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Are you gay? You sure seem to be all over anti- issues. Perhaps you have a gay uncle.
This was from the Media Matters website, which keeps track of most of the absurd things that sick bas s like Michael Savage say on the radio and television.SAVAGE: And I want to tell you something, and I'm going to say it to you loud and clear. The radical sexual agenda will not stop until religion is outlawed in this country. Make no mistake about it. They're all not nice decorators. You better get it through your head before it's too late. They threaten your very survival. They went after the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is now caving into the sexual mafia. They will not stop until they force their agenda down your throats. Gay marriage is just the tip of the iceberg. They want full and total subjugation of this society to their agenda. Now, if you want that and if you don't think it's a threat -- believe me, that is what's going to occur in this country.
The sexual mafia...wow. I am stunned. Well, I guess it is fitting, they do want something so base, vile, and disgusting as their rights as citizens on this country. I suppose we had the feminist mafia in the early 1900's, we had the African mafia during the middle-late 1900's, and now we have the "purple hand" dominating life today by demanding such perverse things as equality.
Damn them straight to the fiery pits of for wanting the ideas behind America realized.
Oh yeah, and they want complete subjugation of society. This is not fear-mongering at all, and paints a very rosy picture of the future. Does Savage believe that we will be forced into sexuality by the point of the rainbow-colored sword? Will we be burnt at the stake for heterosexuality? Though it would be a fitting turn of the tide, and would rectify wrongs of the past, I highly doubt that this will happen.
The same thing was said of women, of black, of everybody that wants what they are denied. They always claim that it will end America. They always claim that it will bring out God's wrath. They always claim that it will not end until the white male protestant has been stricken to his knees and stripped of all of his glory and honor.
The ball continues to roll, the tide continues to change, and the Earth continues its revolution. Things will never change. There will always be a group out there that people, no...animals, like Michael Savage will claim are trying to subjugate the proud WASP's, and will stop at nothing until they have their way.
Are you gay? You sure seem to be all over anti- issues. Perhaps you have a gay uncle.
Since when is promoting sexuality an American idea?
I'm not a listener,or supporter of M Savage, but I'll spell out why promoting sexuality isn't "the American idea" for some of us.
Romans-18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of human beings who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal human beings and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
And that's the American dream? I'm every bit as tolerant as God is on this issue.
Have a good time attacking how God feels about it.
Good lord, you do not even know where you live, do you? You should have been born in Iran, where you would have been more at home.
No, America was founded on FREEDOM OF RELIGION. What the Bible says, or what God says, it completely f***ing irrelevant.
Are you that blind to logic, reason, or independent thought???
Yeah, thats real big snake. Congratulations, you have just proven your ignorance.
I have to be gay, or have a gay relative, to support gay marriage...that makes sense.
Do you have to be black to know that slavery is wrong? Do you have to be a woman to know that they should be allowed to vote? Do you have to be a child to know that we whould protect them from rape and molestation?
If you were even halfway serious when you said that, then you are a sick joke, and a pathetic excuse for a human being.
LMFAOThey went after the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is now caving into the sexual mafia.
The Catholic Church IS the sexual Mafia.
Hmm..good point, I hadn't considered that.LMFAO
The Catholic Church IS the sexual Mafia.
So, God made them this way because he was pissed off? That sounds fair. That sounds like the American dream.
But anyway, onward we go...
Are you claiming that sexuals are gossipers, slanderers, God-haters, arrogant, that they have no mercry, and no love? Man, what an antiquated book.
Is it not possible, then, that Sodom and Gonorrhea were destroyed for their citizens having this medley of evils, and that being sexually oriented was not the sole reason, or reason enough, for their destruction.
I mean, , God allowed the ancient Greeks to do pretty well for themselves, they were never bombed or plagued, and they loved man-sex, and worshipped false Gods. Does God not pay attention to everybody, or does God only like to do it to some people? Does he flip a coin? Are we next?
Well, thank you Buck. I appreciate you noticing my abundant wisdom, but I still doubt that that makes me a fool to God. I remember Solomon being said to be the wisest man that ever lived. Did God think him a fool as well?
Hmm, worth considering, isn't it?
Well, no...I am not jerking off at the moment, and your worthless post just took away any of the mood that I might have had. Yay, the world is now saved!
And while I do try to break the 10 commandments every day, I still have not done that good of a job. I think that I still have a few left that I have never touched....so I am just an evil pagan- in training.
BTW, judge not lest you be judged by the same judgement....let he who is without sin cast the first stone.....you love practicing what you preach, jackass.
That makes the two of us even in our evil ways in the eyes of God. I guess, if you are right about me, that I will see you in my friend.
Oh yes, and I forgot, give unto caesars that which is caesars.
Amen
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You throw those comparisons out there and then call me ignorant?
, while were at it, lets equate the treatment of sexuals with that of the Jews in the Hitler era.
Riiight! I've been to church perhaps 5 times in my life. It ain't about religion to me. Its about two dude's getting it on that makes me want to puke.
Yes, I do want to throw those comparisons out there. Slavery was worse, but it was in a different era, when we were still stuck in the damned dark ages.You throw those comparisons out there and then call me ignorant?
Women not voting was worse in one sense - that voting is more important than marriage - but less important in the sense that not many women were drug through the streets on cars or killed for being women. sexuals are treated horribly in our society.
If you consider the time in history that we live in, then it is at least as bad. Society needs to progress again, and it will happen. Eventually.
Can you stop them from having sex? No.
Will they have sex more when they get married? No, look at the statistics. Allowing them to get married might end sexual sex, or even sexuality.
Will allowing them to get married create new sexuals? No.
The two dudes will get it on regardless, the only difference is that they are not being discriminated against in the process.
[QUOTE]That's one of the more ignorant statements I've heard from you, and it does not merit a response.
When the ulative impact of logic, reason or independent thought oppose the Wisdom of God, they are relagated to being nothing more than foolishness. When a person decides to make this foolishness a part of their cons ution, they in essence have become fools. Is that succinct enough for you?Are you that blind to logic, reason, or independent thought???
And I independently made the choice to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ and God, and your tirade regarding this shows that you have lathered yourself with the lovely qualities of ignorance and intolerance.
What are you, all of 23? And you have all of the right answers! Truly amazing!
Turambar's logic and reasoning vs the wisdom of God. The Mother of all Mismatches.
[QUOTE=jochhejaam]That's one of the more ignorant statements I've heard from you, and it does not merit a response.
When the ulative impact of logic, reason or independent thought oppose the Wisdom of God, they are relagated to being nothing more than foolishness. When a person decides to make this foolishness a part of their cons ution, they in essence have become fools. Is that succinct enough for you?
And I independently made the choice to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ and God, and your tirade regarding this shows that you have lathered yourself with the lovely qualities of ignorance and intolerance.
What are you, all of 23? And you have all of the right answers! Truly amazing!
Turambar's logic and reasoning vs the wisdom of God. The Mother of all Mismatches.
No. Turambars logic and reasoning V. the wisdom of Christianity being used as the basis for laws. The mother of all mismatches.
And, no, that statement was not foolish. You would have been much more suited to having been born in a religious state. If not Iran, then perhaps England during the 17-1800's. You believe that these religious teachings can be used to create legislation. That is the true ignorance. Even your Bible does not agree with that notion.
Do you really not understand the concept behind give unto caesar that which is caesars?
Let me break this down for you:
First, as before, Jesus himself said that there should be a seperation of church and state in that quote.
Second, do you think that God would want religion in the hands of man, or worse yet, politicians? The cornerstone of religion is faith. The cornerstone of faith is free will. If you make laws based on religious doctrine, then you remove faith and free will from the picture, it becomes similar to a speed-limit.
I do not follow the speed-limit because it is right and just, I do so because I dont have the cash to pay the fine. When you legislate God's laws, then you are placing them in this very same vein, and they lose the only meaning that they had.
God could have used his power to force us to obey his commandments. He could have stripped us of the free-will to commit evil acts. He could have forced us to obey him. He could have made us so that we never had sexual desires. But you know what? He didn't.
God did not do this because it would no longer be our decision to follow him, it would no longer be our choice to do right. God had a reason for doing this. And now, just like the Catholic church of past ages, you want religious laws to be the basis for our nations laws. You want to make God's word the states word. This is not religious, this is wrong.
It is wrong from a religious standpoint.
It is wrong from a secular standpoint.
It is plain wrong.
Thanks for the new sig, Joch.
First of all you, it's as if the world did not come into existance until the mid 80's.
Joche is right, this is a country that has always been about conservative christian values, although any person with some maturity would not be able to draw a generalization from that comment, because we live in a world where everyone and anyone is liable not to follow their beliefs to the full letter of the law and we are all not pure.
Just to warn you, the above paragraph is your idiot test, if for any reason you happen to just skim through and not comprehend what i'm writing and then preced with a " But i know of many christians who are hypocrites,.." argument, this proves that you are indeed an idiot.
Second the qoute of Savage you used, is an example of him trying to call out sexual activist who are threatening and trying to pressure the church.
He is ranting against sexual activist shoving their agenda into our churches, and private lives, and those who are trying to change the meaning of the sacrament of marriage.
The law already implies that heterosexual marriages are the one and only legaly recognized union.
We're not here trying to change america, it is they.
Even were you to be correct in saying that Savage is only ranting about the activists, then I still have two major qualms with his statement.
First, he does not differentiate between the two. He lumps all sexuals, at least all who want to be married, in the same pot and says they will destroy America. No, only religious laws will destroy America.
Second, you would be hard-pressed to find 1% of the sexual population that wants anything that would be bad for America. The only reason that we have that 1% of extreme activists is because we won't even allow the moderates what they want. There are extremists within every group. That is no reason, or excuse, for damning the entire movement, and creating hatred within your fanbase of dronish rednecks.
I doubt if gays want to have sex in your home or your church, g, so your "intrusion" argument is specious, and since most marriages are now done in the courthouse, it's not really a sacrament anymore, and hasn't been for some time. It's a legal method for joining two lives.
Wow,
You are totally clueless.
This has nothing to do with sex in the church you silly,
It has to do with gay activist wanting the church to accept it as an equal practice and accept gay preist.
Wow,
You are totally clueless.
This has nothing to do with them wanting to put gay priests in church, you silly.
It has everything to do with the church already having dozens of priests who suck off little boys and keep their jobs. I suppose that sticking your penis in a 12 year old boys ass is somehow better than doing it willingly with somebody of your own age.
Jackass
I am not making a generalization when referring to Savage Nation listeners. I have listened for s and giggles, and he is the most hate-filled man that I have ever heard, and he hates Bush for being too moderate!
You have to be a hate-filled person to enjoy listening to such a hate-filled speaker, so that does not take much of a generalization to reach.
His claim, then, if it is what you now say it is, is not bad for generalizing about sexuals, but for claiming that all of them, even the ones who just want marraige, are trying to subjugate America. That is ignorant, simple, and hate-inspired.
He reminds me of the guy from V for Vendetta.
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