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they want a rebounding guy
smith might do that IF HE MAKES THE TEAM
spur fans want to know they addressed that issue
- Shaq is no longer a force in the NBA, So two Big Players Can Do The Job to Body him throughout the Game. Nazr Mohamed is not a good defender and is not a force on offense so you will see how detroit will sooner then you think regret the signing.
- Rasho was not a good rebounder for his size and just couldnīt stand in front of players in this new fast paced NBA last year.
- I didnīt watch Matt BOnner nor Erick Williams play last year but both will help the Spurs win Games. From my point of view Bonner is a good shooter and will help to space up the floor for TP penetration or TD passes.
- I remember Erick Williams playin in Boston and he was a pretty good defender. At 6ī8 220 lbs. he can defend the long, athletic SF of this league, at least try to.
- These Moves gave us some flexibility for the next year aquisitions.
I think that we did good B+ moves
they want a rebounding guy
smith might do that IF HE MAKES THE TEAM
spur fans want to know they addressed that issue
We have no rebounding. We have no youth. The guys we added this summer are not very good.
What were you expecting anyway? Outside of Ben Wallace and maybe Pryz, there wasn't much of anything this summer anyway, especially in areas that the Spurs are looking for.
I get elelphants out for you
no do you feel better
which all means that we'll be a far worse rebounding team that we were last year. That doesn't translate into many playoff victories.
Elson or Butler or both, will prove out to be better than Rashosniff and Lobsterclaws Mohammed.
But SPurs fans always have to about something.
Sad to see Nazr go (I don't blame him at all), but excited to be seeing Elson's best in silver and black.
Besides that we did fine.
This is a crazy voteI think that we did good B+ moves
This is the roster as it stands
Parker - Udrih - Vaughn (31)
Manu - Finley (33) - Sanders
Bowen (35) - Barry (35) - Williams (34)
Duncan (30) - Bonner - Horry (36)
Oberto (31)
Does this look like an improvement? I want you to look closely at that bottom line on the depth chart ....
B+ ?
With all that age .... where are the players that are being groomed as their replacements? Where is a player with "upside"?
Last edited by Dalhoop; 07-15-2006 at 07:08 AM.
Based on need
Need 1 (Better center play): Removed both Nazr and Rasho and added nobody ... GRADE F
Need 2 (back-up for Parker): Signed 31yr journeyman Vaughn ... GRADE D
Need 3 (Athleteic SF): 34yr Williams ..... GRADE D-
Need 4 (Back-up for Duncan): Bonner (plays totally different game ... outside shooter) .... GRADE C-
Over all need addressing: Grade D
Effect on roster: F (you have no center)
I actually agree with face Mavs Fan over here if we don't get Butler. Oh and Dalhoop have no center either unless you consider Diop or the stiff who got beaten out by Diop acceptable.
The Mavs needs:
1.)Needing the help of the Refs to bull your way back to the finals... Grade F
2.)Finding Irk No ski some testicles,composure, and not needing to rely on the refs in the clutch to bail him out...Grade F
3.)Praying that the Spurs and the Suns dont reload (especially with Amare coming back your team is ed if he comes back in good form)...A+
Go do yourself a favor and brag to your pals on how the Mavericks are the only NBA Texas team to have NEVER won the trophy. Also brag to them about how you bull ted your way to the finals but couldnt get the ing job done!
Oh its on now ... just kiddingOh and Dalhoop have no center either unless you consider Diop or the stiff who got beaten out by Diop acceptable.
At least we have TWO bodies
These grades are all wrong.1.)Needing the help of the Refs to bull your way back to the finals... Grade F
2.)Finding Irk No ski some testicles,composure, and not needing to rely on the refs in the clutch to bail him out...Grade F
3.)Praying that the Spurs and the Suns dont reload (especially with Amare coming back your team is ed if he comes back in good form)...A+
1) How can you grade us on getting back to the Finals when the season hasn't been played yet? I would give an incomplete on that one.
2) Granted, I am not his doctor, but he showed some testicular aggression on that exercise bike didn't he? He did drive to rim to accept the gift of Manus hand foul .... I would give that a C
3) A grade for Praying ..... Okay, I'll take the A
That adds up to a B with one incomplete. Still better then the Spurs
First, it's too soon to grade the offseason but I agree Spurs have make good moves for the moment.
If we don't make another move (and I doubt it will be the case), we are a worst team than last year but we are a better team against teams like Mavs.
Its true it is too soon, as I tried to point out with showing the current roster with only Oberto at Center and no back-upFirst, it's too soon to grade the offseason but I agree Spurs have make good moves for the moment.
The team HAS to make further moves (or the current, on the table moves work out) because they don't have enough bodies.If we don't make another move (and I doubt it will be the case), we are a worst team than last year but we are a better team against teams like Mavs.
About the Mavs ... This team would be the same as last years vs the Mavs, only this time they would have to play without a center ... they don't have one after all. I think that playing small ball all year would work to the Spurs advantage vs the Mavs, but cost them against the rest of the league.
I don't think that they would win however because the age problem just gets bigger and bigger with eash passing year
The current roster doesn't play.
Judging how a team has addressed his need while the offseason has just started is just stupid.
What's your point, Spurs aren't ready on july 15th ?
As fas as I know, playoffs start in 9 months.
Spurs will be better against Mavs if they don't do a move. Vaughn and Udrih can't be worse than NVE. Williams and Bonner will be more helpfull than Nazr and Rasho.
Stop thinking, because you say stupid things. Most of Spurs' players will be better next year than this year.
I didn't start the thread talk to someone else about it.The current roster doesn't play. Judging how a team has addressed his need while the offseason has just started is just stupid.
My point is that you have thirteen bodys and that more moves have to be made ..... did you read the post?What's your point, Spurs aren't ready on july 15th? As fas as I know, playoffs start in 9 months.
AgreedSpurs will be better against Mavs if they don't do a move. Vaughn and Udrih can't be worse than NVE. Williams and Bonner will be more helpfull than Nazr and Rasho.
Because age doesn't matter in Spur-land?Stop thinking, because you say stupid things. Most of Spurs' players will be better next year than this year.
Here's the lineup at the end of the season:
Parker - Van Exel
Manu - Barry
Bowen
Finley - Horry
Duncan
Looks like a in' improvement to me.
Grading moves isn't the same thing than grading a roster. If you don't undertand the difference, I can't do nothing for you.
You're the first to start looking at the roster and even if you weren't the first, it's not because someone make something stupid that you had to do the same.
If a guy jump in SA swamp, will you jump too ?
... And Spurs are making some moves with Elson and Butler.
You aren't a worse player at 25 than at 24 or at 31 than at 30.
Only players that are old enough to be in the cateory : will be worse each years are Finley, Horry, Bowen and Barry.
Finley will likely be better because it will be his second year with Spurs and he will be more comfortable.
Horry has been so bad that even if he is worse that won't be a huge loss.
Barry isn't a big factor too.
There are Bruce case but :
- He has made his best season this year.
- His conditioning is great.
- He is never injured (something like 400 games without a miss)
- He hasn't played a lot of minutes in nba (he has played some season in europe where you play way less). As an example, Dirk has played 25,000 min in nba and Bruce 20,000 min.
San Antonio has a swamp?
The River Walk according to the great Mark Cuban.
He's apparently never seen the Trinity.
Move don't take place in a vac . There is a cause and effect .. Rasho and Nazr in themselves are good, if just for the money. You cannot ignore the fact that the Spurs have lost both of the centers from last year and replaced them with nothing.Grading moves isn't the same thing than grading a roster. If you don't undertand the difference, I can't do nothing for you.
A trade of Parker for .... Dwight Howard would be seen as a bad move, not because of the talent in the trade, but it where it leaves the team (without a PG and with two starting PFs)
The moves of Nazr and Rasho are good in a vac , but it leaves the team without a center
His opening statment about two bodies on Shaq opened the roster question, in fact the Spurs only have Oberto at center right now ... they don't have two bodies.You're the first to start looking at the roster and even if you weren't the first, it's not because someone make something stupid that you had to do the same.
If a guy jump in SA swamp, will you jump too ?
You have swamps down there? I didn't know that.
I am here to post on topics ... both good and bad ... its what I do
The question was to this pointAnd Spurs are making some moves with Elson and Butler.
The last paragraph is long so I wont quote it.
Bowen is a marvel, I will give you that. I think that he can do it again and play big minutes ... he is not the concern.
Finley on the other hand led the league in minutes for several years and dispite his game now, was a slasher ... there are alot of miles on the knees and legs .... I don't think that he will have a health season.
Barry although "not a factor" is on the roster and will see the floor .... his age will be on display ... the same goes for Horry.
All this means nothing if everyone stays healthy, but with that many players 30+ years of age, what are the chanses that they will all stay healthy? When one goes down it puts pressure on the next ... and more minutes ... and more chance for injury.
The team needs to get younger, they need to get more athletic, they need to get faster .... the moves (to this point) have done nothing about this (Butler will help, Elson is already 30) and have gutted the big men from the team with only Bonner to show.
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