This past season Parker improved his scoring by a decent amount. He was able to take more of the offensive load and become more efficient. All in all I would say he has become an elite scoring PG in this league. Only Arenas, Iverson are clearly superior scorers -- and probably only Nash and Billups are about on the same level in terms of pure scoring. So in essense Parker is a Top 5 PG as a scorer (most likely the third best last season).
Where he comes up weak is in the playmaking department. He is turnover prone and he doesn't generate a huge amount of assists. Basically he is not a pure PG nor particularly a good playmaker for others when compared with his PG peers.
While it is true that he plays with Duncan and Ginobili (who see a good chunk of the ball), that still doesn't mean that he can't be a little less turnover prone.
But lets just say hypothetically that if TP could improve either his playmaking Assist to Turnover Ratio or his scoring which would you want to see improve? Let me also add that an improved three point and possibly FT shot is included in this scoring package.
Lets say the Spurs remain a 95-98ppg scoring team and remain slow paced.
Would you rather see TP's statline look like this.....
1) 21.7ppg 5.8apg 3.1to 1.0spg 3.3rpg(improved three point shot by a decent amount but not a high percentage shooter, just a volume three point shooter who hits at a decent % -- slightly lower scoring efficiency than #2 scenario)
49% shooter (but better at the 3pt line by a decent, not HUGE amount)
or
2) 19.3ppg 7.1apg 2.2to 1.5spg 3.9rpg (a solid increase in scoring efficiency over scenario #1)
52-55% shooter but still a poor three point shooter, but maybe improves it slightly -- higher percentage but a low volume shooter -- maybe picks up more steals and rebounds
TP the versatile playmaker? Or TP the improved scorer with an improved shot?
Last edited by Nikos; 09-05-2006 at 09:06 PM.
Tony said Pop told him last year to score, so he did.
I doubt that will change much this year, meaning Tony's development as playmaker/distributor will not be a Spurs' priority.
Tony probably didn't get much time with the WC and finger injury to improve his shot.
I would would much rather see Tony get everybody more involved in a balanced offense rather than Tony carrying so much of the scoring burden. He showed he can do that, so I'd like to see him be a better offensive quarterback.
More assists and less points.
If Duncan/Manu can stay healthy, then Tony will evolve into a better playmaker. If he has to carry the bulk of the scoring load like last season, then he'll continue to become a better scorer.
Well, you certainly gilded the lily in your scenarios.
I like my point guards to be passers first, scorers second. I'd prefer him to be the 3rd option and to get his turnovers down and to get Tim and Manu going early.
More points and assts
I prefer him to add some dimension to his game. His scoring ability is fine and consistent. He needs to work on his point guard skills. If he improves his assist/ TO ratio then it'll benefit his game and the team immensely.
Is this a trick question? Assists necessitate that points have been scored. Moving the ball through the offense is good. I'd rather see Duncan score the most.
I like Parker how he is esp last season when he got all thoese points!!! He did all he could sure he made mistakes everyone made em! I just think Duncan needs to stop actin scared! and just dunk tha damn ball sometimes and stop doing them sorry ass layups and hook shots!!! Parker is fine Ginobli is fine Horry is ok he could be better but his age is slowing him down but Duncan I love him but he needs to be way more AGGRESSIVE!!!!
I could've swore I replied in this thread
He wanted his original thread deleted and then he wrote it again.
Ah, okay. I didn't think I said anything stupid so I didn't know why someone would delete my post. Thanks for clearing that up.
But to answer the question, I think Tony's assits will go up this year because Nazr and Rasho had trouble converting around the rim and Elson and Butler won't have those problems.
Now we have to delete the thread again! Can't you take a hint!
Now we have to delete the thread again! Can't you take a hint!
i would like for Tony to be the playmaker this year.
Im just hoping theese new guys can ATLEAST get rebounds! that all I ask!! We are a pritty decent team shooting we just need somebody to grab the damn boards!!! and be AGGRESSIVE!! I am big on AGGRESSIVENESS!!!!!! oh and TRY TO MAKE SOME DAMN FREETHROWS!!! It seems like that is what messes us up in the final minutes!!! 1. Rebounds and 2. Free throws!!!!
I would like tony to be the same
manu and duncan need to be kepted fresh for the playoffs
it was a blessing last year that duncan was hurt most of the year so duncan was fresher for the playoffs
duncan needs to forcus more on rebounds this season then scoring
burn some of that energy up that way
"But to answer the question, I think Tony's assits will go up this year because Nazr and Rasho had trouble converting around the rim and Elson and Butler won't have those problems."
Thank you, essaySpur. It will certainly help TP if the new centres can catch the ball, which Nazr and Rasho found very difficult.
Question for the statisticians - if TP drives, makes a slip pass to a big man under the basket and the big man drops it, is that Tony's TO? The number of times of seen that over the last couple of seasons is disconcerting, but you can't blame Tony!
Sorry, don't mean to be an arsehole, but it's "AGGRESSION", not aggressiveness, regardless fo what Americans will tell you, and all those "!!!!" make you look like a bit of a tool.
Also, isn't this a thread about TP?
Just a bit of constructive criticism to ruin your day...
No, that should be a turnover on Nazr.
(No matter who the big man actually was.)
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OK dude, we get the point.
I would like his points to stay up, but if getting two or three more assists a game means dropping a few points per game, then so be it.
Tony is progressing nicely. I would like to see him hit a somewhat consistent 3 ball and do much better at the line. The assist numbers skewed by the Spurs system and players. Look at the Spurs other two big scorers. Duncan often puts the ball on the floor as he sets up his shot, especialy last year when he didn't have the elevation to get his bank shot off. Ginobili likes to drive the lane looking to get to the line or the hole. These styles of play are not conducive to racking up big assist numbers. Also our spot up shooters like Bones and Finley are often set up by the big men. At this point in Tony's career assist totals are just not a priority. BTW Steve Blake had the best Assist to Turnover Ratio in the Western Conference last year. That should show you just how important that particular stat is.
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