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And the Hawks would demand one of the big 3 for him, which makes it a non-starter, unfortunately.
Don't you think he would be an ideal small forward can defend block rebound and take good shots in a small ball line-up would be great but also in SF with manu SG vs the mavs it coul make terry a defensive liability and force the mavs to adapt their line-up to ours for once...lol
I read somewhere spurs are exploring this option among others but what could it take to get him? if i'm the hawks i keep him no matter what but GM can often make some strange things..
And the Hawks would demand one of the big 3 for him, which makes it a non-starter, unfortunately.
Chilly would be awesome but right now IMO he's their second best player behind Joe Johnson. They have a glut of SFs but Childress is too expensive for us.
Maybe the Cavs will send us Lebron for Beno and a 2nd rounder. That would be sweet too.
Dream on.
Stop being sarcastic i just wrote a thought i didn't write he will come here for our crap as you put it just how sweet it would be
Some of you guys need to really try to read the whole thoughts and understand it in his specificity before reacting harschly and not always reduce it to the dreamers that need to be bashed by the realist ( frustrate?) It's just a kind of respect for yourself and the other that ups the level of a board i think..
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Don't worry about it. You'll grow some thick skin, especially around here. Childress is one of my favorite players (and own him in fantasy league), but he's out of our range. If Beno and Butler showed any promise at all to become full-time starters, I could see a package because the Hawks need a PG and size. But we don't have those good prospects.
I prefer to begin by saying i absolutely Don't mean to say beno will get us lebron or kg or oden....
But here we really see beno as a very poor player ( me the first) But is it the case of other GM? this summer and one month ago beno seem to be viewed as a solid back_up some teams called for him and clippers doesn'( seem to despise him now his last outing didn't helped his cause but yet maybe they see some potential that us ceases to see
I mean we often underestimate ( or overestimate) the values of our players and other teams often has trouble to esteem the true values of a plyer ( see isiah thomas) It is one of the reason why it is so difficul to predict the trades i think
Too bad Butler will certainly not play this year with hollinger on espn we could have maximized his trade value
As much as the Hawks FO and especially Woodson love J-Child, the ownership situation makes nearly anything possible. If the ownership battle in court brings control back to Belkin, then Knight, Woodson, and every player are in jeopardy of being shipped out of town.
If the ownership situation stabilizes though, the Hawks will do their best to make Childress, Smith, and Marvin Williams work.
My thought is that none of them will go anywhere soon.
Would love to get a hold of Chilly. He would be a very good player in this system for a long time to come. Don't think it's possible though.
It was probably here in some fantasy trade post.I read somewhere spurs are exploring this option
Possible but it could also be on a french article some times ago But that's not really the main question lol
I honestly can't think of a way the Spurs could get Childress unless they packaged something like Beno, Scola and two first round picks.
Yeah, it was probably me.
I would do that trade but still not if i'm the hawks lol
Well, the Hawks did give up on Diaw awfully early. With their glut of small forwards who will eventually be demanding contracts, something could happen down the line, maybe in a sign and trade.
I think some posters here underestimate what we can offer. We do have some solid young talent to offer (Scola, Udrih, Mahinmi) in combination with veterans with expiring contracts (Williams, Horry, Barry, Finley). Look at what Philly took back for Iverson and you gotta think anything could happen in the right situation.
Josh Smith would be a better pickup. The dunk contest isn't everything, in fact, it's basically nothing. Smith is a defensive minded combo forward shot blocker.
Smith and Childress are both FA's this next summer, and the owner is a ing tightwad, which means he will make them ty extension offers, and they will play year 4, and be RFAs again in 2008. He's the er that didn't want to do the Joe Johnson deal, and he's back in the saddle again. He won't pay them both, and Childress is the better draw.
i hate his fro. haha.
if thats all it took...
make that happen.
No kidding. Unfortunately, he must be using sarcasm.
Billy Knight, Hawks GM, is in love with every pick he's made and unless those individuals show little to no return (Diaw in his first two years), he's going to stick with them. Down the line, 2 or 3 years, the ownership and/or GM situation may have changed, so you might be right about giving one up.
I will tell you that the one SF Hawks fans and FO are least enamored with of the three is their "should've been chris paul" pick, Marvin Williams. They love J-Child for his scrappy play, shooting and. And they love Smith because of his shot-blocking and highlight reel plays. Don't get me wrong, they still love Williams, but I think if push came to shove, they'd trade him to get back a legit PG.
As far as the prospects, you overvalue more than this forum undervalues them. I've said it a couple times before, but other GM's don't seem to pay attention to other teams' overseas talent, especially during the regular season. Scola has been a top 5 player in Europe for a while, but the Spurs have been unsuccessful in even using his rights to trade up a few spots. Until the Spurs bring their prospects from overseas, they won't have high value because the other GM's won't see them on a nightly basis.
you are right. so many people just look at the Hawks roster and say: "oh they have stockpiled SFs, they will be happy to get rid of one or two of them, even if they get less value in return". that is completly wrong.I will tell you that the one SF Hawks fans and FO are least enamored with of the three is their "should've been chris paul" pick, Marvin Williams. They love J-Child for his scrappy play, shooting and
first of all:
Hawks are not in a hurry. they are not a PO team and they won't be one next season, no matter waht move they do. (unless they somehow get KG or a compareable player, which I don't call realstic right now)
they can wait at least till deadline 2008 to decide who one of the three mentioned SFs they want to keep. they likely won't resign all three, but as lang as all three are on rookie contracts, they can be patient.
summer 2008 is their crucial moment.
then they will have tons of cap-space and maybe even a Greg Oden to build around.
they also won't trade away for example Marvin (who shows nice improvement this year and still is only 20) this year and risk, that he breaks out somewhere else and maybe finally even ends up as the best player of the 2005 class. (not likely, but also not impossible).
or who knows, maybe they get the no.2 pick 2007 and pick Kevin Durant, even if he would be another player with the same qualities they already have. but even a team with already 15 SF/PFs wouldn't pass on Durant. they would pick him and THEN they would trade away Williams or Smith or Childress.
overall: as long as the Hornets don't offer Paul straight for Marvin Williams or Smith or Childress, the Haws will not trade any player out of their young core (this also includes Pachulia, Sheldon Williams)
time is on their side and they have the advatage, that the pressure on the franchise isn't as big as in LA or NY.
More likely he's the er who knew if the Hawks held out they could have gotten Smith without giving up Diaw plus two lottery picks. btw that second lottery pick is likley to parlay the Suns into a top five draft pick in an extremely strong draft.
SS does one thing, and one thing only. He shoots the long ball. Last time I checked, his .330 would place him 8th on the Spurs. His .372 FG% is nothing to write home about, either, and his rebounds and assists are negligable. There's a reason he's on the block.
sheldon williams and childress make it happen
Diaw wasn't at the time, and Phoenix held matching rights, so they were dictating terms. Even a top 5 player may not turn out to be the quality of JJ, so it hasn't turned out to be too bad for ATL.
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