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Funny quote when you believe 'Avg guy' on YouTube over scientists. Seems like you've pretty much made up yourshave an open mind when viewing.
Check this youtube video.
Avg guy presents a wonderful presentation of how climate scientist are manipulating data, and they're conclusions are wrong.
have an open mind when viewing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHjczyA75jU
Funny quote when you believe 'Avg guy' on YouTube over scientists. Seems like you've pretty much made up yourshave an open mind when viewing.
^^like you haven't!
I knew you wouldnt bother to read.
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Geez, sounds kinda like Loose Change.
Amazing that people still doubt global warming.
Even if the jury was out on this subject, isn't it better to play it safe?
It's idiotic.
Is that Tom Arnold?
Can not agree more.
no.
Obviously you didn't view the vid.
His points were that steps taken towards curving CO2 will not cause any significant change, and will be of a worse consequence.
But you know what they say,
you can spell ARGENTINO with the same letters contained in IGNORANTE.
No, it's a minumalist attack and red herring on your part.
Proving once again that gtown has no sense of humor.
And can't spell.
"It's idiotic."
It's idiotic, satanic ideologies of neo-cons, conservatives, evangelicals etc, that have ed up the world for the last 6 years.
except satan doesn't exist.
he never claimed such, and pretty much disclosed the whole situation.
nah they rather believe al gore a true scientist and oil capitalist..
check out gores ties to occidental oil... lol..
Al Gore: The Other Oil Candidate
by Bill Mesler, Special to CorpWatch
August 29th, 2000
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Integrity in the Balance
Bill Mesler reports on Gore's broken promises on a toxic Ohio waste incinerator.
For thousands of years, the Kitanemuk Indians made their home in the Elk Hills of central California. Come February 2001, the last of the 100 burial grounds, holy places and other archaeological sites of the Kitanemuks will be obliterated by the oil drilling of Occidental Petroleum Company. Oxy's plans will "destroy forever the evidence that we once existed on this land," according to Dee Dominguez, a Kitanemuk whose great grandfather was a signatory to the 1851 treaty that surrendered the Elk Hills.
Occidental's planned drilling of the Elk Hills doesn't only threaten the memory of the Kitanemuk.
Environmentalists say a rare species of fox, lizard and the kangaroo rat would also be threatened by Oxy's plans. A lawsuit has been filed under the Endangered Species Act. But none of that has given pause to Occidental or the politician who helped engineer the sale of the drilling rights to the federally-owned Elk Hills. That politician is Al Gore.
Gore recommended that the Elk Hills be sold as part of his 1995 "Reinventing Government" National Performance Review program. Gore-confidant (and former campaign manager) Tony Cohelo served on the board of directors of the private company hired to assess the sale's environmental consequences. The sale was a windfall for Oxy. Within weeks of the announced purchase Occidental stock rose ten
percent.
That was good news for Gore. Despite controversy over Cheney's plans to keep stock options if elected, most Americans don't know that we already have a vice president with oil company stocks. Before the Elk Hills sale, Al Gore controlled between $250,000-$500,000 of Occidental stock (he is executor of a trust that he says goes only to his mother, but will revert to him upon her death). After the sale, Gore began disclosing between $500,000 and $1 million of his significantly more valuable stock.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=468
http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2099971.ece
Disappearing world: Global warming claims tropical island
For the first time, an inhabited island has disappeared beneath rising seas.
Environment Editor Geoffrey Lean reports
Published: 24 December 2006
Rising seas, caused by global warming, have for the first time washed an inhabited island off the face of the Earth. The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started coming true.
As the seas continue to swell, they will swallow whole island nations, from the Maldives to the Marshall Islands, inundate vast areas of countries from Bangladesh to Egypt, and submerge parts of scores of coastal cities.
Eight years ago, as exclusively reported in The Independent on Sunday, the first uninhabited islands - in the Pacific atoll nation of Kiribati - vanished beneath the waves. The people of low-lying islands in Vanuatu, also in the Pacific, have been evacuated as a precaution, but the land still juts above the sea. The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is unprecedented.
It has been officially recorded in a six-year study of the Sunderbans by researchers at Calcutta's Jadavpur University. So remote is the island that the researchers first learned of its submergence, and that of an uninhabited neighbouring island, Suparibhanga, when they saw they had vanished from satellite pictures.
Two-thirds of nearby populated island Ghoramara has also been permanently inundated. Dr Sugata Hazra, director of the university's School of Oceanographic Studies, says "it is only a matter of some years" before it is swallowed up too. Dr Hazra says there are now a dozen "vanishing islands" in India's part of the delta. The area's 400 tigers are also in danger.
Until now the Carteret Islands off Papua New Guinea were expected to be the first populated ones to disappear, in about eight years' time, but Lohachara has beaten them to the dubious distinction.
Human cost of global warming: Rising seas will soon make 70,000 people homeless
Refugees from the vanished Lohachara island and the disappearing Ghoramara island have fled to Sagar, but this island has already lost 7,500 acres of land to the sea. In all, a dozen islands, home to 70,000 people, are in danger of being submerged by the rising seas.
No, I'm vacationing and therefore, not at my computer
So? Other real scientists say it will help.His points were that steps taken towards curving CO2 will not cause any significant change, and will be of a worse consequence.
You calling other people ignorant is hilarious.you can spell ARGENTINO with the same letters contained in IGNORANTE.
The world has been ed up for more than six years. Not everything is the Republican's fault. Grow the up.
Just a little fact for mr. boutons..
In 1999, the U.S. Senate voted 95-0 against the Kyoto Protocol, saying the United States should not ratify it unless China and other rapidly developing countries were also required to reduce greenhouse gases...
dam those democrats... not even one voted for it...
This guy can't stay on point. I'm not going to watch if he keeps talking about DDT and other .
I watched a small portion before his ty presentation got on my nerves. Besides he states he's only going after one theory so whatever.
"against the Kyoto Protocol"
typical right wing "defense" of the Repugs. Not that the Repugs did anything right, but that the Repugs are no worse than the Dems.
Ratifying Kyoto would have shown the USA was serious about atmospheric pollution, and would have put the US on the self-imposed path to emission reduction and more generally on an anti-pollution/conservation path.
To say that it's pointless for the USA to impose emission controls because China, etc can't/won't is pointless and chicken , and really just a sinister, dishonest way to protect energyco profits.
The USA has the clean technology for new coal-fired plants of which 1000 new plants are to be built around the planet soon. The US govt could subsidize the purchase and contstruction of those plants, rather tha letting the cheap dirty plants be built. The Repugs have let the dirty coal plants in the USA escape installing scrubbers to reduce emissions.
The Repug-compromised EPA is being sued by the states right now for failing to enforce EPA regulations, to protect coal company profits and their dirty plants.
yeah china and india aren't part of the earth and don't contribute to global warming..
HONG KONG, China -- A dense blanket of pollution, dubbed the "Asian Brown Cloud," is hovering over South Asia, with scientists warning it could kill millions of people in the region, and pose a global threat.
In the biggest-ever study of the phenomenon, 200 scientists warned that the cloud, estimated to be two miles (three kilometers) thick, is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths a year from respiratory disease.
By slashing the sunlight that reaches the ground by 10 to 15 percent, the choking smog has also altered the region's climate, cooling the ground while heating the atmosphere, scientists said on Monday.
EXTRA INFORMATION
Asia's 'brown cloud': The facts
The potent haze lying over the entire Indian subcontinent -- from Sri Lanka to Afghanistan -- has led to some erratic weather, sparking flooding in Bangladesh, Nepal and northeastern India, but drought in Pakistan and northwestern India.
"There are also global implications, not least because a pollution parcel like this, which stretches three kilometers high, can travel half way round the globe in a week, " U.N. Environment Program chief Klaus Toepfer told a news conference in London on Sunday.
The U.N.'s preliminary report comes three weeks before the Earth Summit in Johannesburg, which opens on August 26, where all eyes will be on how not to overburden the planet.
Global threat
While haze hovers over other parts of the world, including America and Europe, what surprised scientists was just how far the cloud extended, and how much black carbon was in it, according to A P Mitra from India's National Physical Laboratory.
Pollution Asia's brown haze is altering the weather, creating acid rain. A tail of aerosols, ash, soot and other particles, the haze's reach extends far beyond the study zone of the Indian subcontinent, and towards East and Southeast Asia.
While many scientists once thought that only lighter greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide, could travel across the Earth, they now say that aerosol clouds can too.
"Biomass burning" from forest fires, vegetation clearing and fossil fuel was just as much to blame for the shrouding haze as dirty industries from Asia's great cities, the study found.
A large part of the aerosol cloud comes from inefficient cookers, where fuels such as cow dung and kerosene are used to cook food in many parts of Asia, says Mitra.
Acid rain
Using data from ships, planes and satellites to study Asia's haze during the northern winter months of 1995 to 2000, scientists were able to track its journey to pristine parts of the world, such as the Maldives, to see how it affected climate.
They discovered not only that the smog cut sunlight, heating the atmosphere, but also that it created acid rain, a serious threat to crops and trees, as well as contaminating oceans and hurting agriculture.
"It was much larger than we thought," said Mitra. The report suggested the pollution could be cutting India's winter rice harvest by as much as 10 percent.
The report calculated that the cloud -- 80 percent of which was made by people -- could cut rainfall over northwest Pakistan, Afghanistan, western China and western central Asia by up to 40 percent.
While scientists say they still need more scientific data, they suggest the regional and global impact of the haze will intensify over the next 30 years.
Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen -- one of the first scientists to identify the causes of the hole in the ozone layer and also involved in the U.N. report -- said up to two million people in India alone were dying each year from atmospheric pollution.
In the next phase of the project, scientists will collect data from the entire Asian region, over more seasons with more observation sites and refine their techniques.
But because the lifetime of pollutants is short and they can be rained out, scientists are hopeful that if Asians use more efficient ways of burning fuel, such as better stoves, and cleaner sources of energy, time has not run out.
The Associated Press & Reuters contributed to this report.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a.../12/asia.haze/
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