosecute obviousness for espionage.
Hooray! Finally we're getting some real-live investigative journalism after years of groveling at the Bush trough... oops, oh wait...
Damn journalists compromising national security with their investigate reporting! They're getting troops killed! Um... that's not quite right either...
Repug neocon! Rowr!
Hehehehehehehehehe. You just got to love this. Joe outed his
own wife. And then accused everyone else. But, but, but,
there was no yellow cake......
Bring out the suicide watch again...boutons, dan and
SA210 are in terrible jeopardy.
A sentence buried somewhere in a who gives a book. Hand it to the white house for their ability to dig up more garbage.
I guess wilson was lying about wmd's.
Hehehehehe, now Bush has done and made Novak say all this junk.
That cowboy, for a dummy, does some of the damdest things.
About Wilson, lying. he lies about everything. He outs his
wife and then deny's it and accuses everyone else. A really good
dimm-o-crap, he is...........hehehehehehe.
That would depend on which time you listened to him.
Robert Novak Acknowledges Confidential Administration Sources
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 11, 2006; 6:23 PM
Washington PostSyndicated columnist Robert Novak acknowledged for the first time today that he identified three confidential administration sources during testimony in the CIA leak investigation, saying he did so because they had granted him legal waivers to testify and because special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald already knew of their role.
In a column to be published on Wednesday, Novak said he told Fitzgerald in early 2004 that White House senior adviser Karl Rove and then-CIA spokesman Bill Harlow had confirmed for him, at his request, information about CIA operative Valerie Plame. Novak said he also told Fitzgerald about another senior administration official who originally provided him with the information about Plame, and whose iden y he says he cannot reveal even now.
"I'm still constrained as a reporter," Novak said in an interview. "It was not on the record, and he has never revealed himself as being the source, and until he does I don't feel I should."...
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Novak says in the forthcoming column that he initially refused to reveal he sources in an October 2003 interview with three FBI officials. He says he remained reluctant to testify before Fitzgerald, even with the waivers the three officials had given the prosecutor, but that his lawyer told him he was sure to lose a costly legal battle and be cited for contempt of court. Novak says he testified before a grand jury a few weeks later, in February 2004, after reading a statement about his discomfort in discussing confidential sources.
He said he is speaking out now because Fitzgerald has notified his attorneys that the investigation, as it relates to him, has been concluded....
Republican talking points have achieved some success in muddying the waters by insisting that Robert Novak's outing of CIA clandestine officer, Valerie Plame, was not a violation of the law.
The 1982 Intelligence Iden ies Protection Act defines a "covert" agent as one who has been involved in a clandestine operation outside the United States in the last five years. Plame was involved in exactly that. The Act further stipulates that the iden y of every covert agent is classified information.
The CIA filed a criminal referral with the Department of Justice regarding the leak of Valerie Plame's name in September 2003. The CIA obviously considered her to be a covert agent, since provisions of the Act would not have otherwise applied.
According to the Act, and according to the CIA, she was indeed a covert agent at the time her iden y was illegally revealed by the Bush Administration, in an act of revenge against Joe Wilson because he had exposed their lies about Iraq trying to buy yellowcake uranium.
According to former CIA spokesman, Bill Harlow, "...after Novak's call, he checked Plame's status and confirmed that she was an undercover operative. He said he called Novak back to repeat that the story Novak had related to him was wrong and that Plame's name should not be used. But he did not tell Novak directly that she was undercover because that was classified." He also said that Wilson's wife had not authorized the mission and that if he did write about it, her name should not be revealed. (Washington Post, 27 July 2005).
Novak didn't just out Plame. He also outed the entire CIA WMD counterproliferation network that she headed. Plame outing, July 14, 2003. The outing of our counterproliferation network's brass plate company, Brewster-Jennings, July 22, 2003, an act that put all of the covert agents and contacts in this network at risk of getting killed, and disabled all projects.
If we ever get a real government maybe they'll investigate Rove's involvement?
Yahoo NewsBy PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
54 minutes ago
- Columnist Robert Novak said publicly for the first time Tuesday that White House political adviser Karl Rove was a source for his story outing the iden y of CIA officer Valerie Plame.WASHINGTON
In a column, Novak also says his recollection of his conversation with Rove differs from what the Rove camp has said.
"I have revealed Rove's name because his attorney has divulged the substance of our conversation, though in a form different from my recollection," Novak wrote. Novak did not elaborate.
A spokesman for Rove's legal team, Mark Corallo, said that Rove did not even know Plame's name at the time he spoke with Novak, that the columnist called Rove, not the other way around, and that Rove simply said he had heard the same information that Novak passed along to him regarding Plame.
No amount of word parsing will save Novak from future prosecution if we ever get a real Congress. It doesn't matter where he got Plame's name from, the fact remains that he outed a covert agent, Rove confirmed it and later lied to Fitzgerald about it.
Here dan, read the complete column and you see what the truth is.
www.suntimes.com
My role in the Plame leak probe
July 12, 2006
BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
WASHINGTON -- Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has informed my attorneys that, after 2-1/2 years, his investigation of the CIA leak case concerning matters directly relating to me has been concluded. That frees me to reveal my role in the federal inquiry that, at the request of Fitzgerald, I have kept secret.
I have cooperated in the investigation while trying to protect journalistic privileges under the First Amendment and shield sources who have not revealed themselves. I have been subpoenaed by and testified to a federal grand jury. Published reports that I took the Fifth Amendment, made a plea bargain with the prosecutors or was a prosecutorial target were all untrue.
For nearly the entire time of his investigation, Fitzgerald knew -- independent of me -- the iden y of the sources I used in my column of July 14, 2003. A federal investigation was triggered when I reported that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, was employed by the CIA and helped initiate his 2002 mission to Niger. That Fitzgerald did not indict any of these sources may indicate his conclusion that none of them violated the Intelligence Iden ies Protection Act.
Presidential adviser Karl Rove talks with columnist Robert Novak at a party celebrating the 40th anniversary of Novak’s column in June 2003. Rove’s button reads, “I’m a source, not a target.” (AP)
Some journalists have badgered me to disclose my role in the case, even demanding I reveal my sources -- identified in the column as two senior Bush administration officials and an unspecified CIA source. I have promised to discuss my role in the investigation when permitted by the prosecution, and I do so now.
The news broke Sept. 26, 2003, that the Justice Department was investigating the CIA leak case. I contacted my longtime attorney, Lester Hyman, who brought his partner at Swidler Berlin, James Hamilton, into the case. Hamilton urged me not to comment publicly on the case, and I have followed that advice for the most part.
The FBI soon asked to interview me, prompting my first major decision. My attorneys advised me that I had no certain cons utional basis to refuse cooperation if subpoenaed by a grand jury. To do so would make me subject to imprisonment and inevitably result in court decisions that would diminish press freedom, all at heavy personal legal costs.
Sources signed waivers
I was interrogated at the Swidler Berlin offices on Oct. 7, 2003, by an FBI inspector and two agents. I had not identified my sources to my attorneys, and I told them I would not reveal them to the FBI. I did disclose how Valerie Wilson's role was reported to me, but the FBI did not press me to disclose my sources.
THE TIMELINE
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On Dec. 30, 2003, the Justice Department named Fitzgerald as special prosecutor. An appointment was made for Fitzgerald to interview me at Swidler Berlin on Jan. 14, 2004. The problem facing me was that the special prosecutor had obtained signed waivers from every official who might have given me information about Wilson's wife.
That created a dilemma. I did not believe blanket waivers in any way relieved me of my journalistic responsibility to protect a source. Hamilton told me that I was sure to lose a case in the courts at great expense. Nevertheless, I still felt I could not reveal their names.
However, on Jan. 12, two days before my meeting with Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor informed Hamilton that he would be bringing to the Swidler Berlin offices only two waivers. One was by my principal source in the Valerie Wilson column, a source whose name has not yet been revealed. The other was by presidential adviser Karl Rove, whom I interpret as confirming my primary source's information. In other words, the special prosecutor knew the names of my sources.
When Fitzgerald arrived, he had a third waiver in hand -- from Bill Harlow, the CIA public information officer who was my CIA source for the column confirming Mrs. Wilson's iden y. I answered questions using the names of Rove, Harlow and my primary source.
Testified before grand jury
I had a second session with Fitzgerald at Swidler Berlin on Feb. 5, 2004, after which I was subpoenaed to appear before the grand jury. I testified there at the U.S. courthouse in Washington on Feb. 25.
In these four appearances with federal authorities, I declined to answer when the questioning touched on matters beyond the CIA leak case. Neither the FBI nor the special prosecutor pressed me.
Primary source not revealed
I have revealed Rove's name because his attorney has divulged the substance of our conversation, though in a form different from my recollection. I have revealed Harlow's name because he has publicly disclosed his version of our conversation, which also differs from my recollection. My primary source has not come forward to identify himself.
When I testified before the grand jury, I was permitted to read a statement that I had written expressing my discomfort at disclosing confidential conversations with news sources. It should be remembered that the special prosecutor knew their iden ies and did not learn them from me.
In my sworn testimony, I said what I have contended in my columns and on television: Joe Wilson's wife's role in ins uting her husband's mission was revealed to me in the middle of a long interview with an official who I have previously said was not a political gunslinger. After the federal investigation was announced, he told me through a third party that the disclosure was inadvertent on his part.
Following my interview with the primary source, I sought out the second administration official and the CIA spokesman for confirmation.
I learned Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who in America.
I considered his wife's role in initiating Wilson's mission, later confirmed by the Senate Intelligence Committee, to be a previously undisclosed part of an important news story. I reported it on that basis.
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All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/index.html
"Valeria Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community. Valerie Wilson's friends, neighbors, college classmates had no idea she had another life. The fact that she was a CIA officer was not well known for her protection or for the benefit of all of us. It's important that a CIA officer's iden y be protected, they be protected not just for officer but for the nations security.
Valeria Wilson's cover was blown in July 2003. The first sign of her cover being blown was Mr. Novack published a column on July 14tn 2003. .."
Source US Dept. of Justice of Special Counsel..
No matter what the rove apologists say Fitgerald had a rather interesting story as to explain why he could not prove it was done with mailicious intent. He used a pitcher hitting a batter as his example. He explained that only the pitcher know's if he did it on purpose and to find out otherwise the pitcher himslef would have to admit to doing it. But hey this administration's track record has been nothing but honest..
Last edited by George Gervin's Afro; 07-12-2006 at 09:22 AM.
Did you even read Novak's column? Rove confirmed, the CIA confirmed. They did
not disclose. Or out her. Joe Wilsom himself, outed his wife. Watch Novak tonight
at 5PM on Fox. He is going to be on there.
Well I could read Novak's column or believe the Dept of Justice? Who do you think I should rely on?
Never mind. You wouldn't accept anything but your version.
Never mind that a lawyer is trying to make a career out of his special prosecutor
status. A lawyer is a lawyer is a lawyer. Money and fame are the game.
And funny thing happened. No one has been charged for disclosing her status as
a CIA operative, have they? Hmmmmm, wonder why?
Please indicate which of the DOJ do ents on that site contain these quotes. I've searched all the ones on the index page to which you linked and found nothing of the sort.
Admittedly, I could have searched wrong or it could be contained in one of the do ents linked on another index page to which the bottom link, on your page, took me. I copied and pasted the quote, "Valeria Wilson was a CIA officer," from the beginning of your quote, in the .pdf search utility and got nothing.
I'd be interested in the context in which these statements were made. They sound like something Joe Wilson may have said in an affidavit and not the findings of the Special Prosecutor. I can't see a formal finding of the investigating body using the term "blown" to describe a criminal act. Help me out here...
That really is going to depend on who you were quoting in your post and in what context it was said.
As of now, I'm dubious that your quotes are the Department of Justice speaking.
October 28, 2005 Press Conference. adobe linked do ent.
It was Fitzgerald's press conference transcript.
he explains why. The only persons who know if they did this maliciuosly would have to own up to it. I know you must believe Rove and Cheney's office made simple mistakes..no harm mean't..
I'm sorry did you just tell me that I won't accept any other version than mine mr kettle?
I just screwed up and erased a lengthy post that modified my last response...
Suffice it to say; I found the quote, it was from Fitzgerald, and he did seem to indicate that Valerie Plame had been outed. I wondered why Fitzgerald isn't pursuing prosecution of the leakers?
I believe it is because he knows the elements of the crime were not met.
In a technical sense, Valerie Plame wasn't a covert agent of the CIA. She hadn't been since being outed by the Russians a decade before.
Second, there was no criminal intent to reveal her covert status. Valerie Plame was only ever discussed (except by Joe Wilson himself) in the context of her being 1) Joe Wilson's wife and, 2) her being the CIA employee who got Joe Wilson the gig in Niger...something she wrangled not because of her covert status but because of her public role at the CIA, that of being a WMD expert.
Both of these facts were known outside the CIA. Joe Wilson was the one that started saying she was a spy.
Finally, there are time elements to consider. The statute requires the person to have been a covert agent within a certain time period. It appears Plame had not been in that capacity for sometime -- a period longer than was required by statute.
I hate it when I screw up a post like that.
None of this would have happened if wilson would have lied like bush wanted him to.
I guess this comes down to you believe the White House and I don't.
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