I started to suggest Quentin Richardson as an alternative in my response to the "Bonzi Wells" thread and figured it was a decent enough thought to get your opinion on it.
Quentin Richardson is a Power Guard, like Bonzi, who can shoot the long ball, take players off the dribble, post them up, and rebound. He has the ability (size, strength, speed) to be a defensive force an guard 2 or 3 positions. He is only 26, versus Bonzi who is 29, and he comes with much less at ude.
Some might argue that he's a spot shooter, but I would say that he only became the 3pt specialist while in Phoenix. Before then he had a much more versatile offensive game.
I would also say that now is the prime opportunity to snag him. The Knicks have signed Jared Jeffries to an offer sheet, and have been trying to create cap and roster space by trading one of their current players. According to ESPN, one of those players is Quentin Richardson. I don't think it's unrealstic that Isaiah would be willing to take back an expiring contract and a piece player w/ less years and money than Q-Rich in return.
I'm not necessarily advocating that the Spurs grab a player who hasn't lived up to his contract thus far (mostly due to nagging injuries and fluctuating playing time), but if it's true that we are considering Bonzi Wells, I'd cast my vote for a younger, slightly cheaper, and more well-behaved player in Q-Rich.
What do you think?
No thankyou.
Q plays no defense and he's been in the league enough to attempt to play it, but just doesn't do it. I'm not convinced when you say that he can create his own shot off the dribble or rebound. He's never been known as a low post threat.
What he is now is pretty much a spot up shooter, but inconsistent as well.
I would take Bonzi because he's a much better overall player, but he too does not play defense.
He also has a bad back.
And a horrendous contract.
Just because Q played no defense in the past doesn't mean he doesn't have the capacity to play d. We've got a history of bringing in players that were never known as defensive stoppers and turning them into respectable defenders. It's one thing we do well. So I doubt that would stop us from getting him.
Secondly, you probably didn't see him play when he was on the worst team in basketball at the time (Clippers) or you would know he's very capable of posting up smaller players and driving the ball. The Knicks brought him in to do more than just shoot threes like he did in Phoenix and were convinced that Larry could break him of the habit. Only, he didn't get enough consistent minutes because of fluctuating line-ups and injury. Oh and he wasn't very incosistent a couple years ago when he played for the Suns...he led the league in three pointers made.
As far as productivity, they are nearly identical for their careers (12ppg 4+rpg), it's just the short term memory of Bonzi having an insane playoff series and Q-Rich having an off year.
As far as his "bad back", I think it's a concern but hadn't heard much about it before it was quoted in the same article that mentioned him as trade bait. I'm not lobbying us to get Q-Rich, but I think he's a superior option to Bonzi and could be had for cheaper.
chucker + bad back + huge contract =
His contract is $7.5 mil a year...what would Bonzi's be? I'm just saying as compared to Bonzi, he would cost a little less and is younger.
chucker + bad back + huge contract =
Again, only a "chucker" for one year in Phoenix, and his contract would be no more than Bonzi would ask for.
I keep hearing about this "bad back" but am unable to find any history on it. He's played in over 60 games since he came in this league before this year, except for one season w/ 59, and detail on him about getting shut down for the season last year was a sprained thumb. Someone please enlighten me as to his chronically "bad back".
I saw him chucking in LA and NY too -- just in New York everybody else was breaking plays too so it was only slightly less noticeable. He still ended up shooting 36%, so I don't know how you could say he got any better. In fact he hasn't shot over 40% since his 2nd year in the league.
That's a chucker.
I know that he missed time this past season because of the back problem. I don't know that he had back issues in previous years.
January 2006:
The season has been one of pain and personal misfortune for Quentin Richardson. He attended the Knicks' three-hour practice Sunday, but, because of a back injury that has regressed rather than healed, he is not expected to face the Phoenix Suns on Monday night at Madison Square Garden
December 2005:
Knicks starter Quentin Richardson left with 6:05 remaining in the half because of back spasms. He had six points and six rebounds in 16 minutes.
Quentin Richardson
“I figure it (back spasms) is not that big of a deal. I plan on playing (vs. Milwaukee), but at the same time I still have to play it by ear and see how I am feeling and see how everything goes.”
Qrich is horrible. How is this even debateable?
Oh and ChumpDumper is right .. he defines chucker. He hasn't shot 40% since 01-02. That's pathetic.
And when was the last time Bonzi avg'd 4 rpg?
05-06 when he averaged 7.7
thats right, and he also only led the entire playoffs with 12 rpg. I believe he was only the first guard to do that in the history of the league. But I digress, QRich and Bonzi must have the same rebounding ability.05-06 when he averaged 7.7
Seriously though Bonzi averages 5 rpg in the seasons he plays over 30mpg. Obviously his 7.7 this season was because it was a contract year. He's much better than Q though.
I doubt it was because of a contract year. I really think it was because Brad Miller is such a puss on the glass.
And Bonzi is much better than Q, but both of them are wanting big money, and neither is worth it anymore. If you guys could somehow get Bonzi for a 2 year lease, you'd have an instant Championship.
Well, if that meant slightly fewer shots of Eva during games, I'd have to consider it.
Chances are they would sit together though
It's not a matter of >, it's a matter of seeing anyone who has nothing to do with the game too much during a game.
Eva doesn't need defending agaisnt me any more than she needs more face time during Spur games. Get over it.
Neither of them are comming to the San Antonio. Do you guys really think that Pop and R.C. would even think about trading for Richardson? He has nothing to offer us. He's a mediocre player with a huge contract.
And Bonzi is not signing here. So put those crazy thoughts away people.
It could be a lot worse, you could have to see Cuban 20+ times every game like I do.
You're right, we bring in players and attempt to change them into respectable defenders. Problem is, Q does not have that capacity nor the desire to become one. Not even Larry Brown could get Q to play some defense. If he's going to continue to flare up with back problems (sorry but back problems always seem to linger) I have to question his chances to become a legit defender.Just because Q played no defense in the past doesn't mean he doesn't have the capacity to play d. We've got a history of bringing in players that were never known as defensive stoppers and turning them into respectable defenders. It's one thing we do well. So I doubt that would stop us from getting him.
Secondly, you probably didn't see him play when he was on the worst team in basketball at the time (Clippers) or you would know he's very capable of posting up smaller players and driving the ball. The Knicks brought him in to do more than just shoot threes like he did in Phoenix and were convinced that Larry could break him of the habit. Only, he didn't get enough consistent minutes because of fluctuating line-ups and injury. Oh and he wasn't very incosistent a couple years ago when he played for the Suns...he led the league in three pointers made.
As far as productivity, they are nearly identical for their careers (12ppg 4+rpg), it's just the short term memory of Bonzi having an insane playoff series and Q-Rich having an off year.
As far as his "bad back", I think it's a concern but hadn't heard much about it before it was quoted in the same article that mentioned him as trade bait. I'm not lobbying us to get Q-Rich, but I think he's a superior option to Bonzi and could be had for cheaper.
Yeah, I saw him play in Clipper land. All I saw was him was half-assing on defense, alley-ooping with Miles, and slaping himself on the head with his fists when he dunked....maybe if he would of not have been show boating....he could of gotten back on transition.
And most importantly, he's a chucker who to my knowledge has never come through in the clutch.
Pass.
By the way, he's not superior to Bonzi, and people should get off this Bonzi wells fantasy too.....he's not coming.
Which, I say again, is not her fault. If you want to about it, blame the media.
It puzzles me why so many men dislike her. I could understand women being jealous, but there seem to be a lot more men who have some kind of problem with her.
No, she doesn't need me to defend her, but it bugs me when people attack others that they don't know. She goes to games because she loves Tony. She just so happens to be a celebrity and the national media loves to show celebrities at sporting events, i.e. Laker games. Would you have this much hate for another Spurs wife/girlfriend if the camera panned to them during the games?
Sorry, I know this thread is about Bonzi and Q-Rich... the Eva bashing just pisses me off.
To be fair Chump never said he disliked Eva, just that he wanted to see less of her.
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