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    Tim Duncan 34.0
    Tony Parker 33.2
    Manu Ginobili 27.3
    Brent Barry 21.2
    Michael Finley 21.3
    Bruce Bowen 31.7
    Beno Udrih 14.8
    Fabricio Oberto 18.6
    Francisco Elson 18.7
    Matt Bonner 10.7
    Eric Williams 7.1
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    Jackie Butler 7.7

    I don't understand why the starters aren't averaging close to 38-39 minutes. Especially Ginobili. Is he capable of playing starter minutes? The way Pop plays him, he isn't any different than Finley or Barry... Make a move Pop.

    Plus he is rotating 10-11 guys a night. Why? Is he to much of a puss to sit someone?

    He takes Ginobili out with 8 minutes left in the first quarter... WTF?

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    I don't understand why the starters aren't averaging close to 38-39 minutes. Especially Ginobili. Is he capable of playing starter minutes?
    Did you just start watching Spurs basketball? Manu's minutes are always kept under 30 during the season. Who would want the starters averaging 39 mpg in the regular season??

    Now go make your wife some steak.

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    Did you just start watching Spurs basketball? Manu's minutes are always kept under 30 during the season. Who would want the starters averaging 39 mpg in the regular season??

    Now go make your wife some steak.
    I think it would be nice to see all the starters with no more that 30 MPG in the regular season.

    Give everybody a chance to play some significant minutes in the regular season so we'll have 12 real bodies in the playoffs.

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    Only 5 guys can play. What are the other 7 going to do? By the looks of things, the other 7 might get booed off the court.

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    I'm impressed with Sequ's exhaustive research.

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    39 minutes with timeouts every 5, stops every 12, stops every free throw, etc. etc...

    It shouldn't be tough for these guys.

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    I'm impressed with Sequ's exhaustive research.
    Thanks, I watched every game on video and calculated it in Excel for all of you to share.

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    39 minutes with timeouts every 5, stops every 12, stops every free throw, etc. etc...

    It shouldn't be tough for these guys.
    Refer to your spreadsheet and tell me how many players in the league average 39 minutes per game?

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    Refer to your spreadsheet and tell me how many players in the league average 39 minutes per game?
    There are quite a few that average 39+. Most of the starters on elite teams average at least 35, unlike the wussy spurs.

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    Our guys can't win in back-2-backs as it is because they get worn out from that 48 minutes of playing basketball the night before. Heck, Pop doesn't only shorten Manu's minutes but chooses to keep him out of certain b2b games altogether.

    Would someone remind Sequ that the Spurs ain't the youngest team in the league these days.

    People knocked the Pistons coaching last year for playing their starters too long in the regular season, and Sequ is complaining that we're playing our bench and keeping the starters fresh???

    Who cares about the regular season...really.

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    Who cares about the regular season...really.
    Game 7 2006.


    That b2b is just an excuse, all teams go through it... These guys can play 48 minutes, Pop just treats them like little private school girls...

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    Minutes distribution.

    Barry lights up the entire 1st 20 or so games and sits at .724 fg%.
    Findawg was at 29% and sucking to everyone outside of the Findawg Sniffers Club with it's president T_Park.

    So, with those %s Lord Poppy frequently gave equal or even more minutes to Fin. Brilliant.
    GNob went out and Finbrick, not Barry started and went 35+.

    So Barry finally cools off.
    Vs Cleveland he was off. Findawg actually hit 2-3 (one layup) but for Fins to pass 50% had the FSC orgasmic and all of the rest of us happy for him.

    So, Pop pulls Fins (8 game minutes) and leaves Barry in.

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    Good point Fabbs... I think Pop is losing it.

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    During the Cleveland game, Duncan was taken out of the game with 40 seconds left in the third quarter, Spurs up by 8. When he returned with 8 minutes left, momentum, lead and game belonged to Cleveland. Oh and then he kindly put Parker back in at the same time.

    Hold ear up waiting for response...

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    Last night Tim played 44, Parker played 39, Manu played 37 and they still can't compete against a sub .500 team.

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    Pop has as a rule used a lot of players early in the season and usually around the big road trip he will start shortening his rotation. Year after I don't always agree with his rotations, I stil feel that Malick would have been invaluable in 2004, but Pop sat him. I totally agreed when he sat Steve Smith and his 9 million salary in 03, I was miffed at him bringing Manu off the Bench for Hedo, and so on, but the fact is that at 3 different times Pop came up with the right combinations to help the team get 3 rings. Some great coaches haven't even done it once, and some just once.

    I don't think Pop is the smartest coach, but I have always felt that he has more fight in him than anyone on the Spurs team that it's his passion and fire that really drives the Spurs engine.

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    I agree, but back then, he had a Stephen Jackson, a Jaren Jackson, a Kevin Willis, a Big Dawg, Steve Kerr, etc. etc.. now he has beno oberto elson finley bonner No comparison brotha.

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    Last night Tim played 44, Parker played 39, Manu played 37 and they still can't compete against a sub .500 team.

    I like it when you contradict the whole point of your thread.



    Wait. What was your point again?

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    Well only Kerr and Big Dawg had any real game, Willis was way past his prime and in 03 he did bring toughness and leadership. Jaren was a 1 year wonder and SJax was a project when Pop inserted him into the lineup and I still believe that if Manu had not rolled his ankle in Houston a week before Pop would have inserted Manu into the Starting lineup. This team definitly lacks the vet leadership on the bench that the Spurs had in 99, 03. But the starters are much stronger than any that the Spurs have had in the past and I like the play of Bonner, Barry and the Oberto/Elson combo.

    But in 99 the papers were full of fire Pop threads and that team looked the worse of all the le teams, and that team was old and slow but hey got it together and dominated the league and swept through it. Rules changes notwithstanding the Spurs aren't as slow as last years Heat and those guys used the same manhandling techniques that the Spurs, PIstons and Lakers used to get thier les, against the new age wonder Mavs.

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    I like it when you contradict the whole point of your thread.

    Wait. What was your point again?
    They had no choice, every time someone was subbed Minnesota went on a 10 - 0 run.

    No matter how you look at it... Pop coaches, Pop finds the talent, Pop distributes the minutes...

    I think Pop listened to larry brown a little to much this offseason.

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    How on Earth is Jackie Bulter's portion up to 7 minutes of the rotation time. I've only seen the cat play maybe in 3-4 games, and you want to include him as part of the rotation, please. Maybe next season.

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    They had no choice, every time someone was subbed Minnesota went on a 10 - 0 run.

    No matter how you look at it... Pop coaches, Pop finds the talent, Pop distributes the minutes...

    I think Pop listened to larry brown a little to much this offseason.
    So, basically, we need to trade everyone but the big three plus Bowen, pickup a couple of upper 3rd tier NBA starter types to let us go six deep, round out the other 6 roster spots with NBADL guys, and win it all with our starters averaging 36 minutes plus per night.

    Am I catching on?



















    *actually not a bad idea*

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    I think Barry can contribute, but got damn, he needs consistent time. Finley is allowed to shoot 30% and almost take Manu's starting spot. Beno hasn't contributed anything except for the preseason contract extension game. So Pop has to go to Mr. Bonner.

    I'm sorry but every time I see that dude on my TV, I can't stop laughing... He is actually a Spur..

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    Thanks, I watched every game on video and calculated it in Excel for all of you to share.
    can you PM the file to me?

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    can you PM the file to me?
    yeah... it's there.

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