I wish for...
1. Another perimeter shooter
2. Another tough inside physical presence
3. Another athletic swingman/scorer
The Spurs couldn't shoot the ball and played soft. It will happen again. Hopefully not in the playoffs.
The Spurs have some great pieces, but they need another shooter and some toughness. Hopefully they can get it done.
I think the Spurs already have those answers.
Parker needs to hit his outside shots. In the first three regular season games, his outside shot is off. If he's hitting, then Barry, Manu, Bowen and Brown will be enough.1. Another perimeter shooter
Rose and Massenburg need to play more. Horry needs to play less.2. Another tough inside physical presence
Devin Brown needs more minutes.3. Another athletic swingman/scorer
We are the best team in the league.
What more do you want?
When our offense of the first 2 games clicks with what our defense should be capable of, this team will be better than either 99 or 03.
I wish for...
1. World Peace.
2. 100M dollars bank account.
I thought that's what Andie MacDowell wished for in Groundhog Day . . .
No . . . that's what she drank for . . . "to World Peace"
and studied 19th century french poetry
"Pfft, what a big waste of time that was"
I wish for February to begin tomorrow, so we really know what to expect from this team.
UH, this isn't the off season. We're only three games in, calm down. We have everybody we need when Johnson comes off the IR.
Parker will not hit his outside shots....and playoff teams will not be stupid enough to leave Barry when TD is doubled.....it will be upto Manu, Bruce and Dev to spread the floor......
I do agree that more of Malik, Mass and Dev is a VERY good thing. But as said, it's early.
Newsflash: teams make moves during the regular season to improve.UH, this isn't the off season.
I'm not talking solely about the first three games.We're only three games in
Calm down? I didn't know I was being uncalm.calm down.
I'm simply able to identify weaknesses with the team. You don't seem to want to admit that the Spurs have any weaknesses at all.We have everybody we need when Johnson comes off the IR.
The Third will help defend big threes, but he isn't a perimeter shooter. While I feel that he could be the athletic swingman that we need and that Massenburg may provide the needed toughness if he gets minutes, I'm not convinced that the team has enough perimeter shooting.
Name me one pure shooter other than Barry on the Spurs. You can't, because there isn't one.
For all that Manu and Parker bring to the table, they can both get very cold from the outside for long stretches. Neither player is a pure shooter. That's not to say that they aren't great players, but they are not great perimeter shooters.
Answer me this: what is going to stop teams from collapsing on Duncan if the shooters can't make shots? This team needs one more shooter. Barry isn't going to average more than 30 minutes per game, and Bowen, Manu, and Parker are inconsistent from the outside.
I'm willing to admit that the Spurs aren't perfect. They may end up being the best team in the league, but there is always room for improvement.
I'd be curious to hear some concrete suggestions to address those issues. I mean, is your athletic swingman going to be a shooter as well, and if so, how on Earth are you going to find (and get) that guy? Who do you want and who are you willing to move to get such players (understanding the realities of the cap and teams' unwillingness to trade exceptional players for average players)? Those kinds of players don't just stand around on street corners, you know.1. Another perimeter shooter
2. Another tough inside physical presence
3. Another athletic swingman/scorer
I can't see that the Spurs need another outside shooter or another swingman. How many shooters does this team need? Wing-heavy teams don't often win les. The Spurs shot poorly on Sunday, true, but even the best outside shooters have bad shooting nights and whole teams face occasionaly shooting funks like that. Let's not go pushing for wholesale changes. We've seen 3 games and in 2 of the 3, this team has shot well.
From some of what I'm reading, it sounds like some half-expected the Spurs to go undefeated this season. Did you really think they'd go an entire season without dropping a game that should be a walkover? They do this every year. They'll do it again this year.
I'm not asking for wholesale changes. I'm hoping they'll get a little bit tougher in the frontcourt. That might happen if Massenburg plays minutes like he did against Seattle. If he doesn't it's still going to be a problem.
The athletic scoring swingman is a wish that is possibly unrealistic, but the Spurs can still work on something here. The Third will help some. It also would be nice if the Spurs dropped someone like Wilks to take a chance on a young athletic available swingman. Eddie Robinson is a huge risk, but he's out there. Other young athletic swing players are out there.
As far as shooting goes, in my mind, that's the number one need. The Spurs would be better off with an Eric Piatkowski or a Wes Person. Those kinds of players are often available and the Spurs might not have to give up much. It's necessary to have another shooter capable of hitting a couple of shots when Parker and Manu are struggling from the perimeter. It's also useful against a zone.
Two.How many shooters does this team need?
Look, I'm not asking Pop and R.C. to upset the apple cart. But I think they need to think about adding another shooter. I think that we'll see it as a weakness as the season goes on. Play Massenburg or replace Mass or Marks with a tough bruiser who can play some minutes. Take a chance on an athletic young swing player if one becomes available. Give The Third a chance when he gets healthy.
I understand what you're saying but fundamentally disagree with your position. This team HAS to have a third point guard -- a third true point -- because of the fact that both Parker and Udrih are relatively fragile players. Last year demonstrated that need as clearly as could be possible. Wilks isn't a great answer, but he's at least a body who has an understanding of the system and some ability to play the game. Better than scouring the Aussie waiver wires, if you ask me.It also would be nice if the Spurs dropped someone like Wilks to take a chance on a young athletic available swingman. Eddie Robinson is a huge risk, but he's out there. Other young athletic swing players are out there.
As for Eddie Robinson -- I'll never understand the fascination with him. Sure he's 6'8" and athletic, but he's had plenty of opportunities, with different teams and coaches to prove that he can play at the NBA level. Somehow, he's never done anything and was so ineffective that the Chicago Bulls bought him out. They paid money for him to go away. I wouldn't touch Eddie Robinson with a 10 foot pole, and I'm befuddled by those who see anything in this guy as a basketball player.
Better off than what? Better off with those guys than with Brent Barry?The Spurs would be better off with an Eric Piatkowski or a Wes Person.
Well, I don't think Person is likely to be available, since it appears he's going to play a role with Miami. Piatkowski might be available, but if his shooting was such a certainty, why was he unable to get consistent minutes on a good Houston team last season? You'd think, with the offensive troubles the Rockets had last year, that a shooter would have been integral to Van Gundy, but somehow, Piatkowski never really could crack the rotation.Those kinds of players are often available and the Spurs might not have to give up much. It's necessary to have another shooter capable of hitting a couple of shots when Parker and Manu are struggling from the perimeter. It's also useful against a zone.
I agree that shooters are helpful, but here's a question: when Manu and Parker are struggling with their outside shots, are you going to sit them for long stretches in favor of a journeyman shooter? If not -- if you're going to join such a journeyman shooter with Parker and Ginobili during those droughts -- what's the difference between using Barry in that role and using Piatkowski or Person or anyone else in that role? I'd argue that Barry is a substantially better choice than any of those other guys because if he's not hitting shots, he can at least do a number of other things to help your team score. Piatkowski and Person are one-dimensional players who are helpful only when they are making shots.
Piatkowski or Person would just be Steve Smith 2005.
about the lack of a 2nd shooter,
dev has been shooting 3 pointers all offseason for a reason. Pop knows what you know.
A pass first PG. One that actually has more assists than KG.
The reason I said it's not the off season is, because who are you going to find NOW sitting out there that fits YOUR needs. You're going to have to trade someone to get someone. Who are you going to trade, besides the untradable Malik.
The two people you mention, Wesley and Piat make more than the min. So who are you going to trade, that the other team would take?????????
Yes I agree Johnson doesn't have an outside shot, but neither does E. Robinson, so what's the difference??????
If your not basing it on three games, then what are you comparing it too? You're not being calm by saying we need at least two new players after three games, I call that uncalm.
Every team has weakness, I can admit anything. I'm just not going to say the need changes after three games. They have all they need on they're current roster.
A tall athletic swingman to hold Lint's place is all we need.
Want one that can score? John Wallace.
Want one that can defend? Donnell Harvey.
Want one that can do a little of both? Terence Morris.
Waive Wilks and get one of these guys.
As soft as we played, we would've caught and passed the Sonics had we been able to get a hand in Lewis/Radman's faces.
If he could do that at a level sufficient to help a team win NBA games, why's he not working right now? In a league full of teams that are starving for points, you'd think a "scorer" like John Wallace would have no problems finding a job.Want one that can score? John Wallace.
If he could do that at a level sufficient to help a team win NBA games, why's he not working right now? it must have been his defensive prowess that caused him to play a total of 15 minutes in the preseason with the Hawks. (are we seriously thinking that camp castoffs from the Atlanta Hawks are going to make a difference for the Spurs?)Want one that can defend? Donnell Harvey.
If he could do that at a level sufficient to help a team win NBA games, why's he not working right now? I was blown away by Morris' ability to hit 1 of every 4 shots he took this preseason with the Clippers. And his career 3.7 ppg is amazing. Move over Bruce Bowen, Devin Brown, Brent Barry, Manu Ginobili, Romain Sato. We've found an answer on the wing.Want one that can do a little of both? Terence Morris.
Brilliant -- when Tony or Beno goes down, we'll just shift one of our athletic wings to the point full-time. Maybe Sato? or perhaps one of the previously mentioned guys.Waive Wilks and get one of these guys.
Perhaps Barry.
You missed the entire point that these guys are just placeholders for Linton.
Why was Wilks available in the first place? According to you, we should never signed him at all, seeing as he was out of work and all....
What is our need right now?
Spurs should just wait for Linton. He should be ready within a month. Even if it takes a whole month, a couple of November losses just build character.
That's not at all what I said. My point is that the guys that you mention are not better than any of the wings on this roster. Wilks, on the other hand, is better than Marque Perry, the third point guard he replaced. If a wing who is better than what we have comes available, I'd be all for the acquisition. But right now, the guys who are out there aren't better than the status quo -- except in the minds of some armchair GM's who are convinced that they see ability where NBA GM's do not.Why was Wilks available in the first place? According to you, we should never signed him at all, seeing as he was out of work and all....
By the way, Pop has already said that he's got no intention of relying on Barry playing long minutes at the point. If Tony and/or Beno goes down, you're going to see plenty of Wilks or whomever the Spurs bring in to replace him.
Perhaps a bit more time and a little less complacency. Those are certainly things that John Wallace, Terance Morris, Donnell Harvey, or Eddie Robinson will immediately remedy.What is our need right now?
None of the wings on the active roster can guard 6'10" + players. This is a fact.My point is that the guys that you mention are not better than any of the wings on this roster.I called the Wilks signing, so what do I know. It's a suggestion, just like saying Duncan shouldn't be such a pussy. This is the stuff message boards are made of.Wilks, on the other hand, is better than Marque Perry, the third point guard he replaced. If a wing who is better than what we have comes available, I'd be all for the acquisition. But right now, the guys who are out there aren't better than the status quo -- except in the minds of some armchair GM's who are convinced that they see ability where NBA GM's do not.Not if they suck. We signed Ward last year and he didn't play because he sucked. You play whoever works.By the way, Pop has already said that he's got no intention of relying on Barry playing long minutes at the point. If Tony and/or Beno goes down, you're going to see plenty of Wilks or whomever the Spurs bring in to replace him.
Time for Lint yes. But try as they might, our other swingmen won't grow six inches anytime soon.Perhaps a bit more time and a little less complacency.
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