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Beno has played well on one side of the floor this year, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a good point guard for this team due to his defense. He may be an NBA point guard but I don't think he's a Spurs point guard.
Not that Vaughn did anything spectacular, but Udrih got so owned in his one minute of play that it was embarrassing.
Beno comes in the game and AJ calls out a play and Anthony Johnson (Beno's cover) got a layup. Pop calls a timeout, yells at Beno to fight harder through the pick. Next play, AJ calls the same play and it results in another layup. WTF?
Udrih has sucked horribly this year and has gotten a free pass by the coaching staff and this forum for the most part. The Spurs are in a key early season game and Beno plays the softest defense and shows no will to compete.
That's a horrible sign for the Spurs supposed backup point guard.
Beno has played well on one side of the floor this year, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a good point guard for this team due to his defense. He may be an NBA point guard but I don't think he's a Spurs point guard.
True dat, true dat....
What I have seen of Udrih this year (national tv), he has looked very good.What?Beno has played well on one side of the floor this year
He's shooting like 35% on the year.
Vaughn's D was good, he looked very rusty on offense wich is understandable.
Im sure Beno will hop off the bench sunday night against Earl WatsonUgh...
I think that Beno just can't handle playing in a big game. And if that is really the case, then we should seriously look into trading him.
Geeze.. welcome to reality timvp.
They both ing suck.
My bad, 37.8%.
He had a couple glimpses of playing well this season. Overall he has sucked offensively and defensively.
And like 20% on threes. That's not even mentioning his assists. Take out his one fluke game of nine assists and he'd be averaging less assists this year than he did last year when he was barely playing.
Damn Portland and them being smart enough to turn down Udrih for Jack...
Maybe New Orleans is stupid enough to trade Jannero Pargo for him.
Ya think? Maybe? Please?
Is my le coming in handy right now?
Damn Portland and them being smart enough to turn down Udrih for Jack...
Maybe New Orleans is stupid enough to trade Jannero Pargo for him.
Ya think? Maybe? Please?No thanks on Pargo. He shoots sub 40% from the field. About 15% on 3's. Sucks on D. And averages about 1 assist in 13mpg.
Well the next time he goes for 8 and 10 in a game, they better be waiving him out the door like a ing carrot.Damn Portland and them being smart enough to turn down Udrih for Jack...
Maybe New Orleans is stupid enough to trade Jannero Pargo for him.
Ya think? Maybe? Please?
Boykins is 2 short and is absolutely useless in a playoff game.
I guess whenever I've seen him he's looked decent. I think he's missed more open jumpers than usual, but his shot making has been pretty decent.
duhorn will be a good pickup
I don't think the Nuggets are THAT stupid!
We'd have a better chance trading Beno to the Knicks for Nate Robinson. (THE Dirk stopper!)
Vaughn can't make a shot, he is alway goes in the paint, and he never makes a layup. I'm not saying that he is not good, but I think Beno is better.
I thought Vaughn killed us in the 3 and early 4th. He couldn't get anything goingg and it was shame because the start of the 4th the Spurs had ample opportunities to take over the game, but no one could score. Why Pop kept Tim and Tony sitting I just can't figure that out. I really liked that Pop pulled Beno right off, but then I felt he should have let him come back in the 2nd half and try to redeem himself, because Vaughn was like a fish out of water. He made some good plays but more than once he tried to score on drives but led to bad shots and he even got bailed out on one drive that was horrible. And he turned the ball over a couple of times there in the 3rd in key moments.
Anyway, I think Beno is going to ride some pine for a while if not for the rest of the season. Pop bailed out on Beno big time. I think Pop had flashbacks from the Detroit finals.
Beno hasn't played spectacularly enough to keep the job.
Id give Vaughn a couple more shots, sunday and monday.
Bigger quick good PGs in Monta Ellis and Earl Watson to deal with.
I'm not arguing Beno's case (seriously how could I?)
But Jacques Vaughn? Against the Mavs?
I think I'm going to agree with Sequ on this one.
I remember timvp beeing happy about beno play lately
ohhh welll
Beno has been horrible at defending Johnson but it's something that can be corrected in an one hour in practice.
The fourth quarter has shown why Spurs need to have Beno as backup PG. With Spurs new big 3 rotation, there are 10 mpg without Duncan and Parker and Spurs can't aford to have a PG who can't score during this 10 min.
I like the way Beno is playing on the offensive end because he is aggresive. His shot is quite off for the moment (24% 3pt%) but at least he gives some offense and allow Spurs to score some points when Duncan and Parker are on the bench.
His assists number is quite low but it's too because some Spurs players are really cold (Manu 41% FG%, Finley 32% FG% and Horry 24% FG%).
So Udrih>Vaughn, even if Beno needs to put more efforts on the defensive end and needs to be more focused but he has still 70 games to be ready. I just hope that Pop won't be tired of Beno's mistakes and play Vaughn as backup PG because he is a very limited player.
Good point.
And about Beno's shoting. Remember about Parker's shoting last season, we were all ing that he shots to much, however it was Pop's instruction to shot more. Looking how Beno's shot is cool on too many occasions I still think, that it is Pop's instruction to shot more. Frankly, which perimeter player beside Parker and Barry has decent shot this year?
Looking at +/-, it seems that Vaughn was pretty effective. CLICK
Saying that, Beno should be aware that defense buys playing time, without effort on defense, there will be bench warming only with any team - especially true with Pop as coach.
Agree.
If Pop wants a PG who doesn't shot, Vaughn would be Spurs' backup PG.
BTW, Beno has always shot a lot with Spurs :
2004-2005 : 13.6 FGA/40min
2005-2006 : 15.8 FGA/40min
2006-2007 : 14.5 FGA/40min
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