Here's an interesting take on the bin Laden tape...

[Yonivore]

Osama Bin Laden's Surrender Proposal

Osama Bin Laden released a video whose transcript is given below.

You American people, my speech to you is the best way to avoid another conflict about the war and its reasons and results. I am telling you security is an important pillar of human life. And free people don't let go of their security contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom. He should tell us why we didn't hit Sweden for instance. Its known that those who hate freedom don't have dignified souls.like the 19 who were blessed. But we fought you because we are free people, we don't sleep on our oppression. We want to regain the freedom of our Muslim nation as you spill our security, we spill your security.

I am so surprised by you. Although we are in the fourth year after the events of Sept 11, Bush is still practicing distortion and misleading on you, and obscuring the main reasons and therefore the reasons are still existing to repeat what happened before. I will tell you the reasons behind theses incidents.

I will be honest with you on the moment when the decision was taken to understand. We never thought of hitting the towers. But after we were so fed up, and we saw the oppression of the American Israeli coalition on our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind and the incidents that really touched me directly goes back to 1982 and the following incidents. When the US permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the assistance of the 6th fleet. In these hard moments, it occurred to me so many meanings I cant explain but it resulted in a general feeling of rejecting oppression and gave me a hard determination to punish the oppressors. While I was looking at the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it came to my mind to punish the oppressor the same way and destroy towers in the US to get a taste of what they tasted, and quit killing our children and women.

We didn't find difficulty dealing with Bush and his administration due to the similarity of his regime and the regimes in our countries. Whish half of them are ruled by military and the other half by sons of kings and presidents and our experience with them is long. Both parties are arrogant and stubborn and the greediness and taking money without right and that similarity appeared during the visits of Bush to the region while people from our side were impressed by the US and hoped that these visits would influence our countries. Here he is being influenced by these regimes, Royal and military. And was feeling jealous they were staying for decades in power stealing the nations finances without anybody overseeing them. So he transferred the oppression of freedom and tyranny to his son and they call it the Patriot Law to fight terrorism. He was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and he didn't forget to transfer his experience from the rulers of our region to Florida to falsify elections to benefit from it in critical times.

We agreed with Mohamed Atta, god bless him, to execute the whole operation in 20 minutes. Before Bush and his administration would pay attention and we never thought that the high commander of the US armies would leave 50 thousand of his citizens in both towers to face the horrors by themselves when they most needed him because it seemed to distract his attention from listening to the girl telling him about her goat butting was more important than paying attention to airplanes butting the towers which gave us three times the time to execute the operation thank god.

Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your hands. Each state that doesn't mess with our security has automatically secured their security.

It is important to notice what he has stopped saying in this speech. He has stopped talking about the restoration of the Global Caliphate. There is no more mention of the return of Andalusia. There is no more anticipation that Islam will sweep the world. He is no longer boasting that Americans run at the slightest wounds; that they are more cowardly than the Russians. He is not talking about future operations to swathe the world in fire but dwelling on past glories. He is basically saying if you leave us alone we will leave you alone. Though it is couched in his customary orbicular phraseology he is basically asking for time out.

The American answer to Osama's proposal will be given on Election Day. One response is to agree that the United States of America will henceforth act like Sweden, which is on track to become majority Islamic sometime after the middle of this century. The electorate best knows which candidate will serve this end; which candidate most promises to be European-like in at ude and they can choose that path with both eyes open. The electorate can strike that bargain and Osama may keep his word. The other course is to reject Osama's terms utterly; to recognize the pleading in his outwardly belligerent manner and reply that his fugitive existence; the loss of his sanctuaries; the annihilation of his men are but the merest foretaste of what is yet to come: to say that to enemies such as he, the initials 'US' will always mean Unconditional Surrender.

Osama has stated his terms. He awaits America's answer.

As I said, interesting take...

[Opinionater]

IMHO, that is interesting but nothing more.

[mouse]

Funny when the Republicans post something it's called Interesting.
Let Nbadan post something and it's called bull .

[JohnnyMarzetti]

They just post interesting bull .

[Yonivore]

Funny when the Republicans post something it's called Interesting.
Let Nbadan post something and it's called bull .

Interesting point, mouse.

[mouse]

You want this to be your baby? Vote for Bush

[Yonivore]

Maybe the point is more than just "interesting,"...

FULL TAPE AN OSAMA A WOE SHOW

October 31, 2004 -- Osama bin Laden doesn't seem nearly so y in the unedited version of a videotape aired on al-Jazeera, complaining that the manhunt against him has hampered al Qaeda.

Osama bin Laden's newest tape may have thrust him to the forefront of the presidential election, but what was not seen was the cave-dwelling terror lord talking about the setbacks al Qaeda has faced in recent months.
Officials said that in the 18-minute long tape — of which only six minutes were aired on the al-Jazeera Arab television network in the Middle East on Friday — bin Laden bemoans the recent democratic elections in Afghanistan and the lack of violence involved with it.

On the tape, bin Laden also says his terror organization has been hurt by the U.S. military's unrelenting manhunt for him and his cohorts on the Afghan-Pakistani border.

It appears al Jazeera only aired what it wanted you to see...

So, who do you trust to keep him on the defense?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

But everyone knows there's no media bias Yoni!

[mouse]

Does Bush suck...Yes !

Will he win?...yes it looks that way so far.

Will this country go further down the drain?......ummmmm.... Yes !

The question will be are you happy after Tuesday? I say NO! but I am out numbered by the Igmo's... So life goes on...and we have 4 more long years of suffering ahead, Thank you YonnieSnore,Marcus Bryant, and others, for Letting it all happen, I hope your proud of yourselves..............

Ok wake up it's day after tomorrow , and Kerry is President of the United States

[Yonivore]

Does Bush suck...Yes !

Will he win?...yes it looks that way so far.

Will this country go further down the drain?......ummmmm.... Yes !

The question will be are you happy after Tuesday? I say NO! but I am out numbered by the Igmo's... So life goes on...and we have 4 more long years of suffering ahead, Thank you YonnieSnore,Marcus Bryant, and others, for Letting it all happen, I hope your proud of yourselves..............

Ok wake up it's day after tomorrow , and Kerry is President of the United States

mouse, you just graduated to insufferable idiot. Join the ranks of Nbadanallah, you've earned it.

[Hook Dem]

mouse, you just graduated to insufferable idiot. Join the ranks of Nbadanallah, you've earned it.

He's already swinging on Dan's nut sack.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hmm, Osama's on tape saying the manhunt for him and his brethren is hurting AQ, yet that's somehow indicative of bad leadership and a bad battle plan by Bush...

Go figure.

[boutons]

shrub's attack on the Taliban and al Quaeda in Afghanistan was correct. A highlight-reel slam-dunk, with full and willing international support, just like the first Gulf war. Even someone as dumb as shrub could get that one right.

But then when shrub's very limited attention span and tunnel vision got bored with Afghanistan and the really hard $$work of re-building that broken country (we were warned: shrub derided "nation buiding" in his 2000 campaign. shrub only does "nation destruction"), he exploited the "9/11 terror card" to go after a non-threatening, incapacitated, fully contained non-enemy that Poppie and the international community, including our allies the French and other Europeans, had emasculated 10 years ago. Saddam screwed up badly in invading Kuweit, and was swiftly, effectively dealt with.

Iraq is a USA-created disaster, an self-defeating "own goal". Like Viet Nam, it will be a hugely negative chapter of defeat in American history. But unlike VN that could be pinned on both Dems and Repugs, the Iraq disaster is 100% blameable on shrub and his faux macho posse of keystone cops.

Imagine if the resources being wasted in Iraq had been turned against the real targets in the war on terror and in strenthening homeland defenses, or even just in cleaning up and really finishing the job in Afghanistan (even if that took our troups into the Pakistan side of the Afgan border).

btw, the deputy governor of Baghad was assassinated today. Now there's enemy that knows how to send a message right on target. Another sign that the USA is incapably weak of assuring security in Iraq. Iraq proves to the terrorists world-wide that they can effectively strike the USA's "interests", even when defended by a fully deployed US military.

[Marcus Bryant]

Anyone who uses "shrub" 50 times in every post is probably as stupid as he believes the target of his angst to be.