The Suns have now won 15 in a row! The west is not about 2 teams this year (Spurs/Mavs) and I wish people would stop saying that. The Suns are for real and people need to ing realize this. This is not a 5 game series type of team anymore and they will be a very tough to beat in a series. The west is so ing loaded that 3-5 teams actually have a realistic chance of winning it all.
that. the Nets won like 13 or something in a row a few years ago. does that mean they were true le contenders? the Suns are a good team, but they still play NO defense, and cant rebound worth a . to win in the playoffs, the two most important things are to be able to play defense, and rebound the basketball. they dont do either. the suns are a nice team, but wont win jack . either the Spurs or the Mavericks WILL win the le this year.
the suns will get 16 straight tomorrow night. I doubt AI plays and even if he does its not like the team will gel from the get go.
The Suns manage to nearly push you guys 7 games last year with no amare,kurt thomas, and Raja Bell playing on 1 ing leg and they eliminated you 2 years ago. They are going to be ing tough in a series and it is re ed to deny that.
The west is loaded.
Thank you. At least you know more then 2 teams are very capable of winning it all.
AI isnt playing tomorrow. His 1st game will be Saturday vs the Kings
BTW the Heat werent exactly an amazing defensive club either yet they managed to win the le. Go figure
The west is loaded, but only 3 teams have a chance of winning it.......
I think a healthy Lakers team would give ing fits to anyone in a series. They are so deep,versatile,athletic and have big fowards who can give teams serious headaches and matchup issues. IF Houston is healthy they would give serious fits as well. The Mavs/Spurs/Suns is the true top 3 in the west.
Eh, I still don't see them as a powerhouse come playoff time. Remember, in 2003, the Mavs started out 14-0 and everyone jumped on their sack. Fact of the matter is, the Suns are just the like the Mavs and Kings from 3-4 years ago. All scoring, no defense. Unless the Suns add some rebounders (besides Marion) and start playing defense, they're not going anywhere.
Suns are a nice little team! While I do agree the west is this loaded, it comes down to the Mavs first then everybody else comes in after them. Spurs are probably 2nd but lots of teams can challenge them for that spot. Suns MIGHT take that spot away from them but we shall see.
Wrong. Spurs > Suns > Mavs
Wrong. Spurs > Suns > Mavs
I just chuckle reading all these things - a Mavs fan talking about defense... Then this guy saying the Suns don't "have rebounders." FYI, they have more than just Marion out there in terms of guys who can rebound. Rebounding is more about getting good position and imposing your will. The Suns have the athletes capable of doing this, so they don't need to "go get another one." Question is - will these players such as Amare, Boris Diaw, and Kurt Thomas step up and make a concerted effort to start rebounding? That is left to be seen.
I don't think a team that is holding opponents to 41% shooting over this winning streak, is now second in the league in point-differential, and is not giving up the most PPG in the league must play some kind of defense out there. Whether they can sustain this effort for a playoff series remains to be seen. You obviously haven't watched many Suns games this year and you are basing your arguments off whatever Charles Barkely or some dumbass on ESPN says. (Barkley, btw, didn't play that much defense, but he sure could rebound.)
I'm tired of this constant Spurs and Mavs bias that the Suns never play defense - they are genuinely putting forth the effort to clamp down on the defensive end this year, and while they still have lapses, it is a start. I mean, they didn't have to hire Avery Johnson and then "suddenly" become a defensive team, while then ing that every other team plays "bear-hug" defense.
To retort your comment about the 2003 Mavs... that team seems a lot like the 2004-05 Suns who jumped out to a 30-4 record and everyone starting proclaiming a 70-win season. That team has changed dramatically in 2 years and realized over the past 2 seasons that perhaps a little defensive effort is necessary to win in the playoffs despite 2 deep WCF runs (can't say the Spurs or Mavs got to the last two WCFs can we?).
Also, you fail to realize that they lost their two main "enforcers" and "rebounders" in Kurt Thomas and Amare Stoudemire, but both of those guys are healthy and getting back in shape this year. I guess Amare doesn't "rebound" when he gets 7-straight double-doubles for the first time in his career. Start watching a game or two (since I'm sure you just look at the boxscore or your 2005 Spurs Championship DVD to form your opinions). Look past the PPG and maybe look at blocked shots/steals which are both steadily increasing for this years' Suns. Just come to me with something different than what every dumbass on this message board says.
Dirk still plays NO defense and has ZERO ability to deliver in the clutch. Jason Terry still plays NO defense and is equally ty when the game is on the line. The Mavs have NO offensive options besides running the ball through Dirk. Josh Howard still has NO discipline and is an immature punk who gets frustrated by Bruce Bowen in the first game of the year and has to throw an elbow.
This is the right order here. Mavs>Spurs>Suns
This season, yes...
ONLY because Dallas took out Spurs in the WCF.... they are not the better team however... 14>>>>>1 in playoff series as far as Im concerned.
Dallas Ponnies still have ALOT to prove... can they do it again??? possibly.... but only time will tell. THIS is the key for Mavs fans to get respect around here and you need to keep that in mind. One series aint .
Youv'e won one series against the MANY times you've played the Spurs in the playoffs... granted the team looks better than ever.... but prove it.
You beat me to it RonMexico!The Suns are improving in rebounding and defense now that Kurt Thomas is back and Amare is playing so well. Cannot wait until we play the Mavs in December.
They are too much a one on one team and we play as a team.
You beat me to it RonMexico!
2005 playoffs.... wasnt Amare Healthy then??
4-1..... WHOOPS!!!
Suns are improving in defense.... maybe a fraction.... but they are still a run-and-gun, die-by-the-3-pointer team even WITH Amare.
Devin Harris is distributing pretty well. Dallas passes more than you think. Anyways the mavs are one of the few teams that can matchup with Phoenix's athleticism. Phoenix can have a 20 game win streak but until they beat Dallas and San Antonio than they are still 3rd in the west.You beat me to it RonMexico!
2005 team is not the same team as this years team you idiot. We have completely different players around Amare now. More skilled in a lot of areas of the game than before. So, using the 2005 team as a comparison won't work now.
Actually, I believe we are second in the West right now!
And as far as I can see, you're making arguments about the potential of certain players to be effective rebounders, and while that's all well and good, it's not in any way indicative of how they'll actually perform. Rebounding is generally a skill that one has or one doesn't, and it doesn't take long to tell if someone doesn't.
Same thing goes for the mavs. You can't compare them to 2004. This team is getting better every year to this point. Harris and Howard have really developed and Diop was a nice addition.
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