It is a Jihad for the sake of God and will last until (our) religion prevails

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It is a Jihad for the sake of God and will last until (our) religion prevails

All the world is a battlefield open in front of us

Ayman al-Zawahri, July 27, 2006.


Sadly, libs will still think we can just withdraw our troops from that part of the world and they will go away. I have never seen a more direct statement by anyone from AQ about what we're dealing with, maybe some of you otherwise ignorant fools will get a clue after this one.

But I doubt it.

[boutons_]

"we can just withdraw our troops from that part of the world and they will go away"

who said or thinks that? link please.

With our troops in Iraq, the terrorist have poured in by the 1000s where they weren't before, while the Taliban and tribal/drug warlards resurge in Afghanistan. The red-state dumb s call this progress.

What is absolutely clear is that no progress is being made in Iraq, the civil war is well under way, dubya/dichkhead/rummy don't have a ing clue about how to get the USA out of Iraq.

"last throes" "turning points" "elections" "fake cons ution", spin spin spin.

3000 Iraqis killed per month.

and dubya fiddles his same old tune "stay the course" and acts like he's done his job.

[clambake]

If you believe every word of Al-zawahari, then you believe every word from the White House.

Step right up and pick a winner!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

yeah, I don't think its a matter of wether you should stay or not, or even wether you want to stay or not. Right now, its about wether or not you can afford to stay in Iraq, and whoever thinks you can isn't paying too much attention. Ever heard the frase "don't bite more than you can chew" well guess what, you're half way there.

[Ocotillo]

Sadly we are chasing our tail in Iraq while Pakistan harbors Bin Laden and his side kick baba louie.

Think about that. Mushareff is one bullet away from chaos in Pakistan with some guys we don't like taking over. They have a guy who they slapped on the wrist for giving nuclear secrets to Iran, Libya and N. Korea

For all appearances it looks like Pakistan and India may ramp up the arms race again.

Israel is doing a scorched earth policy in Lebanon really winning the hearts and minds of the non-Hezbollah population.

Turkey is sabre rattling with the PKK in northern Iraq.

No wonder Zawahri is feeling his oats. Damn, go get Bin Laen for God's sake.

[T-Pain]

im gonna put a jihad on YOU!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

With our troops in Iraq, the terrorist have poured in by the 1000s where they weren't before, while the Taliban and tribal/drug warlards resurge in Afghanistan. The red-state dumb s call this progress.

Some of us dumb s with degrees in history and world politics are smart enough to know that history will show the ragheads showing up in Afghanistan and Iraq is a great thing. That means they aren't showing up in America and hijacking planes to fly into buildings.

Let's see... unarmed civilians in buildings and on planes, or the best armed fighting force in the world (U.S. military). Hmm, who would I rather have the hajis attacking...

Sadly we are chasing our tail in Iraq while Pakistan harbors Bin Laden and his side kick baba louie.

Think about that. Mushareff is one bullet away from chaos in Pakistan with some guys we don't like taking over.

If the left had the balls for it, we would have just nuked the Afghanistan/Pakistan border after 9/11 and we wouldn't be where we are.

It's my big criticism with the Bush administration. Sadly, we are fighting the war on terror like we fought Vietnam - too much concern for what the media and polls and the anti-war folks are saying.

If you're going to fight a war, you do it how Truman did it in WWII - the only way to win is the complete and utter destruction of your enemy.

We should have nuked the Afghan/Pakistan border on September 12, 2001, but then you've got the pussies on the left screaming for impeachment, and the other half of the equation is that you open pandora's box as far as the nuclear scenario goes.

It sucks but it is what it is. The sad thing is if my gut is right several years from now a nuke is going to go off in an American city, possibly several, as the penultimate 'event' dreamed up by bin Laden.

When that day comes, we will respond in kind by wiping out any Islamofascist regions we know of that can be taken out with nukes. And the reason I say it's sad is twofold.

One is that a lot of Americans are going to have to die at the hand of radical Islam for people in this country, including those on BOTH sides of the aisle in D.C., to get the hint (of course D.C. would probably be target numero uno, so that point may be moot).

The second is that it could have been prevented if we would have gone for the kill shot on the Afghan/Pakistan border when we knew all the assholes were in the same area.

In radical Islam, we are facing the same ed up idealism that the world ultimately had to wipe out with WWII - Naziism.

But too many people in the world today are too PC, too much of pussies, to recognize it and work towards doing something about it.

[Nesterofish]

Just go ahaed and kill all the Muslimms alrady. End of problem.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

If the left had the balls for it, we would have just nuked the Afghanistan/Pakistan border after 9/11 and we wouldn't be where we are.

It's my big criticism with the Bush administration. Sadly, we are fighting the war on terror like we fought Vietnam - too much concern for what the media and polls and the anti-war folks are saying.

If you're going to fight a war, you do it how Truman did it in WWII - the only way to win is the complete and utter destruction of your enemy.

We should have nuked the Afghan/Pakistan border on September 12, 2001, but then you've got the pussies on the left screaming for impeachment, and the other half of the equation is that you open pandora's box as far as the nuclear scenario goes.

It sucks but it is what it is. The sad thing is if my gut is right several years from now a nuke is going to go off in an American city, possibly several, as the penultimate 'event' dreamed up by bin Laden.

When that day comes, we will respond in kind by wiping out any Islamofascist regions we know of that can be taken out with nukes. And the reason I say it's sad is twofold.

One is that a lot of Americans are going to have to die at the hand of radical Islam for people in this country, including those on BOTH sides of the aisle in D.C., to get the hint (of course D.C. would probably be target numero uno, so that point may be moot).

The second is that it could have been prevented if we would have gone for the kill shot on the Afghan/Pakistan border when we knew all the assholes were in the same area.

In radical Islam, we are facing the same ed up idealism that the world ultimately had to wipe out with WWII - Naziism.

But too many people in the world today are too PC, too much of pussies, to recognize it and work towards doing something about it.

you think not wanting to kill millions of innocent people is just being PC?? I have to say Aggie, we've had our disagreements in the past, but after having read this bull I think you are a ing moron!

[MannyIsGod]

At some point the argument has to be realized. At some point the debate has to commence in earnest and people have to stop slinging stupid rhetoric all around. At some point there actually has to be constructive dialouge as far as a way to secure this country so that we don't have to deal with the entire world pissed off at us.

And make no mistake about it, almost the entire world is VERY pissed off at us at the moment.

I don't understand why AHF thinks that another rhetoric filled speech from an AQ figurehead contains some breakthrough information. It is no more relevent to understanding the situation in that portion of the world than any of Bush' stupid "Bring it on" comments are. They're political devices meant to rally support in the same way. It is ing propaganda.

If you want to sway me as to what needs to be done with our forgien policy, you're never going to do it with a snippit of a stupid ing speech no matter who it originates from. Why don't you try with a factual study or 2 on the motivations of terrorists along with a study on the effects of Americna middle east forgien policy.

I'm tired of the same old bull . Bring substance or just stfu already.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

At some point the argument has to be realized. At some point the debate has to commence in earnest and people have to stop slinging stupid rhetoric all around. At some point there actually has to be constructive dialouge as far as a way to secure this country so that we don't have to deal with the entire world pissed off at us.

And make no mistake about it, almost the entire world is VERY pissed off at us at the moment.

I don't understand why AHF thinks that another rhetoric filled speech from an AQ figurehead contains some breakthrough information. It is no more relevent to understanding the situation in that portion of the world than any of Bush' stupid "Bring it on" comments are. They're political devices meant to rally support in the same way. It is ing propaganda.

If you want to sway me as to what needs to be done with our forgien policy, you're never going to do it with a snippit of a stupid ing speech no matter who it originates from. Why don't you try with a factual study or 2 on the motivations of terrorists along with a study on the effects of Americna middle east forgien policy.

I'm tired of the same old bull . Bring substance or just stfu already.

A- ING-MEN!

[Nesterofish]

At some point the argument has to be realized. At some point the debate has to commence in earnest and people have to stop slinging stupid rhetoric all around. At some point there actually has to be constructive dialouge as far as a way to secure this country so that we don't have to deal with the entire world pissed off at us.

And make no mistake about it, almost the entire world is VERY pissed off at us at the moment.

I don't understand why AHF thinks that another rhetoric filled speech from an AQ figurehead contains some breakthrough information. It is no more relevent to understanding the situation in that portion of the world than any of Bush' stupid "Bring it on" comments are. They're political devices meant to rally support in the same way. It is ing propaganda.

If you want to sway me as to what needs to be done with our forgien policy, you're never going to do it with a snippit of a stupid ing speech no matter who it originates from. Why don't you try with a factual study or 2 on the motivations of terrorists along with a study on the effects of Americna middle east forgien policy.

I'm tired of the same old bull . Bring substance or just stfu already.

And while you'e sitting there looking for consturctive dialog, OOOOH Zawahiri nukes your city and your dead. We can put WHY DO THEY HATE US on your tomstonre.

[MannyIsGod]

Because you can't defend your country while looking for a long term solution at the same time?

[Nesterofish]

Because you can't defend your country while looking for a long term solution at the same time?

Dead people can't be terorists then that is a long term soltuion.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

And while you'e sitting there looking for consturctive dialog, OOOOH Zawahiri nukes your city and your dead. We can put WHY DO THEY HATE US on your tomstonre.

yes, because nuking the out of the mid east is going to bring about the end of terrorism, right? yeah, bright ing idea, seeing as though Islam hasn't proven to be that resilient right? and nevermind what the rest of the world thinks about it right? Using a nuclear bomb has nothing to do with balls like our friend Einstein over there seems to think.

[Nesterofish]

yes, because nuking the out of the mid east is going to bring about the end of terrorism, right? yeah, bright ing idea, seeing as though Islam hasn't proven to be that resilient right? and nevermind what the rest of the world thinks about it right? Using a nuclear bomb has nothing to do with balls like our friend Einstein over there seems to think.

They think were weak becuase we dont take care of busienss. LIke Israel they gave away land and so they got attacked more. If we nuke them we show them who is boss. If not then if you kill 90 percent of the Muslkms then that's 90 percent fewer peor-ple to cbecome terroriysts.

[Burly_Man]

Dead people can't be terorists then that is a long term soltuion.

But they can be martyrs. Religion, no matter how poorly interpreted, only flourishes when oppressed.

[MannyIsGod]

Dead people can't be terorists then that is a long term soltuion.

Yeah, good luck with killing every terrorist out there. This is novel thinking, and I'm sure nobody has ever thought of it before. I wonder why it hasn't been done?

The sad thing is that you're pretty damn representative of the American demographic and the stupidy that clogs your brain and the rest of the idiots running around this country is the reason nothing ever gets done.

Congrats.

[Burly_Man]

They think were weak becuase we dont take care of busienss. LIke Israel they gave away land and so they got attacked more. If we nuke them we show them who is boss. If not then if you kill 90 percent of the Muslkms then that's 90 percent fewer peor-ple to cbecome terroriysts.

Why stop at 90% if there's a chance 1% of the Arab Population could potentially cause serious harm?

They don't think we are weak because we aren't taking care of business, they think we are stupid for having our Foreign Policy in the Middle East hijacked by both Israel and Iran at the same time.

[MannyIsGod]

[QUOTE=Burly_Man]Why stop at 90% if there's a chance 1% 0f the Arab Population could potentially cause serious harm?

They don't think we are weak because we aren't taking care of business, they think we are stupid for having our Foreign Policy in the Middle East hijacked by both Israel and Iraq at the same time.[/QUOTE]

[ChumpDumper]

They think were weak becuase we dont take care of busienss. LIke Israel they gave away land and so they got attacked more. If we nuke them we show them who is boss. If not then if you kill 90 percent of the Muslkms then that's 90 percent fewer peor-ple to cbecome terroriysts.

This is true. Our only choices are nuking, well, someplace and murdering over 1 billion people based solely on their religion. God has no choice but to be on our side -- we could nuke him too.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

They think were weak becuase we dont take care of busienss. LIke Israel they gave away land and so they got attacked more. If we nuke them we show them who is boss. If not then if you kill 90 percent of the Muslkms then that's 90 percent fewer peor-ple to cbecome terroriysts.

incredible... just un- ing-believable... nobody thinks the US is weak, and dropping a nuke will NOT show ANYONE who is boss. What it will do is show everyone who has complete ing disregard for innocent human life, and it will also destroy any credibility the US has left, and I say left because it is that kind of thinking that has lost much of it already.

Right now the US might not be very popular, I can't deny that, but you are respected and in spite of what you people might think, America is still regarded as a place of civility and forward thinking, a place where the thought of using a nuclear bomb on innocent civilians IS NOT A ING OPTION!! I am not saying sit idly and get nuked, by all means defend yourselves, but do it honorably, don't lower yourselves to their standards where human life has little to no value.

[Nesterofish]

Hey better them then me and my family

[MannyIsGod]

The United States will not be dropping any nuclear bombs anytime soon. Even if a terrorist organization detonated a nuclear weapon in this country, I'm pretty sure that there would not be a retaliatory strike with nuclear weapons unless it became clear that there was a nation state directly involved in the attack.

Nuking the Middle East is a non factor and if you guys want to go debate it feel free, but I'd rather look at reality instead.

[Burly_Man]

Hey better them then me and my family

In that case, make sure you know who you are aiming at. There has been way too much indiscriminate killing going around already.