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I wouldn't mind seeing the Spurs take a chance on a kid like this, but you'd have to cut JV to make room. If it doesn't pan out you're pretty much left with beno as the only back up point guard - a fate I don't even wish on the Mavs
This has been talked about in other threads, but with the declining play of the backup point guards, I believe that it deserves it's own thread. I watched one of his games on NBAtv and was impressed.
Will Conroy is a 6-foot-2, 195 pound point guard who is tearing up the NBDL. Last six games he's averaging 20 points, 13.3 assists and 5.9 rebounds, while shooting 52.2% from the field.
The scouting report on him in college was he was a good playmaker with limited offensive ability, mostly due to him being out of shape and too slow. As a senior, he didn't even average 10 points a game at Washington.
But since coming out of school, he's gotten in much better shape and has worked on his shot. He's now a good shooter from beyond the arc and from the line.
The question marks regarding him are his defense and his experience. It's tough to tell how well he could guard on the NBA level since most of his career he was overweight. He plays pretty well against NBDL players, but that's a much lower level. His experience is a question because he has no NBA experience and it could be asking a lot of him to come in and run a championship contender.
Conroy is going to be called up to the NBA soon. It's just a matter of which NBA team makes the call first. I don't think he lasts another couple weeks without an NBA team calling him up for a 10-day tryout.
The question is whether that should be the Spurs. Do you trust Beno Udrih or Jacque Vaughn enough to hope and pray they can fill the void, or do you make a radical move and bring in an NBDL player? And if you do, who do you cut to make room?
I wouldn't mind seeing the Spurs take a chance on a kid like this, but you'd have to cut JV to make room. If it doesn't pan out you're pretty much left with beno as the only back up point guard - a fate I don't even wish on the Mavs
I don't think you do. As much as we hate him, Beno would probably put up nice stats in the NBDL and we can't release Vaughn, since he has experience.
If only Buford could find that trigger for the Maggette deal, we could bring in Conroy to replace our Slovenian.
*whisper* or they could cut James White
That's a very bad idea. Why?
They should only if they do a 2 for 1 trade (for instance beno+barry for maggette)
Yeah that was a joke. I just wanted a reaction from the jockers of White who start a new James White thread every few days.
I think they should only get Conroy if they trade Beno or Vaughn.
Okay. ... I thought you had knowledge we didn't have. I've been very happy with White's production in the NBDL. I don't expect anything from him for a while, but I'm confident he can be a rotation guy in the future.Yeah that was a joke. I just wanted a reaction from the jockers of White who start a new James White thread every few days.
I think they should only get Conroy if they trade Beno or Vaughn.
Agreed on Conroy. I hope they can make a trade soon and nab Conroy. But chances are > 0%.
I agree with this. I would only want to go into the postseason with one question mark at that backup point spot, not two. Vaughn isn't spectacular, but he's reliably unspectacular.If only Buford could find that trigger for the Maggette deal, we could bring in Conroy to replace our Slovenian.
jacque vaughn sucks, so does beno, you aren't losing anything by letting both of these stiffs go and signing greg sutton.
I don't think he would be any better than Jacque Vaughn on offense in this league, and he's probably far worse on defense.
Last edited by Bob Lanier; 01-12-2007 at 12:53 AM.
If Beno is traded, yes. Conroy is maybe better than Vaughn and if he is struggle, Vaughn can be back the backup PG. Spurs can too work with Conroy to have a good backup PG for next year.
If Vaughn is traded, no. I don't want to have no reliable backup PG : Beno isn't reliable, he becomes a laibility sometimes and Conroy will be a rookie. Spurs need to have a solid 3rd string PG if their backup PG isn't reliable (like Beno or Conroy). If Vaughn is traded, I rather sign a vet like Randy Livingston.
Who's trading Jacque Vaughn?
Should they? Yes most definately.
Will they? Not a chance in .
Vaugh won't be traded for himself but he can be a part of a package.
this are quite impressive numbers Conroy gets.
but can somebody answer me this:
he is averaging 47.2 minutes per game.
why is this. don't they have a bench? many injuries?
reports don't indicate that he is a wonder of endurance.
It's a bug on dleague website.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfil...ame_stats.html
He hasn't played 186 min in his first game (he has played 36 min).
He hasn't too played 10 min in Dec. 16th but 40 min.
All in all, they have add 120 min to his playtime. That is to say, around 7 min per game on 18 games so he played 40 mpg. It's still a lot but it's not crazy.
Last edited by Bruno; 01-12-2007 at 06:59 AM. Reason: typo :(
Actually the Spurs don't have to cut either Vaughn or Beno. I think they should continue to explore trade options with Williams' expiring contract, but if nothing is promising, he should be cut to make room for this kid.
The Spurs could then play Beno off the ball more when the spurs go small and match up with the Nash/Barbosa, Harris/Terry type lineups.
Having said that...I doubt it's gonna happen.
Theres no way hes worse than Beno. Sign anyone please!!!!!
I don't see the Spurs ever doing it. I realize that wasn't the question, but...
Conroy hasn't played a minute of NBA ball, as far as I know. We don't know how he'll handle NBA pressure and will need a significant period of adjustment even if he is any good. We dislike Udrih, but with him we know what we have and, yes, Beno Udrih is a legitimate NBA player.
Luke Jackson was ripping up the NBDL. Randy Livingston is ripping up the NBDL. That stuff doesn't translate very well. Jackson can't get off the bench in LAC.
Waive Beno and sign him. it.. just do it... Beno sucks and ain't never gettin better.
Do us favor and stop spouting nonsense. What would we do with 4 point guards and yet neglect what is so clear? - Bruce can't guard physical small forwards like Melo, Lebron, Bonzi, Howard ... they just eat Bruce for snacks and crap on entire Suprs. Not that Bruce can guard small faster players these days. Look at what he did against AI and Boykins... AI broke out of his slump on Bruce's vaunted defense. One thing I want to see is at least try out Williams on those players. At least once. I don't see how Williams can do any worse than Bruce.
I'm sorry, who are you?
AI broke out of a slump? Give me a break. Last I checked, Bruce was still pestering defenders like crazy and doing what he always does. Secondly, Eric Williams has barely played this year, and though Pop initially thought he could be a regular contributor, it looks more and more like he's just an "expiring contract" to the org. But go ahead, recommend starting him in place of Bruce Bowen.
A back-up point guard is just as big an issue as a long three or the rebounding woes. If Beno isn't the answer and the Spurs can't get rid of him, why not put him in a position to do what he's best at...shoot the ball, and bring in a serious replacement? I'm not saying the Conroy kid is it, but it's a thought. The ONLY risk is giving up Williams' expiring contract too early when it could be valuable around the trade deadline, not some hope that a 32yr old guy playing garbage minutes is going to be the answer the Spurs have been looking for.
Is that "nonsense" starting make sense now?
I don't thing the ownership will tolerate waiving a guaranteed contract with us so near the Lux Tax, therefore, I agree with Mr. Body that a trade that opens a roster spot would be neccessary (2 for 1, or 3 for 2, ...).
The other thing that I think is to wait. While Conroy looks decent, it is likely Steve Francis will be bought out. Francis vs. Conroy is a no-brainer in terms of talent and physical ability. Francis's at ude might be a problem, but the same was said of Big Dog - being on an actual contender tends to help. Also, an owner willing to pay millions of dollars simply to get you off their team tends to impact a players at ude (at least temporarily). If I was in the Spurs FO, I would talk to NY, inquire about the buy-out negotiations and ask for permission to interview Francis...
Will Conroy would kick ass in the Spurs.
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