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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:

    "With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan in the fourth quarter Wednesday night would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker without penalty, and the Spurs won in OT. "

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Boy, you're just one annoying little whiny , aren't you?

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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:

    "With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan in the fourth quarter Wednesday night would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker without penalty, and the Spurs won in OT. "
    Wow, it's not even the playoffs and folks are already whining!

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    i wouldnt say they got screwed. they simply didnt play well enough to win. you shouldnt have to win a game with a technical foul called on the other team. winning a game that way doesnt prove anything, and is about the lowest quality win you can possibly have.

    however, i do agree that the technical rule needs to be more consistent. some people get ridiculous technicals just because refs dont like them (Rasheed). others get away with a ridiculous amount of crap though (in your case Duncan, even though i never saw the game, and how much he actually complained, although Popovich and Horry got away with one against the Mavs when they were screaming right in the refs face for like 10 straight seconds. but other players get away with arguing quite a bit too.)

    either way, to say your team got screwed because a technical foul for arguing wasnt called, is about the tiest excuse for a loss.

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    This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend sandman's Avatar
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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:

    "With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan in the fourth quarter Wednesday night would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker without penalty, and the Spurs won in OT. "
    Wow, this is Cuban-level excuse making. You lost the game because a dead-ball technical was NOT called? And I suppose your argument is that Raja Bell would have made the technical free throw, right?

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    annnnnnnnddddd Nash got away with a couple too.

    So, yeah.



    Yawn.

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    They should T up Duncan every time he does the bug-eyed palms up "who me?" thing...

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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:
    You're welcome.

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    I think they got nailed is more appropriate.
    It also helps to know that not many people here give a about ESPN, or what anyone there has to say.

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    Refs are never going to call a foul that could change the outcome of a game. That's why whey are much more apt to allow more contact at the end of games. No calls are better than su ious foul calls.

    Besides, complaining to the refs is always going to be a subjective thing. What one ref considers reasonable case-pleading may be considered too much or intimidation by another ref.

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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    however, i do agree that the technical rule needs to be more consistent. some people get ridiculous technicals just because refs dont like them (Rasheed). others get away with a ridiculous amount of crap though (in your case Duncan, even though i never saw the game, and how much he actually complained, although Popovich and Horry got away with one against the Mavs when they were screaming right in the refs face for like 10 straight seconds. but other players get away with arguing quite a bit too.)
    I'm not sure how it can be consistently applied. What is complaining/whining, and what is asking for an explanation? It's an inherently discretionary call and with human officials, the exercise of that discretion will always lead to inconsistency. For instance, Bavetta has about the slowest trigger in the NBA for technical fouls -- Bavetta has, for years, let players carry on and complain about calls, and rarely T's anyone up. On the other end of the spectrum are guys like Joey Crawford, who has about the quickest trigger in the NBA for doling out T's -- it seems sometimes like Joey gives out T's because a player thought something about him, without even saying it.

    Under the new interpretation, a player who is insistent that a foul should or should not have been called is still going to be viewed differently by Bavetta and Crawford -- Bavetta is still more likely to see a guy who is animated and to asking pointedly for an explanation as only asking for an explanation (not a T under the new emphasis) while Joey might be quicker to T up a guy who is doing nothing other than asking for an explanation, without being animated or complaining. I don't see how the league can possibly change that, because short of outlawing any player communication with the game officials, it seems to me that there's no meaningful way to draw a bright-line rule concerning what is and is not acceptable. Officials interpret the way that players speak to them and that interpretation is inherently subjective.

    And it's always weak to blame the result of a game on officiating. Always.

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    you shouldnt be complain when ur team choke when you guys were up 9pts midway through the 4 period......

    sons = weak ass team

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    As if Nash doesn't complain about calls........he should have been called for a technical when he kept complaining about being held on one of his drives in the 4th quarter. So I guess it still would have gone into overtime if all the te als were called like they should have.

    Perhaps if Nash gets called for a technical for his complaints we would have won the game without going into overtime.

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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:

    "With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan in the fourth quarter Wednesday night would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker without penalty, and the Spurs won in OT. "
    barbosa has never committed a foul that he is aware of...

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    I was a few rows back under the basket and I saw Nash whining to the refs PLENTY.

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    yawn. are you really still at this? the game is over. you did not lose the WCF or the Finals.

    get.over.it.

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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:

    "With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan in the fourth quarter Wednesday night would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker without penalty, and the Spurs won in OT. "
    i guess he doesn't watch Lebron play

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    Refs are never going to call a foul that could change the outcome of a game.

    Bull ing .

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    It seems to me that the refs have backed off on the technicals compared to the first week of the season, some people don't seem to understand that and want the technicals called the same way they were in the first week, which is strange because everyone complained about it being too much.

    Well the league obviously listened and that's why no technical fouls were called in the Phoenix game...

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    weakest thread ever.

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    Who gives a . The W still counts.

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    I thank ESPN for agreeing with me:

    "With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan in the fourth quarter Wednesday night would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker without penalty, and the Spurs won in OT. "
    The Suns blew yet another healthy and screwed themselves.

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    The Suns blew yet another healthy and screwed themselves.
    Yep.

    The Suns had many opportunity to close out the game or at least hold the lead to no avail.

    Biggest moment that comes to mind is the play when Amare grabbed a rebound and didn't secure the ball. TP took it no prob and got an and 1 out of the ordeal.

    Blaming others is what losers do.

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    The suns got robbed by some calls late in that game. They should've won that game. Amare's 6th foul was bull because the shot clock expired. That was a big momentum swing.

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    The suns got robbed by some calls late in that game. They should've won that game. Amare's 6th foul was bull because the shot clock expired. That was a big momentum swing.
    LOL....

    I guess you don't have much to say about your 0-4 Mavs so you might as well stick up for the Suns....

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