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I'm glad to see that Coach Coattails is doing fine! That is until the Spurs beat up on his boys and really piss him off!
From ESPN's daily dime
Phil Jackson, meanwhile, was surprised to hear that the amount of Larry Brown's settlement . . . $18.5 million of the $41 million the Knicks owed him . . . had become public. I asked him what his reaction was, and whether he had any concerns.
"I don't want to express them. I just refuse to say anything about them," Jackson said before going ahead and saying something anyway. "Larry made out fine, and as long as he has a chance to come back and have another job, I'm sure he'll be coaching again next year and making a great salary."
I noted that Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said many coaches around the league were dismayed that Brown took a settlement, saying he hopes it does not set a precedent.
Jackson, not a big fan of Popovich or Brown, had this to say in response:
"If that was a concern to people, Popovich probably should have weighed in on [Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald] Sterling two or three coaches ago when he was breaking all their contracts years ago. That was a time when he should have been backing up coaches, not a $40 million situation that ends up with $18 million, but guys who were owed $500,000 or $600,000 and needed that kind of money.
"[Bill] Fitch was one of them, Bob Hill, [Alvin] Gentry, [Jim] Todd, Bob Weiss, they had to go to court. Those were concerns to our coaches' association, where an owner was exacerbating a situation. It was really something that got us angry as an association, but Mike Dunleavy has changed all that and has gotten them to spend some money."
I'm glad to see that Coach Coattails is doing fine! That is until the Spurs beat up on his boys and really piss him off!
Was that a cheap shot with the Bob Hill reference? or was that from another team?
Phuck Phil
Phil is a terd sandwich.
Before anything intelligent can be said, it must be established whether Phil has his facs correct or not.
I agree with ShoogarBear in that Pop may have supported the other coaches several years ago, but ESPN didn't care what Pop thought back then. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to listen....
Meanwhile, Phil Jackson doesn't lift a finger...
the relationship between larry and gregg is well known, in addition to pop being asked to testify in the case. of course they are going to ask him about it."If that was a concern to people, Popovich probably should have weighed in on [Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald] Sterling two or three coaches ago when he was breaking all their contracts years ago. That was a time when he should have been backing up coaches, not a $40 million situation that ends up with $18 million, but guys who were owed $500,000 or $600,000 and needed that kind of money.
maybe pop did chime in on the clipper sitations, or maybe he didn't because he wasn't asked.
Awkward."[Bill] Fitch was one of them, Bob Hill , [Alvin] Gentry, [Jim] Todd, Bob Weiss, they had to go to court.
I think Phil will always be at odds with Pop. I think Phil is concerned not only for his spot in the current coach "rankings" but also for his place among the greatest coaches of our time.
Sure, he has six rings to Pop's three but each of his championship squads had a pair of players from the NBA's 50 Greatest. Also, he pretty much stepped right into those situations whereas Pop had to build the Spurs piece by piece in a small, less player attractive market with an owner who put financial restraints on him. And when you consider the revolving door of role players, he won each championship with unique squads that he had to mold each time.
A lot of people can argue that these facts make Pop the better coach (or course, a lot of people will argue Phil's side as well) and I think Jackson is disgusted that Pop might be considered that.
Uh, no. Pop hasn't done squat without Tim Duncan. And nine rings to three? And back-to-back-to-backs?
Much as I dislike Phil, his resume dwarfs Pop's.
Did Phil stand up for Gentry, Hill, Fitch, Todd and Weiss or was he too busy working on his tell all memoirs, trashing his own players?
Phil's just forging the us VS them mentality for his team against the team he figures to be the toughest to beat in the playoffs.
Phil talks smack, his team rallies behind it, his opponents get distracted...it's something he's done with great success throughout his career.
Been there done that....
Besides, everyone knows that Pop does get Larry Brown's back out of a sense of obligation as much as anything else.
Larry Brown is no angel.
IMO, Pop would have rather not been included in this whole Knicks VS Brown thing...but without Brown Pop would likely not have a career as an NBA coach.
Just loyalty from Pop...admirable.
No other coaches like Phil so he's essentially got nothing to lose by doing this sort of thing.
Last time Phil took a personal shot at Pop though, the simulator crew whipped his butt. Let's hope for a repeat of that.
Oh, yeah, by the way . . . the Lakers are back!
On the nine to three basis of course but I think if Pop had those same teams, his result would have been the same. I would even argue that the result may have even been better since he may have been able to convince all of the Jerrys to hold onto the teams a little longer. The Bulls probably still had one or maybe even two championships left in them before the decision was made to blow up the team and in LA, I think Pop would have worked the Shaq-Kobe-Jerry relationship to a point where they could have stayed together.
And for the purposes of this discussion, I haven't argued that Pop is the better coach, only to say that Jackson may perceive that some people may consider him to be. Jackson is an arrogant jerk that would be insulted to have anyone even think about it or even that he has a peer on his level and I believe that is where his Pop hate is rooted.
Well, that's a pretty bold statement, and I don't buy the case that another coach could have won MORE championships than Phil if he had his teams.
That's like saying another coach could have won 10/10 years with Russell instead of Auerbach's paltry 9/10.
And the fact is that when ever Pop and Phil have gone head-to-head, Pop only has won when he's had the superior team. Phil at least showed in 2004 than he can beat Pop with an inferior team.
You have to forgive Phil; he's just so giddy that Red Auerbach is dead that he can't control what he says.
That's not in any way, shape or form what I've said. My opinion is based on the idea that each squad was broken up or allowed to fall apart before their potential championship runs were over.
Keeping those teams together MAY have and probably would have resulted in additional championships.
I'm not sure that the O'Neal-Bryant-Malone-Payton-Fisher-George Lakers of 2004 were an inferior team to the Nesterovic-Duncan-Bowen-Turkoglu-Parker-Ginobili Spurs of 2004. Certainly, Malone and Payton weren't what they had been, but they (particularly Malone) were still quite serviceable players. I'd think most Spurs fans would have taken a Nesterovic for Malone deal, for instance, without batting an eye.
I'd give the Lakers of that year the nod from a talent standpoint, but I still think the Spurs should have beaten that team.
Oaky, but there's no guarantee that Pop would have won the six championships with the Bulls that Jackson did. In fact, i would suggest that it's extremely unlikely.
And I don't see Pop in any way, shape, or form winning anywhere near three rings with those Lakers.
Maybe at the start of the year you would have an argument about the talent, but by the time that series started, nobody thought the Spurs would lose.
And the major reason for them losing was that PJax outcoached Pop.
Pop did try to get DFish in the 2000 offseason....
Would have made all the difference in the world in one of those playoff series.
FWIW, I agree with you that Phil is the best coach...9 rings is 9 rings, lots of coaches have had talent...few have 9 rings.
However, that doesn't change the fact that Phil is a head and it doesn't mean he always speaks the truth...
The thing Pop has been able to do is win with a small franchise which is not a mecca for superstar players.
Building and rebuilding teams in San Antonio to championship caliber is more difficult than persuading players to go to flashy urban cities like LA or Chicago to play with a pair of dominant all-time players like Jordan-Pippen or Shaq-Kobe.
But comparisons are futile because each coach has strengths and a good resume.
With the way Popovich handles his players and his inconsistent (and sometimes stupid) rotation pattern there's no way in he wins 3 straight les with the Lakers. He's a good coach and all but he hurts his team by micro-managing everything. Makes me think the guy is a control freak sometimes. And the "small ball" crap he pulled last year against the Mavs in the playoffs was just idiotic. I just don't think Phil Jackson would be dumb enough to keep sending a small lineup out there on the floor when the opponent is killing his team on the boards game after game.
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