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    The Great Eight Ocotillo's Avatar
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    Probably you have read about or seen the Allen video where he refers to an Indian-American (born and raised in Virginia) as Macaca.......

    When I first saw it, I thought it was a slur like calling an Arab Haji or Abdul but it turns out that it is an epitet used by French when referring to North Africans or Moroccans. Allen's mother was raised in Tunisia and is French ( delicious piece of irony) and comes from a background where the slur might be used.



    I would guess his presidential hopes in '08 just bit the dust, what do you think?

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    Marilyn Rae Lover jochhejaam's Avatar
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    It's a rather bizarre incident. Allen claims he didn't know what it meant...?


    Allen Quip Provokes Outrage, Apology
    Name Insults Webb Volunteer

    By Tim Craig and Michael D. Shear
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Tuesday, August 15, 2006; Page A01


    RICHMOND, Aug. 14 -- Virginia Sen. George Allen (R) apologized Monday for what his opponent's campaign said were demeaning and insensitive comments the senator made to a 20-year-old volunteer of Indian descent.

    At a campaign rally in southwest Virginia on Friday, Allen repeatedly called a volunteer for Democrat James Webb "macaca." During the speech in Breaks, near the Kentucky border, Allen began by saying that he was "going to run this campaign on positive, constructive ideas" and then pointed at S.R. Sidarth in the crowd.

    "This fellow here, over here with the yellow shirt, macaca, or whatever his name is. He's with my opponent. He's following us around everywhere. And it's just great," Allen said, as his supporters began to laugh. After saying that Webb was raising money in California with a "bunch of Hollywood movie moguls," Allen said, "Let's give a welcome to macaca, here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia." Allen then began talking about the "war on terror."

    Depending on how it is spelled, the word macaca could mean either a monkey that inhabits the Eastern Hemisphere or a town in South Africa. In some European cultures, macaca is also considered a racial slur against African immigrants, according to several Web sites that track ethnic slurs.

    "The kid has a name," Webb communications director Kristian Denny Todd said of Sidarth, a Virginia native who was born in Fairfax County. "This is trying to demean him, to minimize him as a person."

    Todd added that the use of macaca, whatever it means, and the reference welcoming Sidarth to America were clearly intended to make him uncomfortable.

    Reached Monday evening, Allen said that the word had no derogatory meaning for him and that he was sorry. "I would never want to demean him as an individual. I do apologize if he's offended by that. That was no way the point."

    Asked what macaca means, Allen said: "I don't know what it means." <if he didn't know why did he use it? Either way it's a sign of ignorance> He said the word sounds similar to "mohawk," a term that his campaign staff had nicknamed Sidarth because of his haircut. Sidarth said his hairstyle is a mullet -- tight on top, long in the back.

    Allen said that by the comment welcoming him to America, he meant: "Just to the real world. Get outside the Beltway and get to the real world."

    But the apology, which came hours after Allen's campaign manager dismissed the issue with an expletive and insisted the senator has "nothing to apologize for," did little to mollify Webb's campaign or Sidarth, who said he suspects Allen singled him out because his was the only nonwhite face among about 100 Republican supporters.

    "I think he was doing it because he could, and I was the only person of color there, and it was useful for him in inciting his audience," said Sidarth, who videotaped the event for the Webb campaign. "I was annoyed he would use my race in a political context."

    Told of Allen's apology, Todd added, "I hope Allen realizes that Virginians come in all colors."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081400589.html

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    This incident will hurt Allen in metropolitan areas because suburban voters might think he's racist, and it will hurt him in rural areas when voters there find out he speaks French.

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    I''ll have the roast duck with the mango salsa,...

    and you sir,.

    I've lost my appe e.

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    Leonard Doody is my BITCH! Mr Dio's Avatar
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    I''ll have the roast duck with the mango salsa flavored man juice,...

    and you sir,...May I blow you too?

    I've lost my appe e. Too many females make me sick. I need a man NOW!!!

    You need help GayTown.
    Sorry if I hit a nerve son.
    Last edited by Mr Dio; 08-16-2006 at 11:15 PM.

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    Uno, Dos, Tres, Catorce... Ya Vez's Avatar
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    who cares.. politicians are people too .. not gods....

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    Who you calling a politician? I'm an easy rider!

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    ...and yet this goes with nary a whisper:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc9mvwNYn2M

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    I''ll have the roast duck with the mango salsa,...

    and you sir,.

    I've lost my appe e.


    Neanderthals rule.

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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    You need help GayTown.
    Sorry if I hit a nerve son.
    You need to grow a sense of humor. Gtown wasnt saying anything political, he said the obvious. This dumb just ruined his campaign.

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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    who cares.. politicians are people too .. not gods....
    People who are trying to garner your vote. They may not be infallible, but they damn well better act like it in public.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    You need to grow a sense of humor. Gtown wasnt saying anything political, he said the obvious. This dumb just ruined his campaign.
    And not a moment too soon. If that SoCal fratboy Sons-of-the-Confederacy-wannabe erstwhile jock were to have gotten the Republican nomination for President in 2008, I might have declared jihad.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    How about this for an excuse?

    "I had just finished watching The Lion King with several underprivileged orphans, and was just repeating what that warthog thing says, you know, "Hock-a macaca" or whatever that means "no worries." And since Mr. Sidarth isn't worried about the scruples of following me around with a video camera, I thought the name fit."

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    The Great Eight Ocotillo's Avatar
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    ...and yet this goes with nary a whisper:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc9mvwNYn2M
    Hasta la vista '08 Presidential hopes Joe.......

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    That is the last time I put out the change jar for the Biden PAC!!

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    Well, they don't have to be perfect, since that would produce a blatant fake like a Frist or a Kerry etc, who can't speak straight and authentically for wanting to avoid offending anyone, but they can avoid making obviously nasty appeals to the (red-state) Repug racist vote.

    Allen sounds like the typical nasty little racist mother er the Repugs run as candidates in the south, as part of the successful Repug campaign of being the natural party for southern anti-black voters. You know, good ol' boys like Trent Lott.
    Last edited by boutons_; 08-17-2006 at 08:33 PM.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Hasta la vista '08 Presidential hopes Joe.......
    Anyone who has paid any attention to Joe Biden knows that this kind of oral diarrhea is routine. He lacks that "mental filter," which is OK for being a senator from folksy Delaware, but won't cut it on the national scene.

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    And?

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Anyone who has paid any attention to Joe Biden knows that this kind of oral diarrhea is routine. He lacks that "mental filter," which is OK for being a senator from folksy Delaware, but won't cut it on the national scene.
    If Biden was even considered as a possibility for '08, then voters have a "mental filter" that blocks his history from their memory, which means he still has a chance.

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    I can assure you I will vote for neither in '08.

    Happy?

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    hasta la victoria, siempre cheguevara's Avatar
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    Allen also said he did not know the white hood in his trunk was KKK.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Allen also said he did not know the white hood in his trunk was KKK.
    That post is all the funnier considering it's posted by someone using the name cheguevara.

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    Both Biden and Allen have made no secret of their interest in running for their party's nomination in '08. Biden was a long shot at best. Allen was considered the second strongest candidate after McCain. I know some like Guliani but he isn't going to get the nomination either.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.

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    Another Republican candidate opens mouth, inserts foot...

    "I grew up In Alabama, and I understand, and I know this from my experience, but blacks are not the greatest swimmers or may not even know to swim."
    - Republican front runner Tramm Hudson (R) Florida's 13th congressional district race, for the seat being vacated by Rep. Katherine Harris (R-FL)

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