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That's a shame. Perry will win because all of the others will dillute the vote. What is the worst % of vote to win an election? Why do I have a feeling this will be the year we see this?
New poll out, and the News ain't good for Texas roads...
As inept as Perry maybe as TX Governor, not one of the other 3 candidates is making a move, this despite Grandma spending heavy money recently.... ummm..looks like we are gonna get stuck with Perry and the Texas Trans Corridor will become a reality.
Yet another TX Governor's poll
by: John McClelland
Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 11:13:25 AM CDT
From the land of obscure polling, we have yet another poll released for the TX Governor's race.
Burnt Orange ReportTexans for Insurance Reform released their poll as follows:
Perry 33%
Strayhorn 20%
Bell 14%
Friedman 14%
Undecided 19%
I would venture to guess they did not poll anyone who actually wants insurance reform, since the top choice is Rick Perry.
That's a shame. Perry will win because all of the others will dillute the vote. What is the worst % of vote to win an election? Why do I have a feeling this will be the year we see this?
I'm also surprised Perry has such a comfortable lead considering all the ing and complaining I hear on all over the radio and this debate tonight is a complete joke.
Friedman is a Texas version of Ralph Nader. A non-serious candidate who will siphon off votes that would either go against Perry or not vote at all.
For Perry to be only at 33% is terrible though as the Republican in bent in a state where they would vote for a chimp if it had an (R) after it's name (come to think of it they sort of did that in the '90s).
In a two way race with Perry either Bell or Strayhorn might have a chance but in this four way circus, slick Rick will prevail with a base about the same size percentage-wise as Bush's favorable rating these days.
Kinky is what he is: Kinky. He was a joke to begin with.
I for one can't wait for the corridor. That's just me though. I also whole heartedly support the construction of toll roads in San Antonio.
You must be in the construction industry.
I am totally against the toll roads and I'm not in construction. If those bright engineers would use more common sense we wouldn't need toll roads.
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Last edited by johnsmith; 10-06-2006 at 03:10 PM.
Common sense doesn't produce the amount of money needed to fix the highway situation in San Antonio.
And it's actually, if those bright engineers 25 YEARS AGO would have used more common sense. It's not our fault the situation is the way it is.
Common sense tells me that if a private (overseas) company
can raise enough money to build them, then the State of Texas
could do the same and reap enough money to satisfy the
bonds and allow the citizens of this state to drive the toll
roads at a lower rate than the private companies who want
to make a profit. And Johnsmith, you would still have a job
building the roads, no matter who fronts the money.
Yes, this is true, but your common sense is blocked by a lack of information.
The overseas company doesn't have enough money to build the roads, an American company had to put up a VERY signifigant amount of money as well.
The problem with your logic though is that the state of Texas and TxDot simply don't have the amount of money needed to build the roads on their own. They're money is tied up elsewhere and even if it wasn't then they still probably wouldn't have the amount of money needed.
Furthermore, if the State of Texas were to raise the amount of money needed as you have suggested, your gas prices would go up because it would be further taxed, not to mention all the other roads throughout the state would be further run down because TxDot would be too busy "raising" money in order to fund the project being proposed.
As for the lower rate, check what the tolls being proposed are compared to toll roads throughout the United States, they are roughly the same as everywhere else.
Finally, don't anyone dare bring up the environmental impact involved in building toll roads in San Antonio. That is the dumbest ing argument ever proposed and was just a front and a found within the many other s TxDot has to offer when construction was going to start on 281 and 1604.
Oh, and let me say this as well. I work in the Construction Industry but I'm not affiliated with the contractor hired to build these roads, nor with TxDot. I'd be too embarrassed to work for TxDot.
I'm all for toll roads in SA, I'm impartial when it comes to Trans Tx Corridor however, I can see both sides of that argument and could go either way.
Your right, they don't have the money in hand. But Texas has the
ability to issue bonds to raise the money. And it doesn't have to
be raised all at once. Because all the roads couldn't be built all at
once.
I am absolutely against toll roads within any city. People must
use roads to get to and from work, shop and general movement
for their day to day activities.
I have been around San Antonio from around 1960, and since
around 1970 on the Northside, loop 410, TXDOT has had that
thing torn up for the whole period for something or the other.
I often wonder if they would just complete a project and leave
things alone for at least a year or so how much traffic would
improve.
Anyhow leave the in-city roads free and provide toll roads
between cities, if that is what it takes to build more roads, but
keep them in the public sector, not take them private.
It's inconceivable that we allow our leaders to be elected on a simple plurality.
To be totally honest with you, I've wondered that too. However, the rate at which the northside, particularly the area around 1604, has grown, there isn't the time needed to raise that kind of money, that area needs to be fixed now and this is the way it will be done. I think you have a very valid argument and a very valid opinion though.
Having said that, toll roads in SA are on the way, that is a fact. There is nothing that anyone can do about it at this point.
Toll roads suck ass!!
Your choice: pay the taxes at the gasoline pump or pay them at the toll booth. Either way, you pay.
This latest poll polled 823 people in a conservative neighborhood, theres no ing way 20% of voters will vote for that ing strayhorn
Traffic sucks worse!Toll roads suck ass!!
Yep looks like Texas is screwed again, I'll bet the turnout is very low.
Well ES, one thing about it. At my age, I more than likely wont have to
pay them for very long. But I have travelled in the East many times and
let me tell you something. Continually paying for use of a highway is
really a pain. Talk about slow downs, how bout a toll booth every few
miles and believe me they do exist in New York and New Jersey. I see
no reason that gasoline taxes would have to be raised very much. That
the reason for the tolls, to pay for the highways. I cant remember how long
it took to pay for the Dallas/Ft. Worth tollway, about 25 years I believe, but
it is now totally free to drive on. But it was financed by the business
community of the two cities, I believe and that was the agreement they
and the State came to and abide by. That kind of agreement I could
live with........but believe me, once Wolfe, Hardberger and the other
liberals see how much they can raise by charging tolls and have that
money to spend on their little projects, well you know the rest of the
story. Welcome to the world of Yankee/liberal politics.
The city won't make any money off the tolls. The city of San Antonio has very little power when it comes to this subject.
And quit saying stuff like, "at my age I won't have to pay them very long". I hate when older people say stuff like that, my Grandparents always use to say things like that and it's very depressing for your loved ones to have to picture life without you. I use to yell at them about it too.
Honestly, political views aside, opinions on tolling roads aside, quit saying stuff like that.
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