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Box Score?
Usa 119- China 73
Last edited by gus; 08-07-2006 at 11:04 AM.
Box Score?
the score is really bloated USA has ways to go to improve their defense...im not raining on the parade but china played the US well... yao was out with an injury so was wang zhi zhi
2 things that factored in greatly w/ the score are
-offensive rebounding (they were manhandling the chinese)
-fastbreak (for some reason the chinese guys weren't coming back for defense fast enough USA often had a players way in front
i was really impressed w/ Carmelo, Jamison and Bosh they were the ones having great success @ the half court offense. i don't think bowen scored?
defensively that number 7 guy of China was breaking the D like crazy... they had good post denial (chinese #11 is really talented... moves really well... got to build up his body)
good game for the USA but they can improve a LOT more (which is scary)
I beleive this game will be aired on ESPN2 tonight at 9:30
That is what I thought too.
Hey who wants to bet I can predict the score?
I think that's a scrimmage. Isaw that score thing on NBATV too.
Damnit, Bruce is probably gonna get f*cking cut. That's just my opinion, and I hope I'm wrong. Greetings from LA, everyone!
Yeah, he probably will.
BRUCE IN THE BACKGROUND PLAYING "D"
Why do you think that? I've read several articles talking about how he is a major key to the team.
Wait and actually see the game to know how Bruce played. Even if he had the same impact as the Puerto Rico game, I still think he has a guaranteed roster spot. The college guy was supposedly high on him because of his leadership ability and his defensive ability on star players. The following two players will most likely be the ones cut.
Jameson has played well though. I want to see a Bruce-Manu matchup dammit. Coach Shechevski don't this up for me.
i don't think brad miller gets cut... from what i saw in this game he had a crazy run when the chinese were playing man to man. he hit three straight treys... effectively pulling the big man out of the paint
I've read it in the Spanish Basket Forum. No boxscore.
Gus
If he plays well on Defense he's guaranteed a spot.
On NBA.com it says that was the real game and that's the game ESPN2 will be showing later tonight.
All the big men on the USA roster can hit threes. It's the college line. Even Brand said he can hit that shot all day. If Miller stays, then who goes? LeBron?
It's gonna be Bowen, Battier, Jamison, Miller, or Hinrich. I think it'll be Miller and Jamison.
If he is able to keep his spot, of course it will be for his defense and veteran leadership. The problem with that is I don't think he's ever going to see enough minutes for his defense to really shine.
While he's not a bad offense player, he tends to be too unselfish. He loves the team concept and is more likely to pass the ball to create a better shot, than take the shot himslef. That is a trait that you have to love about him ... but it also hurts his chances in this instance.
Whereas a guy like Battier or even Joe Johnson who will also see somewhat limited minutes are more versatile, and are able to do more things when on the floor that allow their game to stand out.
Also, with this teams ability to score 120 on anyone, I don't know if they're ever going to really need defensive stoppers.
I beleive it will be Bowen that gets cut along with Hinrich or Jamison.
C Paul will get most of the run at PG, followed by Gilbert. I'd prefer to see Hinrich in there, but Arenas can score buckets quickly.
I'd also like to see Jamison stay on the team because of his versatility, but someone has to be cut.
And I would be absolutely shocked if Miller gets cut. His game is ideal for international play.
"i don't think bowen scored?"
He's never supposed to score. He's supposed to play defense and rebound.
But it looks like the US Team's success will be based on overwhelming offense (ie, Bowen is a misfit) rather than (team) defense. When the USA get 15 - 20 pts ahead, Coach K isn't going to be insisting on shut-down defense.
As much as I admire Bruce and appreicate the honor of his selection, I don't think his "moral" qualities or his defense will be missed from the basketball performance if he's cut. If he's retained, it will be tokenism and to show appreciation for Bruce, not for his limited basketball ability to help the team.
Go Bruce Go
On NBATV it said that Lebron was the leading scorer with 23 and China was led by Du Feng with 18.
If he is able to keep his spot, of course it will be for his defense and veteran leadership. The problem with that is I don't think he's ever going to see enough minutes for his defense to really shine.
While he's not a bad offense player, he tends to be too unselfish. He loves the team concept and is more likely to pass the ball to create a better shot, than take the shot himslef. That is a trait that you have to love about him ... but it also hurts his chances in this instance.
Whereas a guy like Battier or even Joe Johnson who will also see somewhat limited minutes are more versatile, and are able to do more things when on the floor that allow their game to stand out.
Also, with this teams ability to score 120 on anyone, I don't know if they're ever going to really need defensive stoppers.
What happens when Jamison, Melo or other offensive minded players are having an off-night. It bound to happen. They will be basically useless on the court because their defense is pathetic. That type of scenario is when players like Bowen, Heinrich and Battier are so valueable.
I'd rathertake Bowen's apparent lack of versility with his defense than an offensive player whose sole contribution to the game is scoring. I'll take defense every time.
atleast thats not Tony he's hugging
When I posted it wasn't even in the NBA page.
Gus
"What happens when Jamison, Melo or other offensive minded players are having an off-night."
They all won't have an off-game on the same day.
If Bruce was rebounding and stealing and disrupting the offense the way Manu's defense can do, rather than being strictly a one-on-one perimeter defender, he'd be a lot more justifiable and helpful.
Which international team has a single overwhelming perimeter scorer to whom Bruce can apply his defense, in a way that actually changes the game in USA favor?
You might want to watch some old olympic tapes or even the game against Puerto Rico not too long ago. Open Three Galore. The first quarter, USA was trying to press. Why the were they doing that? Can't play D? Yes. It wasn't until the second unit came into the game (Heinrich, Battier, Bowen (not impressive) that USA actually took over the game to win.
Italy in the Olympics was raining threes like there was no tomorrow. You have to get in their faces and play tight D. You have to frustrate them and that's exactly what Bowen can do. Even if he fouls, he is doing his job with limited minutes he has. Bruce doesn't need to steal the ball and rebound too much. All of the USA players do that very well.
About the single oer-whelming player. Just think about nba perimeter stars playing for their country and you have your answer. Manu, Hedo, TP, Surunas or other great European who are play well. All of the teams we lost to had great individual talent that dominated us. That's why Bowen is on the roster. To make sure that doesn't happen
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