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    Cleveland 107, Indiana 75
    Cleveland 107, Indiana 75

    Preview - Box Score - Recap

    By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer
    December 9, 2006

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    CLEVELAND (AP) -- Stephen Jackson didn't last until halftime. By then, the Indiana Pacers were done anyway.

    LeBron James scored 24 points -- mostly with Jackson trying to guard him -- in the first half and finished with 27 to lead the Cleveland Cavaliers to a 107-75 win over the flustered Pacers on Saturday night.

    Indiana's ugly loss was compounded by an incident in the first half involving Jackson, who was kicked off the Pacers' bench by coach Rick Carlisle.

    Late in the second quarter, Jackson was pulled by Carlisle and the two had words. Carlisle then pointed for Jackson to leave the bench area, banishing the fiery guard to the locker room for the remainder of the game.

    "I subs uted for him. He came to the bench and an exchange ensued that I thought was inappropriate and detrimental to the team," Carlisle said. "So I made a decision to remove him from the bench.

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    "These games are difficult. If you don't have everybody with a laser-like focus on one task, which is playing like a team and competing hard, it gets even more difficult."

    It's the latest controversy surrounding Jackson. The 28-year-old is facing charges of firing a gun during a fight outside a strip club in Indianapolis on Oct. 6. He could go to trial in February.

    Two years ago, Jackson went into the stands and fought Detroit fans during the Pacers' infamous brawl with fans in Detroit.

    Following the game, Jackson was on his way out of Quicken Loans Arena, escorted by two security personnel, when Pacers assistant coach Chuck Person summoned to have him brought back to the locker room.

    Jackson went inside for a moment before leaving again. On his way out, Jackson declined an interview request.

    "No," he said. "I'm cool."

    Carlisle said he had not yet spoken with Jackson, and at this point no further discipline was planned.


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    "As of right now, this is a one-game situation and if that changes I'll let you know," Carlisle said. "I expect this is an incident that's isolated and will be dealt with as such.

    "I loved the way Jack played the last two games. He was a leader and he was focused. He had a great demeanor and he's one of our better players and that's what we expect from him every night. But when something like this happens, it has to be addressed."

    Jackson's teammates had little to say afterward.

    "Oh, no," said forward Al Harrington. "Hear no evil, see no evil."

    James had seven rebounds, six assists and spent the entire fourth quarter relaxing on the bench. The Cavaliers built a 24-point lead in the first half and coasted to their most lopsided win this season.

    Zydrunas Ilgauskas had 15 points and Donyell Marshall added a season-high 17 rebounds for the Cavs. Cleveland outrebounded Indiana 57-34.

    Darrell Armstrong had 13 points and Danny Granger 12 for the Pacers.

    Ilgauskas scored just two points on only two shots when the teams met on Nov. 24 -- a 10-point win by Indiana. But the 7-foot-3 center was able to maneuver inside as the Pacers were without forward Jermaine O'Neal, who missed his second straight game with a strained left hamstring.

    Leading by 14 at halftime, the Cavaliers outscored Indiana 28-13 to open an 84-55 lead entering the fourth.

    James, who went 10-of-11 from the floor in the first half, was replaced with 20 seconds to go in the third and got some rare rest on the bench in the final 12 minutes.


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    "I'm not very good at sitting, but it was good," James said. "We did a good job jumping on a team and not letting up. It was great to finally get a blowout."

    Larry Hughes, who missed Cleveland's previous 10 games with a sprained right ankle, scored eight points in 24 minutes.

    However, Hughes' return was tempered by the loss of Cavs forward Drew Gooden, who injured his left groin trying to dunk during pregame warmups.

    With no O'Neal to block or impede their way, the Cavaliers drove to the basket at will in the first half for layups, and of course, a few dunks by James.

    Cleveland led by 15 in the first quarter and extended its lead to 24 when James blasted down the left side for a layup with 3:20 to go before halftime. The bucket incited a chant of "You can't stop him," from fans in the upper deck at about the same time Jackson was being yanked by Carlisle.

    The Pacers, though, cut 10 points off Cleveland's lead as the 38-year-old Armstrong scored 10 points in the final 2:26 and started a 14-4 run as Indiana closed to 56-42 at halftime.

    Notes

    In the final seconds, LeBron James Jr. tossed an orange toy ball on the floor, drawing a roar from the crowd and a laugh from his dad. ... James was an Olympic teammate of Allen Iverson's and wouldn't mind playing again with the 76ers' troubled point guard, who appears to be on the verge of being traded by Philadelphia. "I'm not trying to stir something up around here, but he's a Hall of Famer, who wouldn't want to play with him?" James said. "Anyone in the league would want to play with a guy like that." James feels the best thing for Iverson and Philly is to part ways. "It's very difficult for him to swallow," he said. "But he has to understand that and move on." ... The Cavaliers are 20-2 at home since March 5.

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    LeBron James Jr. tossed an orange toy ball on the floor, drawing a roar from the crowd and a laugh from his dad.

    so james son can do that and get away with it but an average fan's son can not
    PATHETIC

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    sj + tinsley for ai LOL

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    Welcome back, son.

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    LeBron James Jr. tossed an orange toy ball on the floor, drawing a roar from the crowd and a laugh from his dad.

    so james son can do that and get away with it but an average fan's son can not
    PATHETIC
    You gotta be kidding, right? I mean, right?

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    wish the Spurs could pull the trigger and pick him back up.

    Jackson would solve so many problems.

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    wish the Spurs could pull the trigger and pick him back up.

    Jackson would solve so many problems.
    Yup, we ARE looking for a trouble maker to fill that void. ing genious, forgive me for forgetting that one.

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    Yup, we ARE looking for a trouble maker to fill that void. ing genious, forgive me for forgetting that one.
    he was never a headache when he played for us, the only problem was that he wanted to start instead of playiin from the bench

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    he was never a headache when he played for us, the only problem was that he wanted to start instead of playiin from the bench
    Actually the only problem was he wanted a lot of money that the Spurs weren't willing to offer.

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    Exactly, had the Spurs not been stupid, and ponied up for him in 03, wed be looking at a three peat this year. Jackson is a good rebounder, good defender, a LONG defender, and when coached and surrounded by good character guys, he does good.

    Indiana is surrounded by knuckleheads and peanutheads and Jax has ALWAYS been easily influenced.

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    Exactly, had the Spurs not been stupid, and ponied up for him in 03, wed be looking at a three peat this year. Jackson is a good rebounder, good defender, a LONG defender, and when coached and surrounded by good character guys, he does good.

    Indiana is surrounded by knuckleheads and peanutheads and Jax has ALWAYS been easily influenced.
    Oh I don't think he was worth the money he wanted at that time. He should have taken the Spurs offer. I don't think he was worth $7M+ a year or whatever back then.

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    yes, jackson was a good contributor. but the spurs way to keeping a winning team is to not overpay guys and usually make the right decisions (malik and rasho are exceptions).

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    Oh I don't think he was worth the money he wanted at that time. He should have taken the Spurs offer. I don't think he was worth $7M+ a year or whatever back then.
    how much was the low balled offer the spurs gave him? shouldve thrown the MLE at him....

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    Spurs have all they need at the 2/3, they don't need to add a "fiery" cancer there, they don't need a poor shooter who does not assist, rebound, or hustle.

    SJax isn't the same as he was in 2003. He's got his big contract and his head is much bigger (but still empty).

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    As far as I remember there was some babysitting job in the 2003 playoffs

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    Young 2003 Manu and 2003 Buckets was definite good times.

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    Who would thought that S-Jack cold be kicked from the bench by his coach.?

    He's a nice guy.

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    how much was the low balled offer the spurs gave him? shouldve thrown the MLE at him....
    We offered him 3 yrs/$10 million if I remember correctly. Lots of people ragged on him for walking away from that and taking a one year/league min deal from Atlanta, but it obviously worked out for him from a financial standpoint...Maybe not so much from a quality of life standpoint.

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    Exactly, had the Spurs not been stupid, and ponied up for him in 03, wed be looking at a three peat this year. Jackson is a good rebounder, good defender, a LONG defender, and when coached and surrounded by good character guys, he does good.

    Indiana is surrounded by knuckleheads and peanutheads and Jax has ALWAYS been easily influenced.
    The Spurs made a financial decision not to overpay S-Jax so they could lock up Tim, Tony and Manu for the long term AND keep some flexability to add other solid pieces around the big three.

    The rumor is S-Jax was a model team player as a Spur. The truth is S-Jax was high maintence because of pouting and other character flaws. After one solid season, it was S-Jax and his agent that made the decision to price Stephen out of the market, in consideration of the Spurs other championship building considerations.

    I appreciate what S-Jax delivered in 2003. But it is S-Jax and S-Jax Fans who need to understand; it is Stephen and only Stephen, who must take responsiblilty for where he is. And that is not with the Spurs.

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    They won't trade for him for one reason: it would up their '08 plan. I don't think they've made the moves they have made (and not made) over the past several off seasons so that in '08 they can retain a (then) 30 YO Stephen Jackson from '08 to '10.

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    "Jackson is a good rebounder"

    only in your opinion.

    With 2.7 RB/game this season, he'd be the 8th best Spurs rebounder

    His career AST and STL are even lower. His hustle stats are worthless.

    He's a ty 3G shooter, career 33% vs. Spurs team 40%.

    He's stupid, adolescent head case who takes too much hand-holding and forgiving to produce too little.

    Spurs staff and players have better things to do than nurse this jerk for such poor output.

    Even with the Spurs in 02/03, his epitaph was "he keeps both teams in the game".
    Last edited by boutons_; 12-10-2006 at 12:56 PM.

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    yes, jackson was a good contributor. but the spurs way to keeping a winning team is to not overpay guys and usually make the right decisions (malik and rasho are exceptions).
    Actually Malik and Rasho and Nazr and Steve Jax aren't exceptions. They contributed to championships--but when their ratio of contibutions (+) to salary (-) got too lopsided, they were traded or let go.

    Spurs FO and Pop make very unsentimental and very sharp judgements on this plus and minus ratio.

    And they are almost invariably right as the ulative results of their actions with these players show.
    Last edited by wildbill2u; 12-10-2006 at 12:42 PM. Reason: forgot to add SJax

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    James has a son already? James can't be older than 23..

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    James has a son already? James can't be older than 23..
    So? He's been a millionaire since he was 19.

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