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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    first offer was less than prince contract 20mill less hahaha

    i laugh if howard walks, and comes sign with the spurs for MLE for 3 years, then we offer him something........

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    He won't sign for the MLE.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Yes he will.

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    man. Howard is worth more than that. You better not this up Cuban.

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    Believe. Ignorant Spurs fan's Avatar
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    come to the Spurs baby!

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    He ain't going nowhere.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Next year:
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    PG Tony(Beno and JV FA)

    Resign Oberto. Get rid of Elson for a 1st rounder. Sign Howard, Boykins, and either Scola, Anderson Varejao, Javtokas, and Mahinmi, and we got ourselves a deal! I know I live in fantasy world.

    C Oberto/Butler/Mahinmi or Javtokas
    PF Duncan/Varejao or Scola
    SF Howard/Bowen
    SG Manu/Fin/Brent
    PG Tony/Boykins
    GOD DAMN! Spurs heaven. If only it became true...

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    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...vslede.2dc8d02

    Howard upset by value Mavs attach to him
    Fourth-year G/F wants team to make fair offer so he can just go play
    10:11 PM CDT on Friday, October 13, 2006
    By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News

    MILWAUKEE – Through two preseason games, Josh Howard has heaved 22 shots in 40 minutes. Only one player's arm has had a bigger workout, rookie Moe Ager, who has 25 shots but has played 59 minutes.

    The coaches can forgive Ager for his exuberance. He's young, and it's the staff's job to rein him in, which they will.

    But Howard's situation is different. The knee-jerk reaction is to think that Howard is already taking a me-first at ude because he's playing for next season's contract. Never too early to start building a case for megabucks, right?

    Wrong. Howard said Friday that he has to tell himself every day to chill out about his contract situation and that "depressed" is not the word he'd use to describe his mood.

    "Disappointed would be a better word," he said. "The other one I'd use would be a cuss word."

    Howard is in the final year of his rookie contract. He is one of the lowest-paid Mavericks at slightly less than $1.6 million this season. Yet he is either the team's second- or third-most important player, along with Jason Terry, behind Dirk Nowitzki.

    Howard and his agent already have talked to the Mavericks about a contract in the same neighborhood as Detroit's Tayshaun Prince, who signed last October for five years, $47.5 million.

    The two players are similar, although it can be argued that Howard is more valuable to the Mavericks.

    "The first number that came out [from the Mavs] wasn't anywhere near what Tayshaun makes," Howard said. "It was for five years, but it was $20 million less."

    President of basketball operations Donnie Nelson said the Mavericks have not given up on extending Howard before the Oct. 31 deadline. After that, the team must wait until next summer and run the restricted free-agent gantlet.

    "It's a negotiation," Nelson said. "Sometimes they move quickly and sometimes they move slowly. Everyone's worst-case scenario is not such a terrible thing – to wait until next summer. Nobody should sign a deal they're not comfortable with."

    Howard will be a restricted free agent after this season, which means he can do one of four things:

    • sign an extension with the Mavericks;

    • sign an offer sheet with another team, which the Mavericks can match and retain Howard;

    • end up with the team that offers him the contract if the Mavericks don't match it;

    • or, play one more season with the Mavericks, then become an unrestricted free agent and go wherever he wants.

    Considering that a team like Charlotte, which has boatloads of money next summer, could be waiting to pounce on a player like Howard, it's a dangerous game the Mavericks are playing.

    At the very least, the price tag could go up markedly.

    "I'm not even trying to break the bank," Howard said. "I've never been a guy who lets stuff get to me. I understand I'm a restricted free agent and they can wait until next year to sign me. But I was the other guy in that '03 class who made it to the Finals [joining Miami's Dwyane Wade]."

    Howard understands that management wants a hungry player who is going to have a big season. However, he disagrees with the theory that the team's success this year should be the basis of his future.

    "I want to get back to that spot where we were last year," he said. "We all do. But to be honest, I don't think that should have anything to do with me making money."

    As for Howard's frame of mind, he said the team and fans shouldn't worry.

    "I don't have to prove nothing," he said. "I'm still playing whether I'm getting $40 million or I'm getting my $1.6 million like this year. I'm going to have a ball out there because that's what I do."

    Injury update: The Mavericks left Greg Buckner (sprained left knee), Jerry Stackhouse (knee), Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Terry in Dallas and also will play the Milwaukee Bucks tonight without Devin Harris (left hamstring).

    Harris, who is from Milwaukee, took the trip home to visit family and friends and work out with the team.

    "Just some free per diem for him," coach Avery Johnson joked.

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    Next year:
    C Elson/Butler(Oberto FA)
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    SF Bowen(Williams FA)
    SG Manu/Fin/Brent
    PG Tony(Beno and JV FA)

    Resign Oberto. Get rid of Elson for a 1st rounder. Sign Howard, Boykins, and either Scola, Anderson Varejao, Javtokas, and Mahinmi, and we got ourselves a deal! I know I live in fantasy world.

    C Oberto/Butler/Mahinmi or Javtokas
    PF Duncan/Varejao or Scola
    SF Howard/Bowen
    SG Manu/Fin/Brent
    PG Tony/Boykins
    GOD DAMN! Spurs heaven. If only it became true...
    pass the n joint around bro!!!

    i love this , now all we need is cp3 and change the SAS = WF spurs

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Go for the Spurs offer!!!

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    pass the n joint around bro!!!

    i love this , now all we need is cp3 and change the SAS = WF spurs
    I know it's stupid. I just wanted to post my dream.

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    "The first number that came out [from the Mavs] wasn't anywhere near what Tayshaun makes," Howard said. "It was for five years, but it was $20 million less."
    So they first offer him $27.5M/5 years ?
    I can understand that Howard is upset, doing an offer like that is a lack of respect for him and for what he has done for Dallas.

    Howard to Spurs is a pipe dream, the only way we cna get him is :
    Howard doesn't sign an extension this summer. Howard play for the qualifyin offer in 07-08 (same scenario than Radmanovic). Spurs will be under the cap during the 08 summer, so they can offer him a big contract during this summer.

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    look if the current offer was MLE, then why not accept the spurs MLE offer for 3 years, than resign him to the new CBA whatever it is, better to sign with the mavs enemy and shove it down cubans throat .

    now i wonder what diaw/hinrich are thinkin right now....

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    Bruce Almighty Bruno's Avatar
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    C Oberto/Butler/Mahinmi or Javtokas
    PF Duncan/Varejao or Scola
    SF Howard/Bowen
    SG Manu/Fin/Brent
    PG Tony/Boykins
    GOD DAMN! Spurs heaven. If only it became true...
    It works too with Diaw at SF and it's less unlikely.

    BTW, Mahinmi is more a PF not a C and Spurs' staff see him as a PF too.

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    look if the current offer was MLE, then why not accept the spurs MLE offer for 3 years, than resign him to the new CBA whatever it is, better to sign with the mavs enemy and shove it down cubans throat .

    now i wonder what diaw/hinrich are thinkin right now....
    He will be restricted in 07, mavs will match a MLE offer.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    It works too with Diaw at SF and it's less unlikely.

    BTW, Mahinmi is more a PF not a C and Spurs' staff see him as a PF too.
    There's not a big selection for the center position next summer so we're probably gonna have to adjust. The only centers that are available that are sorta good are Chris Mihm, Jamaal Magloire, and Raef LaFrentz.

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    There's not a big selection for the center position next summer so we're probably gonna have to adjust. The only centers that are available that are sorta good are Chris Mihm, Jamaal Magloire, and Raef LaFrentz.
    Duncan, Elson, Butler, Javtokas are closer to a C than Mahinmi.

    And spurs won't retool during the 07 summer but during the 08 summer.

    BTW a quote from Pop about Mahinmi :
    " We think that he will be more a PF than a C because he is athletic, run the floor very well and is mobile. I don't know if he will be able to play C in nba."

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    20 million less then prince is alot

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    When did Cake Boy Cuban get so ing cheap? I can understand Fin and Nash, because they had passed their peak, but Howard is on the upswing, a talented young player.

    Both Josh Howard and Boris Diaw are not liking the extensions they are being offered, and one or both could be UFAs in 2008 if they accept the QO next summer.

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    trading Elson for a first rounder


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    20 million less then prince is alot

    No

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    josh howard is a piece of horse . em. i hope he gets screwed.

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    look if the current offer was MLE, then why not accept the spurs MLE offer for 3 years, than resign him to the new CBA whatever it is, better to sign with the mavs enemy and shove it down cubans throat
    problem is, YOU are the enemies. besides if he signs and MLA offer, do you think Cubes will let him go to the spurs for that ? HAAAAAA, you'd have to offer him close to a max deal (not happening) for cuban to let him go to our direct enemies.

    Don't dream, you stand 0 chance at him even if he is a restricted FA next year.

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    josh howard is a piece of horse . em. i hope he gets screwed.
    WGAS what you think RIGHT!!! Now off please

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    josh howard is a piece of horse . em. i hope he gets screwed.
    Care to explain?

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