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    ...and damn the Nuggets. They like JR Smith?

    I guess he's better then nothing.

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    Oh, this is about the trade I just heard about on KSAT... it's not final yet.


    Elson/Eisley for JR Smith.

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    The trade is Eisley and two 2nd rounders for JR Smith.

    And it's been talked about in the NBA forum for the last week.

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    Ben Gordon = Aldridge

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    The trade is Eisley and two 2nd rounders for JR Smith.

    And it's been talked about in the NBA forum for the last week.



    That's not what Greg Simmons said.

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    Denver can't even trade Elson. He doesn't belong to them.

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    Denver can't even trade Elson. He doesn't belong to them.
    Ya, they can...

    They would match the offer, then package him in a deal. That's what Simmons mentioned is likely to happen.

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    ...and I would love to be wrong.

    I'd like nothing more than to see Elson as our starting center next year.

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    link?

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    Turn on your tv?

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    ...and I would love to be wrong.

    I'd like nothing more than to see Elson as our starting center next year.


    Why would you want to see that?

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    Why would you want to see that?
    Because he's an awesome shot-blocking center.

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    Ya, they can...

    They would match the offer, then package him in a deal. That's what Simmons mentioned is likely to happen.
    After matching, for a year they can only trade him if he consents to be traded. Since he doesn't want them to match, I'm thinking he's not likely to make that concession ahead of time.

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    RIF - It was on the news, allegedly.

    If they want to trade Elson after matching, they'll have to wait months, I think it's four for a newly signed FA. Besides that, the salaries don't even work. Elson ALONE would be too much to offset JR Smith's contract.

    The much more likely scenario is the one discussed in the NBA forum: Eisely signs a non-guaranteed contract, is traded with 2 second rounders for SMith, and is then cut.

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    After matching, for a year they can only trade him if he consents to be traded. Since he doesn't want them to match, I'm thinking he's not likely to make that concession ahead of time.
    Interesting.

    I'm not sure about the details, but I am sure that is what I heard Greg Simmons say on the 6 o'clock news. I hope you're right, I'd like to see him (and Mihm possibly now) here next year.

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    I don't think they can sign-and-trade Elson because sign-and-trade contracts have to be 3-years. If they match the Spurs offer, that's only a 2 year deal.

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    I don't think they can sign-and-trade Elson because sign-and-trade contracts have to be 3-years. If they match the Spurs offer, that's only a 2 year deal.
    He doesn't have a say in it does he? As a restricted free agent he's pretty much Denver's as far as if they want to match and keep/trade/tickle him right?

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    He doesn't have a say in it does he? As a restricted free agent he's pretty much Denver's as far as if they want to match and keep/trade/tickle him right?
    The league rule is that sign and trade contracts must be 3 years or longer.

    So if they match the Spurs 2 year offer, they can't then trade him.

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    Simmons was just reporting what it said in the Denver newspapers ... that with the trade for JR Smith, the Nuggets are more likely to match on Elson.

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    RIF - It was on the news, allegedly.

    If they want to trade Elson after matching, they'll have to wait months, I think it's four for a newly signed FA. Besides that, the salaries don't even work. Elson ALONE would be too much to offset JR Smith's contract.

    The much more likely scenario is the one discussed in the NBA forum: Eisely signs a non-guaranteed contract, is traded with 2 second rounders for SMith, and is then cut.
    That part isn't true. He would become BYC as soon as he's signed. So they could only take 1/2 the salary back anyway.

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    Greg Simmons is a tool who has no idea...he is probably getting his info from fan forums.

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    The league rule is that sign and trade contracts must be 3 years or longer.

    So if they match the Spurs 2 year offer, they can't then trade him.
    Does that mean the deal can't happen, or does it mean they have to sign him for 3 years first then be able to trade him?

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    Oberto will be our starting center. And Mihm will be the backup.

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    Does that mean the deal can't happen, or does it mean they have to sign him for 3 years first then be able to trade him?
    They can't sign him for three years. The only thing they can do is MATCH the Spurs offer, which is two years.

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    In order for a sign and trade to occur all the parties have to agree to rescind the offer sheet first.

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