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The "chads" are still hanging in Florida too Dan!
By Andy Lenderman
Journal Politics Writer
About 18,000 provisional ballots remain to be counted around New Mexico, an elections official said. It may be several days before they're processed and still later before they're tallied. And there was still debate Wednesday about whether they will make a difference in the Bush-Kerry race in New Mexico. Many voters might be unfamiliar with provisional ballots, but they could matter in a close race.
Provisional ballots are paper ballots given to voters who show up at the polls but don't have the right kind of required identification or who go to the wrong precinct, for example. The ballots are guaranteed under recently enacted federal and state laws. Before they're counted, election officials must verify that each provisional ballot has been cast by a registered voter, said Ernest Ortega, a spokesman for Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron.
If the voter is registered, the ballot counts, Ortega said.
If not, it doesn't.
One requirement is that provisional ballots must be cast within the voter's county of residence to be valid. And a provisional ballot could be rejected by election officials if the voter failed to sign the outer envelope or signature roster, or did not provide sufficient identification information to elections officials, Ortega said.
New Mexico's 33 county clerks are required to submit their complete vote totals— including provisional and absentee votes— to the Secretary of State's Office by Nov. 12, Ortega said.
State officials are to present their final canvass, or vote count, to the state canvassing board by Nov. 23, Ortega said.
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The "chads" are still hanging in Florida too Dan!
Kerry lost, election is over, who cares about New Mexico.
New Mexicans, I would guess.
But yeah, it's over. Who do we invade next?
id say france, but im sure you and john kerry wouldnt go for that.
I say we give the terrorists hugs and kisses, THEN maybe theyll stop, right Chump? Thats the ONLY way to fight the terrorists, is with kisses and hugs, RIGHT?!?!?!
I'm serious. Anyway, I don't get how France has become this pariah of late. They've always been contrarian assholes who simply like ing with the larger powers of the world to make them feel less impotent. What's new?
Last edited by ChumpDumper; 11-07-2004 at 12:30 PM.
so am i, hug the terrorists, then theyll stop right?
come on, cant we all just GET ALONG COME ON!!
I don't get where you are coming from. I'm all for killing the terrorist -- but what do we think it's actually going to take?
whats it going to take?
kill the terrorists before they kill us, duh.
And what does that mean? How will it be done?
kill the terrorist, kill the frenchman, kill the arab, kill the jew, kill the german, kill the african, kill the chinaman, kill the canadian
America uber alles
You forgot "Kill the Ice"
I vote for more hanging chads...
And less bickering in 2004!
18,000 uncounted votes is a situation to be remedied, not ignored. Regardless of what effect it woudl have on the election (Minimal if any). Everyone deserves to have their vote counted and we should strive for an efficent system.
do you honestly believe that declaring war on france would be in our best interest?
i'm all for doing everything possible to destroy every al qaeda cell and kill every terrorist possible. i'm not in favor of a WWIII scenario in which we're declaring war on european nations.
We're still talking about the election?
If there are 18,000 ballots, wouldn't they be counted? How do you know there are 18,000 if they weren't counted?
Frankly...I think it would be in the world's interest; but, that's just me.
The political ignorance here is overwhelming. The provisional ballots aren't counted till 12 days after the general election. Some will be thrown out, but the majority will be added to the final count and 80% are expected to go to Kerry. Bush's current lead in New Mexico is only 8366.If there are 18,000 ballots, wouldn't they be counted? How do you know there are 18,000 if they weren't counted?
Folks if this happens, this could mean that we are only the provisional ballots in Iowa (Bush's lead is down to 13,216 votes) and a recount in Ohio, once unconscienceable but now very possible, but which Republicans are sure to resist cause of fraud, away from finding that Kerry may have actually won the 2004 Presidential election.
How the heck do you know that if they haven't been counted yet?and 80% are expected to go to Kerry
Because Kori, Michael Moore and George Soros know who they paid to vote.
Historically, 80% of Provisional ballots go to democratic candidates. Governor Richardson is demanding that all the provisional ballots be counted but as well as you can imagine, there are forces trying to discard all the provisional ballots like they convieniently did in Florida last week.
Here are some neat (and accurate) cartograms of the 2004 election, and why I believe the Republican party is at height and has no where to go but down...
I dont get it. (the cartograms)
Oh and by the way Nbadan, every time I see your handle, I keep thinking you are african, then 10 mins later I am like OH YEAH NBA DAN!, this happens to me once every 3 days or so... Oh well, on trivial things I am a bit of an absent minded professor.
Where'd you get the stats on that? I don't recall seeing percentages on provisional ballots in the last few presidential elections. Just curious, do you have a link to actual numbers?Historically, 80% of Provisional ballots go to democratic candidates.
I think you may be talking about absentee ballots anyway, because, if I recall correctly, this is the first election where we are allowing provisional ballots. (I could be wrong though)
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