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    Two weeks before the midterm elections, Republicans are losing the battle for independent voters, who now strongly favor Democrats on Iraq and other major issues facing the country and overwhelmingly prefer to see them take over the House in November, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    The new poll underscores how much of a drag the war threatens to be on Republican candidates in compe ive races. With debate underway in Washington about possible course changes in Iraq, Americans cite the war as the most important issue in determining their vote next month more often than any other issue, and those who do favor Democrats over Republicans by 76 percent to 21 percent.

    Independents are poised to play a pivotal role in next month's elections because Democrats and Republicans are basically united behind candidates of their own parties. Ninety-five percent of Democrats said they will support Democratic candidates for the House, while slightly fewer Republicans, 88 percent, said they plan to vote for their party's candidates.

    The independent voters surveyed said they plan to support Democratic candidates over Republicans by roughly 2 to 1 -- 59 percent to 31 percent -- the largest margin in any Post-ABC News poll this year.
    Forty-five percent said it would be good if Democrats recaptured the House majority, while 10 percent said it would not be. The rest said it would not matter
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    Demo's haven't outlined a plan for anything, much less how to get out of the Iraqi cluster , but yet a wide-majority of independent voters like that plan, or no plan, yet, over the new and improved Dubya/Rummy/Baker plan, which kinda resembles Murtha's plan without Okinawa.

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    I don't listen to polls.

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    Demo's haven't outlined a plan for anything, much less how to get out of the Iraqi cluster , but yet a wide-majority of independent voters like that plan, or no plan, yet, over the new and improved Dubya/Rummy/Baker plan, which kinda resembles Murtha's plan without Okinawa.

    I don't this they are against W's "plan" as they lump all repubs. with the idiocy that is W.

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    Demo's haven't outlined a plan for anything, much less how to get out of the Iraqi cluster , but yet a wide-majority of independent voters like that plan, or no plan, yet, over the new and improved Dubya/Rummy/Baker plan, which kinda resembles Murtha's plan without Okinawa.
    That's what is so astounding about the potential transfer of power. The American electorate is willing to hand power to a party with no real stated agenda, choosing nothing over something (whatever that may be).

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    That was one reason why I voted for Kerry.

    Not because I thought he would be an astoundingly great president, but because I thought W should simply be fired.

    Sad thing is that I used to consider myself an independant, as did my wife. W, the slimy politics his supporters wage, and the radical takeover of the GOP has made us straight ticket, yellow-dog Democrats.

    Not that I have any illusions about the Dems being much more astoundingly great than the GOP, but the GOP has done nothing but burn my trust.

    The Dems were thrown out of power when they got arrogant and complacent in the late 80's/early 90's with the so-called "Republican Revolution". Since then the GOP has done the exact same god-damned thing, and they need to be ousted before it is too late for the country.

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    That was one reason why I voted for Kerry.

    Not because I thought he would be an astoundingly great president, but because I thought W should simply be fired.

    Sad thing is that I used to consider myself an independant, as did my wife.
    Yeah, I used to consider myself a moderate but I believe I have moved further to the left because of this administration. Or maybe I have stayed the same and the rest of the country has lurched to the right and now I appear more liberal.

    Kerry had all the charisma of a hat rack but I believed he would be a better president than Bush and I too believed W. needed to be sent back to Crawford for incompetence.

    The one thing I wonder about the above poll is how many of the electorate is truly independent anymore? I think a lot of people will call themselves independent publically because they don't want to have a confrontation about this or that issue and saying they are independent helps avoid that.

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    Yeah, I used to consider myself a moderate but I believe I have moved further to the left because of this administration. Or maybe I have stayed the same and the rest of the country has lurched to the right and now I appear more liberal.

    Kerry had all the charisma of a hat rack but I believed he would be a better president than Bush and I too believed W. needed to be sent back to Crawford for incompetence.

    The one thing I wonder about the above poll is how many of the electorate is truly independent anymore? I think a lot of people will call themselves independent publically because they don't want to have a confrontation about this or that issue and saying they are independent helps avoid that.

    I don't think there is just a left or right anymore as far as politicians go. It's almost like there is only a Extreme left or an Extreme right, and they won't even consider that they are both wrong on most issues.

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    Kerry had all the charisma of a hat rack.
    Sad that we chose a president on charisma and not competence.

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    Sad that we chose a president on charisma and not competence.

    Ummmm, I voted for Bill Clinton too.

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    Sad that we chose a president on charisma and not competence.
    We do elect the best campaigner (which includes charisma among other things), not the best candidate to be president.

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    We do elect the best campaigner (which includes charisma among other things), not the best candidate to be president.
    Worse than that, we usually elect, and re-elect the best-financed candidates, which is usually the in bant because he's swimming in corporate PAC and Party-loyalty money. For instance, Dewhurst has millions in the bank, while his opponents have less than $200.00 combined. Well no wonder that race is no contest.

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